The (pretty much) Official CW Lineup.
Connections here are Veronica Mars, Smallville, Supernatural, and Gilmore Girls. Sadly, no new Joss shows.
VM: Joss of course
SV: James Marsters
SN: Amy Acker was in an episode
GG: Rebecca Rand Kirshner
May 18 2006
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Gordon Comstock | May 18, 10:30 CET
Danny Strong plays a recurring character on the Gilmore Girls and Jane Espenson was a writer and producer of the show last seaon (I think).
You forgot Charisma is recurring on VM and Alyson has had a few guest stints as well at least 1 a season.
[ edited by RavenU on 2006-05-18 17:36 ]
RavenU | May 18, 10:35 CET
BlindHawkeyes | May 18, 10:35 CET
El Diablo Robotico | May 18, 10:41 CET
Resolute | May 18, 10:47 CET
Really glad about Supernatural though. Much more my style and getting better by the episode.
As for Smallville and Gilmore Girls ... meh! I've tried Smallville to see what James is up to in his new role but apart from James himself the show has absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Gilmore Girls, the little I've seen of it, way too down to earth for me. Even the name sounds dull.
I'm a little dismayed to see no mention of Invasion, a show that was rumoured to possibly be moving to the CW if ABC didn't renew it. Doesn't seem likely now. A real pity because Invasion was far and away the best new series this season.
The Arcane | May 18, 10:50 CET
JusticeDemon | May 18, 10:52 CET
And to everyone who has seen SOME of Veronica and isn't super impressed yet....trust me... I felt the same way you did until I saw all of the first season. And oh my god...after seeing ALL and I mean every single episodes of both seasons......to quote Joss. "Best. Show. Ever."
Dolphin Tamer | May 18, 11:08 CET
pat32082 | May 18, 11:11 CET
Rogue Slayer | May 18, 11:22 CET
Calledon | May 18, 11:24 CET
xander fan | May 18, 11:28 CET
GryffindorWhedonesque house.Simon | May 18, 12:12 CET
Supernatural is kind-of fun, and the overall quality got better as it went along, even if I didn't love the two-part finale.
Smallville just had one of it's best years and is starting to feel more like Superman as of late.
Unfortunately, I still haven't watched all of the Gilmore Girls (I caught the first season on DVD... and it was fun enough.) But this is good new for the fans (Even if ASP is leaving, and the last seasons was supposedly one of the weakest.)
On the Invasion front, I thought the first half of this season was slow, drawn out and badly plotted. However, when it came back in January the show got a lot better, and by now has become must-watch TV. Too bad about that cancellation.
[ edited by rabid on 2006-05-18 19:29 ]
rabid | May 18, 12:27 CET
Will Marti Noxon still be supervising producer for Prison Break anymore? She has that show on ABC now.
Pastor Of Muppets | May 18, 12:28 CET
And a shame that Invasion doesn't seem to be going anywhere. I definitely agree that it is one of the best new drama series. I think Lost and Desperate Housewives were two really strong series of the previous season, and have continued to impress, but Invasion was one of the only shows in their wake to do something similarly original rather than do what a lot of other shows have done, and simply try to do copy elements of the successful shows.
I just love that it has quite a slow, tense pace, rather than frantically throwing elements of plot all over the place. Which isn't to say that there haven't been revelations and great story developments, but the fact that it isn't quite so frantic means that its a little more believable and it allows the characters to develop more, rather than only service the plot. I can't wait to see what direction it goes in, and its a shame that it hasn't been performing too well.
It really is the kind of show that I can see continuing for a long time, whereas some shows just move too fast and become too repetitive or increasingly unrealistic (take The OC for example) whereas something like Invasion or Lost could go on for some time. And I'd imagine that it would probably be quite good at reinventing itself, I only have a few episodes left in the first season to see, but thus far the alien invasion is still pretty much under wraps, and I'd imagine it could change rather drastically whenever the truth is fully public and the "hybrids" decide to wage war on the humans.
Although I'm not entirely sure of what the situation as I don't live in the US, but from what I can gather, it has finished its first season and will probably not be getting renewed?
Razor | May 18, 12:32 CET
Simon | May 18, 12:36 CET
pat32082 | May 18, 12:38 CET
Simon, the fact that so much of Invasion had to be shot outdoors on location probably didn't help keep the costs down, so I have no doubt that it was not an especially cheap show to make. Given another season I think it would have been able to turn things around though, ratings wise.
The Arcane | May 18, 12:40 CET
gossi | May 18, 12:53 CET
m'cookies actual | May 18, 12:56 CET
Ya, I've heard that rumor before about another show...ahem.
Harmalicious | May 18, 12:59 CET
Daburcor | May 18, 13:20 CET
You heard that Joey rumour too?
Daburcor - I don't think anyone here thought there would be a new Joss show on The CW. Just that if the circumstances were different, it would have been nice if it had happened. Plus we could have called the network The JW instead of The CW and designed a better logo too.
The only cancelled show I'll miss from this season will be Threshold. I really enjoyed it.
Simon | May 18, 13:37 CET
AnotherFireflyfan | May 18, 13:41 CET
I wish I was kidding.
gossi | May 18, 14:00 CET
re: Invasion. I imagine it turned some people off precisely because it was regarded as a Lost clone. Lost was seen as fresh and original. I'm not saying Invasion wasn't (I didn't watch), I'm just talking about perception. Context, timing, make a big difference.
jam2 | May 18, 14:02 CET
AnotherFireflyfan | May 18, 20:41 CET
It did but at the last minute,the incoming CW brass reversed the decision and brought it back.
Buffyfantic | May 18, 14:03 CET
gossi | May 18, 14:07 CET
bravegal | May 18, 14:20 CET
But good for VM. At least one of my favorites got picked up.
almostbrilliant | May 18, 15:11 CET
Simon | May 18, 15:19 CET
I'm glad they kept Veronica Mars on, though. It's the one currently-in-production show left on tv that I look forward to.
Emma Frost | May 18, 15:48 CET
dreamlogic | May 18, 16:09 CET
I can't believe Invasion is cancelled, it's one of my favorite shows. I guess it had an okay ending and gave us some closure though. 7th Heaven really needs to die, such a stupid show.
SeReNiTy_88 | May 18, 16:45 CET
I'm actually hoping GG will get better without the Palladinos after these past couple of seasons.
hacksaway | May 18, 17:10 CET
riaspark17 | May 18, 17:23 CET
ETA: look for James Marsters in the video!
[ edited by jam2 on 2006-05-19 00:32 ]
jam2 | May 18, 17:31 CET
dreamlogic | May 18, 17:42 CET
Simon | May 18, 18:06 CET
I'm very sad to see the show go, which dampens the pleasure of getting more VM.
GVH | May 18, 18:37 CET
And why repeats of Top Model at 9 PM Sunday? Are they afraid, not of Desparate Housewives or Cold Case, but Family Guy and American Dad? They should start the sitcom lineup at 8 eastern, not seven, and have 7th Heaven repeats at 7.
[ edited by impalergeneral on 2006-05-19 01:58 ]
impalergeneral | May 18, 18:46 CET
http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800002018#comments
And here we were directing all of our anger at One Tree Hill. Turns out it was 7th Heaven's
last-minute reprieve that chopped down our precious Everwood! Shortly before CW's inaugural upfront presentation today, a well-placed source told me that Everwood was originally slated to inherit 7th Heaven's Mondays/8 pm timeslot, leading into the new drama Runaway. But then the ratings came in for Heaven's "series" finale, and Ostroff ordered an 11th season. All of this was essentially confirmed by Ostroff herself when we went toe-to-toe earlier today at Madison Square Garden. Below is our brief Q&A:
Ausiello: There are a lot of angry Everwood fans out there. They just don't understand why it's the only "bubble" show not returning.
Ostroff: Everwood was honestly the toughest decision. It really was. We knew we wanted to make room on the schedule for at least one new drama... And when you look at the shows that we're bringing back and what went with what, really, Everwood was the hardest show to fit into the configuration. It was really, really hard because the fans are really devoted.
Ausiello: One of the theories going around is that the moment you decided to bring 7th Heaven back, Everwood died.
Ostroff: (Crickets) It was, you know... It really came down to those two shows. It was such a tough call. Look, we're launching a new network, we wanted to have the best shot we could. Not only for the new network, but also for Runaway, which is a family drama.
Ausiello: Did you ever think about keeping both 7th Heaven and Everwood? They have a pretty good thing going on Monday night.
Ostroff: The thing is, Everwood couldn't really start the night. We looked at the ratings for Everwood, and leading off the night...
Ausiello: No, I'm talking about leaving Everwood where it is at 9 pm after 7th Heaven.
Ostroff: We wanted to put a new show on the air and Runaway is a really good show. We couldn't have the whole schedule of returning shows.
Ausiello: What about giving Everwood a 13-episode commitment? That way, if Runaway tanks, Everwood could be on deck to fill in.
Ostroff: (Sigh) We wanted to try something new.
Ausiello: I hear the decision to renew Heaven was made after the ratings for the finale came in. True?
Ostroff: It [drew] over 7 million people. It's hard to ignore that.
You know what else is hard to ignore? Five million pissed off Everwood fans.
Posted by: Michael Ausiello 05/18/2006 8:01 PM
What's strange,and it was pointed out in the comments section at T.V. Guide,is that Everwood has a CW page on the new official CW site.
http://cwtv.com/cw-everwood.html
Also,if anybody wants to take a look at the Aquaman series that The CW passed on,here is a promo for it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pv7YlUiI1-w
[ edited by Buffyfantic on 2006-05-19 03:58 ]
Buffyfantic | May 18, 20:57 CET
jam2 | May 18, 21:22 CET
SeReNiTy_88 | May 18, 21:37 CET
dreamlogic | May 18, 23:44 CET
Also, despite it's frequent (and sadly, many) flaws, i'm excited that Smallville's back, firstly because they did a decent enough cliffhanger in 5x22 to make me want more. Secondly, because i want to see more of James. Every moment he's on screen it's like i'm watching a show of much greater quality.
Ryan-RB | May 18, 23:48 CET
billz | May 19, 01:09 CET
GVH | May 19, 03:52 CET
Aquaman/Mercy Reef trailer
Discussion/insight into trailer plus screenshots at Comic Book Resources
Simon | May 19, 04:43 CET
Bring on season 2 of Supernatural and season 3 of Veronica Mars. A real pity that they didn't complete the troika of good decisions and pick up Invasion when they had the chance. It could have been a massive hit for them.
D-Monik | May 19, 07:10 CET
Smallville's testing my patience a bit recently. I think they'd be better cutting their losses, finishing next year and just going hell for leather towards the big flapping cape at the end of season 6. I really thought we might see him do something with a bit of scale in the season 5 finale but, nope, it comes back to a one-on-one confrontation, as per usual, though it wasn't a bad episode and the mythology nods were cool (i'm just keen to see Clark stop reacting and start acting, he's a 'big boy' now, time to put the 'blue' and 'scout' into that phrase and have at it).
(and a huge yay to the Veronica Mars continuation, BTW)
Saje | May 19, 07:21 CET
even though it was actually the schmaltz at 7th heaven that did Everwood in.
bravegal | May 19, 12:08 CET
chris1010 | May 19, 16:50 CET
bravegal | May 19, 19:04 CET
chris1010 | May 20, 05:53 CET
But... 7th Heaven??? :-O silly CW...
AnotherFireflyfan | May 21, 13:17 CET
Razor | May 22, 15:06 CET