"Buffy: Vampires are creeps. Giles: Yes, that's why one slays them."
September 12
2006
Five years on.
A short post from Jane Espenson about working on Buffy at the time of the attacks of 9/11.
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It was only when I saw the now iconic images of completely dust covered streets with people walking through them that I realised it was going to be an event which would shape the next 30 or so years - for better or for worse.
A lot of people say it was the day 'world saw evil'. Or at least, that's what the World Trade Centre trailer says. I disagree - the world has seen evil through it's history. That was the first time I've geninuely felt detached from the human race for a period, though. I had no idea how to relate or react to anything to do with it. I still don't.
RIP those who died on September 11th, 2001.
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gossi | September 12, 03:10 CET
Did a number of people die on the 9th of September? Like, on a 9/11 scale?
I'm confused.
Anyway, I was a Sophomore in High School five years ago. It was during my History class -- it's odd that I just now realized the irony of being in History class while real history was being made -- that the principal came over the intercom and announced that the twin towers had been hit. I didn't think that it was an attack at first. I can't even remember what I thought it was, but it didn't take long until we knew for sure.
R.I.P.
Hoban Washburne | September 12, 03:24 CET
So, being British, I then decided it was 9th September. Well, being an idiot probably had more to do with it than my nationality, but we'll let that slide.
gossi | September 12, 03:41 CET
OzLady | September 12, 04:32 CET
fortunateizzi | September 12, 04:34 CET
At first we heard it was a small plane--and thought OMG.
Then came news that a plane then a second plane out of Logan had been hijacked--again OMG, what is going on.
Then a second plane hit the second tower.
I knew folks flying to Ca that day=were they on those planes? -
and I had so many friends in the NY area--most from on line clubs (and it took days for us to find which ones had made it home and which ones did not).
We gathered in a conference room and watched the first tower collapse and the fact that the pentagon had also been hit and there was a plance they could not contact-speculation it would have to be shot down.
We were sent home--and I am sure we were all glued to TV that whole day and our computers trying to get in touch with everyone we knew.
It was a scary sad day.
rivergirl | September 12, 04:42 CET
I shouted to everybody on my floor that it wasn't an accident, that it was an attack...the next few hours were bizarre...all the rumors of what had happened in DC (sadly, the Pentagon one was true), and the total lack of certitude that there weren't 5, 10, 50 more similar attacks on the way...as a commuications professional, I was on IBM's Crisis Management Team...fortunatley, not too much to manage...although we did have the horrible news that a colleague, a middle-aged newlywed, and her new husband, died in the Pentagon crash (her memorial service the following week was so very painful). The team conferred in a special conference room, and I was amazed at the professionalism and sensitivity of everybody. Extremely impressive.
I remember walking outside, the incredibly beautiful blue sky, with no planes at all, and then occasionally some menacing helicopters, thinking, "what the hell is going on...?
I put a flag out on our bedroom window sill and a halogen lamp above it overnight...maybe that seems silly, but it had meaning for us then.
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Chris inVirginia | September 12, 05:07 CET
I went to the break room to find out more news on the TV there and couldn't believe my eyes.
Reddygirl | September 12, 05:23 CET
KatieB | September 12, 05:24 CET
Chris inVirginia | September 12, 05:40 CET
I don’t know why I woke up. Maybe someone in my apartment building shouted when the first tower collapsed, but by the time I was actually conscious, the building was totally silent. *shrug* I know what I believe, and that’s not it. My deepest sympathies go to those who lost loved ones or who had to live through the terror of New York that day and the unremitting hardship of the months that followed in NYC.
cabri | September 12, 05:59 CET
Same here, Chris in Virginia. I live in the Eastern Panhandle of WV. The other half worked at the Pentagon, so that was a day straight out of Hell for me (the phones were f$#%d for hours so I had no idea if he was ok until the afternoon). He was fine, but he knew some of the people that died. We spent the next several days looking up in fear each time we'd hear a plane/chopper when there wasn't supposed to be anything flying.
I think Jane summed it up well. Trying to put something like this into perspective, into something you can comprehend, is pretty much impossible. All I can say is that I FEEL for people in countries where terrorism is the norm instead of the exception it is here.
Grace | September 12, 06:00 CET
I knew that my younger sister was flying American out of Logan in Boston that a.m. and freaked out -- no one really knew anything at that point. I reached my parents' home back east to hear that she'd called, her flight was mysteriously grounded on the runway in Boston and they sent everyone home.
Later that day, my sick-at-the-time father got out of bed for the first time in days, walked downstairs to the TV, watched the Towers fall again and again and just as suddenly went back up to bed. Several hours later, my family called an ambulance when my Dad became critically ill. The Towers kept falling over and over that day and they reflected externally the chaos and pain I felt as I realized I was losing my father.
He died a few days later in hospital, and I think he gave up on 9/11, watching the Towers falling repeatedly, grieving in his heart about a horror that he'd anticipated and spoken about for years, and unwilling to fight to recover to live in that world.
We flew over NYC the next day and everyone was so friendly and scared on the plane and the pilot was muy macho, which was comforting, and there were clouds of smoke over the lower end of Manhattan. Every airport we were in had alarms and evacuations and nothing felt safe. His memorial was, for me, about him and 9/11 and my own loss, all mixed up together.
I will always associate that time with the loss of my father and the loss of safety and the personal loss of a kind of (remnant) innocence. RIP for the dead of 9/11, their families, and my father, and all the people that have died worldwide as a result of those brutal events.
For once, I have no quote -- except maybe Auden's "We must love one another or die."
(I'm so glad Jane posted [and vera found it] something about 9/11 & Buffy-work so we could link & have a thread of comments. It didn't feel right -- at least for me -- to let this day go by on whedonesque without talking about it. I like reading what y'all are writing.
QuoterGal | September 12, 06:21 CET
yamsham | September 12, 06:41 CET
It seemed very strange for me to go to uni an hour later and sit through a three hour postgrad lecture on molecular pathway signalling in Fungi before I could just sit down and watch all the reports that were coming in.
I know my Granma found out by switching briefly to BBC world news sometime after midnight, seeing the breaking news images and then staying up all night unable to stop watching as it all unfolded half a world away
vera | September 12, 06:52 CET
I remember that I was in English class, and it was 12 hours after-the-fact (because of the timezones). My classmate turned on the radio, and my entire class, composed of 35-odd Chinese girls, just sat there in stunned silence. It's definitely something that transcends national borders, timezones, race... The grief was palpable, even though none of us were American, or knew any Americans personally. I also remember feeling shame that I was relieved that it wasn't us, that it wasn't anyone whom I knew.
I further learnt not to take my family for granted when they were a hair's breadth away from the July London Underground bombings last year. They were headed for Paddington that exact hour, but changed their minds and decided to take a cab at the last minute instead. But for the grace of God, I would no longer have parents or a sister. I was at home, and was mad with worry because they didn't call until they'd landed in Amsterdam hours later.
Now that I'm living in New York, 9/11/01 is not just a memory of myself in a schoolroom, but something that I see around me in the city, in the residents of NYC, in the physical rubble of ground zero. I think about what if my parents and sister weren't that lucky - and feel for the people who lost someone that day in such a senseless, unreasonable manner.
non sequitur | September 12, 06:52 CET
madmolly | September 12, 06:52 CET
What's clearer in my mind is a while later riding around the LA area with a JAG officer, helping set up the legal briefings he was giving to soldiers on alert in their National Guard armories, waiting to be called up for the new security missions. The mood was still grim but everybody was acting upbeat, "hooah!", trying to be professional. We had all guessed that we weren't going to be such part-time soldiers anymore.
So my main 9/11-related memory is riding around LA in uniform in the Major's little red convertible with the top down. Palm trees. Sunshine.
dreamlogic | September 12, 07:22 CET
Pointy | September 12, 07:38 CET
dreamlogic | September 12, 07:50 CET
"No."
"Turn it on."
"Why?"
"Just turn it on."
"What channel?" My finger hits the power button as I realize the implication of her not having already volunteered that information. "It's on all the channels, isn't it?"--and the picture comes on.
It was the undisguised shock in Katie Couric's voice as she reported that last rites were being said over the bodies on the streets that first broke through the surreal unreality of it. Then Katie went back into professional mode and Mom called to say Dad was in ICU and needed a triple bypass. No way to get there in any sort of time. No planes. No phone lines to friends and family in New York or Boston. My boyfriend-to-be emailed from Boston's John Hancock building to report the building being evacuated.
I think, at the time, I may have been distracted from the actual awfulness of 9/11 by my dad and distracted from the actual awfulness of my dad's situation by 9/11. I didn't cry. It was all too weird, too real to cry about.
Dad survived. That email from the Hancock was the first of many and then the guy moved from Boston and we were together for two years. I wonder if 9/11 had anything to do with this? I read a lot of people got engaged or made babies soon after that day--sort of like the conversation in "The Message" about people's reactions to death where Jayne tells Book it make him want "a piece of trim" from a willing woman.
Good to see this thread. To read all your experiences of the day, to read and share the sympathy expressed for the victims and survivors of 9/11 and the aftermath and of all terrorism attacks-- no matter the time, nation, or place. Thank you.
edited to add--Oh Quotergal, you posted while I was writing the above, and my heart is full of sorrow to hear about your Dad's passing at that time! How strangely human for there to have been all that loss, for us all to be discussing all the loss of that day--and for news of how your father passed away then when mine survived to feel like a blow to the body. I am sad for you and for all of us.
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narnia | September 12, 07:56 CET
We traded stories and (vied for the title of "Threadkillah" -- with gossi stepping in, as well.) I haven't forgotten that you're now going through more stuff with and about your Dad -- I hope you & your'n are as well as can be expected, given the situation. Thanks for your kind thoughts...
QuoterGal | September 12, 11:16 CET
billz | September 12, 11:29 CET
I remember desperately trying to find news but most of the web-sites being down (we had no TV at work) due to a kind of global version of the slashdot effect. Took me an hour or so to think of the one site that, by definition, can't be slashdotted i.e. Slashdot. There was already a post about the news with hundreds of comments and I remember being impressed at the overwhelming majority of moderate, considered responses as news continued to filter in.
My strongest memory about September 11th isn't actually from September 11th though, it's from a couple of years later, around Christmas. My Dad is a very traditionally Scottish example of the gender, a man's role is to provide for his family, men don't show emotion, take your knocks and keep going etc. Anyway, he was telling a story he'd read in the paper about a guy that died in one of the towers because he'd stayed to help his friend. His friend was in a wheelchair and the guy knew that the friend basically wasn't going to get out in time so he simply decided to stay. Made his phonecalls, told everyone he loved them and then went to be by his friend's side. My Dad, who hadn't even let me see him break-down when his Mum died, was sitting in tears by the end of the story, barely able to get his words out. He thought it was one of the most beautiful things he'd ever heard. And who am I to argue ?
RIP all those who died, and condolences to those who lost someone.
Saje | September 12, 14:08 CET
I think a lot of us grew up that day...
Kentonist | September 12, 15:57 CET
Five years ago, I was driving my kids to school. They actually let me leave the radio on NPR because my daughter was starting a current events class. The first reports made it sound like a little Cessna or something had hit, so it seemed odd that the President was already talking about terrorists. Then I got to work, checked online; it was the first time every network news page were so overloaded that it took forever to get on. I worked in a dorm at the time, so I found an excuse to go upstairs to the dining hall so I could see the TV, just as the second tower fell.
I had only second or third hand connection with anyone who was there, a friend's cousin was stepping out of the subway to go to work in the WTC when the planes hit. My daughter's classmate's father just happened to be working in his brokerage's New Jersey office that day.
Sassafras | September 12, 17:13 CET
I live and work 20 miles from NYC, in a commuter area. That morning was spent trying to get information about the status and work places of co-workers’ friends and family. There were very few of us who did not have someone who should have been at the Towers that day. Unlike most of the others, my brother had stopped working there 10 months before and a co-worker, who had just left a job in the Towers, knew her husband had decided to work from home that day rather than going in to his office in the WTC. We tried to gather information to help the others stay calm since no one knew which tower was which or where their loved ones worked in relation to where the planes had hit.
Broadcast TV was down when the Towers fell, as was most radio. The internet news services were down as well. We were in a bubble, getting horrible reports by phone from friends who had a view of Manhattan while we were looking out of the window at a surreally pristine blue sky.
After they sent us home, I saw what had happened on the only NJ Broadcast TV station. That and an ABC station that they got going later would be the only two broadcast TV stations in our area for weeks. When my son got home from Kindergarten with a message from the school that they were leaving it to the parents to explain to the children what had happened, I showed it to my son once and turned off the TV. I also explained that he should not talk to his classmates about it unless his teacher started the discussion, because we didn’t know whether any of them lost family yet. (Which parents did not show up to pick up their children after school and whose cars were left at the Park and Rides were some of the first ways the authorities were trying to determine who was missing.)
My town and company ended up lucky. We lost very few. One by one my co-workers heard from their people. One by one I was eventually able to get in touch with my friends who lived in NYC. Some individual local towns lost more than 20 residents that day, however. When the obituaries started in the local paper, I decided to read each one, both to honor the memories of innocent people who had been senselessly killed and to give thanks that more had not died. They went on and on, pages and pages of them for months.
Early that day I had felt the tears start but had pushed them down until later. It turned out that “later” did not come for many months. Like everyone else I was in shock. I could not wrap my mind around what had happened. I visited Ground Zero a couple weeks later to try to make myself believe it. It did not help, though seeing a crane that looked like a toy on top of this huge pile of rubble, gave me a jolt of perspective. The cloud of smoke was visible for a long time afterward from high points all over Northern NJ and for months afterward a smell hung over lower Manhattan that had some strange relationship to burning rubber.
Last night I tried to explain to my son what happened that day but had to keep stopping because of the tears, even though I was not personally affected by the tragedy any more than the rest of the country. My story is nothing special. Other than my luck, it is typical of what millions of people in this area were going through that day. I can not imagine the pain and trauma of the people who were closer to the tragedy or who lost loved ones. My heart goes out to them every day. Unfortunately, I think I finally do have some idea of what my parents felt on December 7, 1941, the day Pearl Harbor was bombed. I hope my son never gets the same understanding of 9/11.
newcj | September 12, 18:41 CET
A friend made a quick decision that saved her life. There was a subway station at ground zero, her regular stop. She got off the train that morning and noticed something. So she turned around and got back on the train. The doors closed and she rode off to safety.
Pointy | September 12, 18:56 CET
BTW: I strongly recommend checking out the comic books, including Artists Respond and Emergency Relief, produced for 9/11 charities wherein writers and artists struggle to make sense of the events, from every possible perspective. Also the book 102 Minutes, which tells the stories of those inside the towers.
SoddingNancyTribe | September 12, 21:03 CET
I am always struck by the combination of utter damn luck and individual behavior that can spell survival in holocaust & cataclysm. Personal responsibility and the roll of the wheel.
QuoterGal | September 12, 22:12 CET
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Pointy | September 13, 04:06 CET
Am hoping Gossi will come and vy for threadkillah status. But fear I have won the belt.
narnia | September 13, 08:47 CET
It was a shocker is an understatement, and I can say I was somewhere during that history making event. Not proud of that fact though. Sometimes the chinese proverb "May you live in interesting times" is not a good thing.
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kurya | September 17, 04:14 CET