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January 08 2007

Joss gets picked as an ideal mate in poll. He features alongside the likes of Cary Grant and Clark Gable. Tampa Bay women described Joss as "Witty, bright, a feminist, creates strong female characters".

Cheers to Suzie for the heads up.

How did I not know this was being done? I live in Tampa!!! Guess that's what I get for being a St Pete Times gal rather than a Tampa Trib reader! Not a fan of Travolta, but to see Joss alongside Cary Grant & Clark Gable, WAHOO!
Tampa Bay women described him as "Witty, bright, a feminist, creates strong female characters".

(my emphasis)

Yes but why though ? Why is he 'witty' ?

I take it the women of Tampa Bay know that Cary Grant's dead, right ? Cos as a guy that aspect would really put me off, say, Grace Kelly or Ingrid Bergman who'd otherwise be right up there. Yep, maybe i'm old fashioned but on my list of attractive qualities 'A pulse' has always featured pretty highly.
Yep, maybe i'm old fashioned but on my list of attractive qualities 'A pulse' has always featured pretty highly.

Spoil sport.
a lot of Spike- and Angel-lovers wouldn't consider a pulse necessary though, Saje. But my love interests are lively and alive, too: Doug Petrie :)
Well, a full third of them are dead, so yay for Joss for still existing! (For the record, Travolta scares me a little, but I can see Hanks and Smith.)
Yeah I can't see Travolta as a viable option either. (All that Scientology stuff creeps me out).

I would even prefer the no pulse option over him as long as the guy stayed in his coffin and didn't come to visit. Would make for a peaceful marriage I image.
I take it the women of Tampa Bay know that Cary Grant's dead, right


Well it was an ideal poll. You and me will get picked next time round.
I'd hit that. ;-)
*fears for the future of this thread* :)
You and me will get picked next time round.

And without even being dead at the time (talk about a cheap gimmick). In yer face Grant !

*keenly awaits the next poll of Tampa Bay women*
I take it the women of Tampa Bay know that Cary Grant's dead, right

And there was also, y'know, the gay thing.

So he's dead, AND gay. Like Tara. (See how nicely I maged to tie that back in to the Jossverse? It's a gift.)

So Joss is already at least two points ahead.
I would have chosen Perry Como in 1956 too. So I applaud these Tampa women's taste in men. Go Joss!
Yeah, Joss! He *is* the ideal mate, heck he's the ideal human. We should all be so lucky to favor him.

Gee, what a fangirl I am. Suck up much?
Storyteller > I think you are thinking of Rock Hudson not Cary Grant. Never heard any stories about Grant being gay, at least I cannot recall any.
Cary Grant is actually popularly thought to have been bisexual (see the Wikipedia article on him)
Wow, I knew Cary Grant got married a few times, but I didn't know *five*.

Sorry, sort of off topic.

[ edited by fortunateizzi on 2007-01-08 19:39 ]
Yep, maybe i'm old fashioned but on my list of attractive qualities 'A pulse' has always featured pretty highly.

So Saje, neither Darla nor Dru would interest you? Even concurrently?
JOSS WHEDON, creator of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
Witty, bright, a feminist, creates strong female characters

Well, hells yeah. I think the whole "I like dangerous bad boys who treat me badly" thing is usually over by the end of your twenties - if you ever had it at all - and someone like Joss begins to loom large for many women as extremely precious, rare and sought-after. I'd envy Kai, except my guy is bright, witty, kind, creative and a feminist, too. *sigh*

Although he hasn't "created" strong female characters. He just likes 'em a bunch.

wikipedia: "Drake mocked rumors of Grant's homosexuality. 'I didn't have time to think about his homosexuality," she says, "we were too busy f******.' "

Drake has long maintained that rumours of Grant's bisexuality are false, but I don't see that this can ever be settled.
So Saje, neither Darla nor Dru would interest you? Even concurrently?

Well, I didn't mention it but 'Unlikely to kill me' is also on my list (possibly even above 'A pulse'). I know, I know, i'm fussy, it's a thing.

(purely from a physical stand-point they might be the joint exception that proves the rule though ;)
When Joss answered my question during the Fanboy Radio interview, I remember a couple of adjectives he used about himself were depressive and twisted (well, maybe not twisted but it was something like that) and a couple other things I can't remember. It's surprising those words came to his mind when describing himself, though I'm sure they were said with a grain of salt, at least I hope. Well, his wife likes him so that's good enough for me. I think the hardest thing about being with someone like Joss might be loneliness, i.e. so, so busy. Where to find alone time? Other than that, I'd love to meet someone like him. He has a good heart, that Joss, and cares about things that matter.
OzLady -- I just laughed so abruptly that I spit my water all over the screen. Fantastic. :)

*goes to work fielding study to prove Simon and Saje would rank at the top of the pile amongst Whedonesque women of "Ideal Mates from the Black"* There, there, boys.
Well, Tonya J, while Joss was busy working, you could be online at Whedonesque and MySpace. That way, you'd never feel lonely, silly! ;-)
For whatever reason I read that as "Joss gets picked as an ideal inmate in poll". Now theres a poll!
Also, Tonya J, maybe Joss does most of his writing at home, like Jane Espenson for instance? That way, his wife still gets to see him a lot. He's not always directing, I think most of his work time is taken up by writing, especially these days (Runaways, Wonder Woman, Goners, Buffy S8, etc.).

-edit- I just realised how unfeminist (might as well stay on topic) this post was, in subconsciously assuming that his wife just sits home all day taking care of the kids while Joss is scribbling away in his writing room. Maybe she has an even busier job than him and they still don't see each other a lot because she's never home even though he is. I apologise.

[ edited by Storyteller on 2007-01-08 23:34 ]
Aw, cheers barest, you make the burden (and obvious dating disadvantage) of not being dead that much easier to bear ;).
For whatever reason I read that as "Joss gets picked as an ideal inmate in poll".


Or ideal running mate.
I wonder what Joss is like when he gets interrupted. I have read he works at home. Would he be scary like Jack Torrance:

"Jack: Wendy, let me explain something to you. Whenever you come in here and interrupt me youíre breaking my concentration. (He takes out the sheet from the typewriter and begins tearing it up.) And it will then take me time to get back to where I was! Do you understand?

Wendy: Yeah.

Jack: Fine. Now weíre gonna make a new rule. Whenever Iím in here and you hear me typing . . . (tap tap taptaptap) or whether you donít hear me typing or whatever the fuck you hear me doing in here, when I am in here that means that I am working, that means donít come in. Now do you think you can handle that?

Wendy: Yeah.

Jack: Fine. Why donít you start right now and get the fuck outta here?

"Wendy: Okay.


Nah.
I believe Kai is an architect - I don't know what she has created and if she is currently working at it.

Saje, you would be in the top ten of my hypothetical WhedonMatch picks, despite your obvious disadvantage of not being dead, and your silly insistence on a partner who is unlikely to kill you.

We all have our flaws...
Last time I talked to Kai (which was at least 5 years ago, granted) I thought she was studying something in the sociological field, but I could be wrong...
When Joss answered my question during the Fanboy Radio interview, I remember a couple of adjectives he used about himself were depressive and twisted (well, maybe not twisted but it was something like that) and a couple other things I can't remember.


Ah, the dark, sad, sensitive type -- a time honored girl-catcher. Makes you want to cuddle his broody ass until he falls into an almost peaceful, but slightly disturbed, sleep.
I always find it interesting that people choose artists in these polls and yet it seems to this humble observer that most people cannot deal with artistic types in real life.

Just sayin'.
I hear you, newcj. I have a broody artist friend of my very own and watch many a relationship fall apart because the ladies can't deal with being second priority to his creative monster.
Ah, the dark, sad, sensitive type

Eeeek! My ex-husband! Oh wait, who were we talking about... why yes, The Boss. I'd take him, broody ass and all. Those guys have their perks, you know, the way they -- um, hmm. Why does this topic inevitably lead to self-censorhip for fear of lifetime banishment from Whedonesque?

*dashes off to search for more online "ideal mate" polls*
My partner and I are both artists and leave each other a great deal of room in which to to get all broody and creatifyin', so maybe that helps... that and the huge amount of personal time you retain, even while working full-time, if you don't have kids...

When I write, I need a lot more time and quiet than if I'm making visual art, and I get a lot more cranky. During those times, frankly, I don't know how my partner can stand me. I'm sure it helps that he's a bit of a workaholic.

"There is no way that writers can be tamed and rendered civilized or even cured. The only solution known to science is to provide the patient with an isolation room, where he can endure the acute stages in private and where food can be poked in to him with a stick." - Robert A. Heinlein
Oh, Joss. Here's what he said in the interview. I haven't listened to it since that day: "I think the only impediment to Buffy really being happy at the end of the story is if I turned out to be some kind of morbid, depressive, annoying person. And what are the odds of that?" Slim to none? 50/50? I'd still marry a creative person though, because they would then be in a position to understand me.
I think Joss was just being funny with that comment. I doubt "broody" fits the bill for him. Sensitive, yeah, I can see that but annoying and broody? Nah.
How cool is that we aren't the only ones who appreciate this guy?
I think Joss just crossed the line from brilliant creator to sexy heart throb.
Clearly none of us know what's really going on inside the Boss Fella, that's hard enough with someone you've spent years with never mind someone you merely admire from afar but it seems to me that writers that are totally balanced and well adjusted people with no hint of depressive traits are the exception rather than the rule (especially if they're any good). Hell, people that are totally balanced and well adjusted are the exception.

(and if you're gonna portray darkness effectively maybe you have to have some within ?)

(also, wow, top 10 ? Ta, Quotergal ;). It's all the sweeter considering the number of dead guys I had to beat off to get there ... Yep, thinking about re-phrasing that)
Saje,
I think it's adorable that you prefer gals who aren't likely to kill you. I'm in favor of anything that increases the odds for those of us who aren't homicidal and do breath. (Actually, was breathing in there? Or just having a pulse?) And climbing on the bandwagon here, I'd definitely take you, even over any dead guy that I know.

[ edited by barboo on 2007-01-09 20:42 ]
Saje, I also commend you for taking a stand against giving in to pure physical attractiveness in favor of women who have a pulse and won't try to kill you. I have met many men for whom such concerns are way down the list. ;-)

"My partner and I are both artists and leave each other a great deal of room in which to to get all broody and creatifyin'"

That always seemed the logical solution to me, but it is pretty hard to come by as well. My hat is off to all the couples who make it work.

"When I write, I need a lot more time and quiet than if I'm making visual art, and I get a lot more cranky."

Me too, Quotergirl, except for the making visual art part. Writing definitely makes me moodier than acting or especially singing. That is why I haven't allowed myself to really write in so long...but I think I may be reaching the point of the crankiness manifesting itself independently...Hey, like Lorne with his sleep removed! Maybe I should rethink this strategy.
Now that I'm a member of this great site, I can say that I "nominated" Joss for this story, which just happened to have been written by one of my best friends and a big Joss fan, Donna Koehn.

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