Whedonesque : Comments on 12811 : Talking about Buffy.

There quite some amusing info in there:

So now they've upped the season for about 50 issues... wow.... so we'll take about 4 years to get the full season, if it does not get even larger later on.

And Scott even talks about when we'll see Joss' upcoming arcs.

Numfar PTB | March 24, 22:36 CET

Allie said the comic series will initially be called “Season Eight” but there is a subtitle that will be added after issue #6.

“We can’t reveal the subtitle now, it will give too much away,” he said.

Ooh.

The One True b!X | March 24, 22:49 CET

Let the subtitle guessing game begin!

Pointy | March 24, 22:51 CET

Great details! The waiting will be too much to handle.

hitnrun017 | March 24, 23:00 CET

Thanks for the post Simon, that was a fun read.

Can't wait to see what this whole sub-title business is about!

alexreager | March 24, 23:08 CET

50 issues, Mysterious Subtitle. This is very exciting.I couldn't even guess what the subtitle will be.

Do they mean it will be added on issue 7?Odd time to do that, the second issue of the Faith arc.

feigenbaum7 | March 24, 23:17 CET

I think they meant from issue six. I presume it'll just be where it currently says "season eight" - I think the brand's too strong to risk making it look like an offshoot.

daylight | March 24, 23:20 CET

Let the subtitle guessing game begin!

"Buffy Season 8: Morgan Freeman's Revenge"

Saje | March 24, 23:29 CET

"television show about Valley Girls versus vampires"

How was Buffy a "Valley Girl"? My memory of the BtVS film is a little hazy now, but the first television episode referred to her as having lived in LA, not the valley suburbs of LA. And my impression of Sunnydale is that it was up the coast from LA (didn’t Joss say it was loosely based on Santa Barbara?), so it wouldn't have been part of the Valley either. Aside from referencing the wrong literal location, the remark is an odd one, since "valley girl" was always an insult--"valley girls" were supposed to be airheads with a suspect sense of style. In any case, the idea of the show being about "Valley Girls versus vampires" makes me wonder if the article writer saw much of the show. I’d describe it as being about “one girl and her friends” against vampires. Her “friends” included girls, boys, her watcher, two slayers from elsewhere, and a couple of vampires, among others. I suppose the line was just glib, but accuracy is a fine thing!

anniem | March 25, 00:14 CET

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Low Fat?

If that's not it, my bet is on Sugar Free.

UnpluggedCrazy | March 25, 00:19 CET

Let the subtitle guessing game begin!

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Towards Fray"

The One True b!X | March 25, 00:23 CET

Pat Lee? Noooooooo!!! Joss, how can you do this to me!?

Niels | March 25, 00:25 CET

I've actually made the (some would say stupid) choice to wait and read this in trade paperback format. Despite the difficulty of avoiding spoilers I have found in recent years with the various Marvel comics I read that I prefer to wait and read a decent length trade than the monthly comics. The story just seems to work better for me that way.

I have to admit that I'm starting to regret that decision now though. Knowing that there is new canon Buffy goodness out there to be enjoyed and yet forcing myself to wait to see it is real torture. Even so, given the fact that the series is being put together in definite story arcs (that I would assume will each be gathered into their own trade) I tend to think I'm making the right choice, painful as it currently is.

Telltale, I'm hoping that "Pat Lee" is a typo and that they actually meant Paul Lee, as somebody in the Newsarama thread suggested. We can only pray!

WhedonTrivia | March 25, 00:28 CET

I think it's suppose to be Paul Lee also. Scott Allie mentioned in the Buffy Zone that Paul Lee will be the artist for #5, so hopefully a typo.

hitnrun017 | March 25, 00:34 CET

It is not Pat Lee. That was indeed a typo, it is Paul Lee, who drew Buffy #46: Withdrawal and Buffy #55: Dawn and Hoopy the Bear... I've spoken to Paul Lee on MySpace, and he told me that he is the pencillerfor #5 as well as doing the varian cover, plus he and Brian Horton are doing covers for the reissues.

buffycomics | March 25, 00:37 CET

Great to know that we'll have new Buffy for the next couple of years.Also nice to have a schedule of writers for the first twenty issues.

Buffyfantic | March 25, 00:39 CET

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Towards Fray"

Hah. Ahem.

gossi | March 25, 00:39 CET

Broken Soul, yeah, just read up to there, too. And now that the initial shock has worn off, I remember that Paul Lee was planned to do some work on the series, so that's probably it.

So fortunately, now I can just be happy about the 50-some issues and the mysterious subtitle!

Niels | March 25, 00:39 CET

Ahem what?

The One True b!X | March 25, 00:45 CET

Buffycomics, can you please stop self-promoting? It's getting a little tacky. I've deleted the URL from your post.

Caroline | March 25, 00:50 CET

Let the subtitle guessing game begin!

"Buffy Season 8: Samuel L. Jackson v. Mothaf****n Demons On A Zeppelin"

Actually, there are no words for how wonderful it was to crack the first issue. Jo Chen's cover, Jeanty's artwork inside and Joss' words. I could hear Sarah, Nick's and Michelle's voices in my head as I read the words. 50 issues? What a gift.

I haven't read a comic since I was a kid. Getting used to the word bubbles and their order was a challenge; up, down, left, right. Who's talking now? My only critical remark is ... it ended too soon. But that last panel was fantastic.

Tonya J | March 25, 00:55 CET

SanGiacomo writes a good column but they're usually littered with typos like that one.

Although I suppose it's not his fault there's that many comic book creators named Lee. (Pat, Paul, Jim, Stan, etc.)

Incidentally am I alone in not seeing/hearing/feeling/tasting (delete where applicable) the actors while reading the comic? It being so long since I last saw the TV show, I actually find it kind of refreshing to experience the Buffy characters very much the way her creator (and, I suppose, his comicbook collaborators) saw them, without the restriction of a pre-defined physical (and vocal) form. Or at least, it gives me the rare opportunity to "fill in the blanks" for myself.

[ edited by daylight on 2007-03-24 22:04 ]

daylight | March 25, 00:55 CET

Wow... I thought 20 issues was great and was thrilled to hear the count go up to 30, but now 50 is so incredible!! I had to double check the article and would have figured it for a typo like the Pat Lee/Paul Lee mistake if the number hadn't come up twice.

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Towards Fray" - That would be a great title! With the large issue count, I wouldn't be surprised if Joss ends the series off with literally wrapping up the Buffy universe (at least present day), with the incident that is described in flashbacks in Fray.

Matt_Fabb | March 25, 01:00 CET

Daylight, how could you bring yourself to include Pat Lee in the same grouping as Jim or Stan, even with the surname connection.

It's just... wrong!!! :D

WhedonTrivia | March 25, 01:02 CET

Saje, UnpluggedCrazy, theonetruebix, Tonya J:

LO loud, painful snorts. :)

"Buffy Season 8: Slayer vs. Slayer"

Alternate: "Slayerfest 2007-2011"

Pointy | March 25, 01:04 CET

Hey, don't blame me - I never chose his surname, nor did I ever encourage him to become a comics creator/publisher.

Although having said that, if I'd done the latter, I don't think I would ever own up to it...

daylight | March 25, 01:07 CET

Ahem what?

I'm pretty sure I've heard it said the Buffy comics will link into the Fray mythology. So you might not be far off le mark.

gossi | March 25, 01:10 CET

Every time the number of issues increases it makes me just a little bit happier.

Derf | March 25, 01:24 CET

50? Oy! That might make the return of Tara about 4 years into the future. :-)

But as for the subtitle, I think it will be: "Buffy, Slayer of Vampyres" or perhaps "Spiked!" or maybe even "Keeping the Faith."

Dana5140 | March 25, 01:29 CET

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Once More With Squeeeeeeeeing"

The One True b!X | March 25, 01:30 CET

Considering the series is now going to run for around an astonishing 50 issues, each likely with a variant cover, here's my guess at the subtitle:

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer: It Eats You Starting With Your Wallet"

WindTheFrog | March 25, 01:59 CET

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Mmm, Cookies"

50 issues, Yay!

Broken Soul - I wish I could wait for the trade paperback. I do love reading them. I can't even make myself do it in Astonishing X Men or Runaways, where I am think I won't be get Spoiled all the time.

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer: It Eats You Starting With Your Wallet"

You win, that's great.

[ edited by urkonn on 2007-03-24 23:04 ]

urkonn | March 25, 02:01 CET

Buffy the vampire slayer:The dance of capitalist superiority.

Thats why its all about Anya, its all about raking in the money.

feigenbaum7 | March 25, 02:02 CET

Buffy season 8: Infinite Issues.

Simon | March 25, 02:40 CET

Just wondering, but what's all the hubbub about this Pat Lee fellow?

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: King Kong vs. Dawnzilla

RaisedByMongrels | March 25, 03:26 CET

Scott Allie has posted a response to the article; it's on the second page, four posts down (in which he confirms, among other things, that it is indeed Paul Lee rather than Pat Lee illustrating #5).

daylight | March 25, 04:17 CET

Thank goodness. I was having all sorts of weird thoughts, like when referring to the wrong Lee, one might say "It's Pat!"

Tonya J | March 25, 04:54 CET

I like the link further down the 2nd page, to the Christian minister's review of issue #1. It's was probably actually posted here at some point and I missed it.

The One True b!X | March 25, 04:59 CET

Season Eight: Blatant Goners Crossover!

Craig Oxbrow | March 25, 05:57 CET

50 issues? And Joss being so highly involved? This is such wonderful news. I'm so glad we have Buffy back and it's not going any where soon. Wow, 50 issues!

maje | March 25, 06:19 CET

The article talks about the comic being different from Buffy of tv, because in the comic, Buffy also deals with monsters "other than vampires." Doesn't sound like there was a whole lot of Btvs watching by the author, if he never noticed any non-vampire monsters..

toast | March 25, 06:31 CET

How about "Buffy Season Eight: What the CW Really Needs" or "Buffy Season Eight: Ten Years After"

impalergeneral | March 25, 06:42 CET

Buffy season 8: "You know you're gonna buy it no matter what we call the fucking thing."

NekoDono | March 25, 08:50 CET

Buffy season 8: The Revenge of Wonder Woman

No, no wait, I got it...

Buffy season 8: How Buffy got her groove back!

jerryst3161 | March 25, 08:55 CET

"Buffy Season 8: Starring Priyanka Chopra"

The One True b!X | March 25, 09:14 CET

Buffy Season 8: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Hellmouth of Sunnydale.

..Yeah, I just recently rewatched Borat and am still giggly.

UnpluggedCrazy | March 25, 09:45 CET

I still like "Buffy Season 8: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Buffy" but I already used that on here recently, so gonna go with:

"Buffy Season 8: Bigger, Longer & Uncut"

because out-and-out stealing is the sincerest form of flattery.

QuoterGal | March 25, 10:40 CET

"Buffy Season 8: Bigger, Longer & Uncut"

I'm afraid to ask which character, like Stan, goes on a quest the find the, uh, you know.

The One True b!X | March 25, 10:46 CET

The last ten issues will probably just be bloopers. Deleted scenes etc ...

AND the last issue comes with an audio CD with Joss his commentary for each issue.

brownish coat | March 25, 11:52 CET

theonetruebix: "I'm afraid to ask which character, like Stan, goes on a quest the find the, uh, you know."

I'm thinking Andrew - but that he never does actually locate it.

QuoterGal | March 25, 12:24 CET

Buffy Season Eight: Because Fox Is Too Damned Cheap To Finance The Movies.

deanna b | March 25, 13:12 CET

"Hey, don't blame me - I never chose his surname, nor did I ever encourage him to become a comics creator/publisher." - daylight

Regarding the surname issue, Paul Lee posted this over in the Newsarama thread.

I can assure you that it is Paul Lee, and not Pat Lee. How? Because I am Paul Lee and I am working on issue #5. Also, no relation to Pat Lee. Stan Lee is my grandfather however, Jim Lee is my dad. Jae Lee is my brother. Lee Bremejo is my cousin. And Lee Weeks is someone I'd really like to meet. That being said, there are too many Lee's in comics. So officially, Pat Lee can be refered to as Pat Liefeld from now on.... just to avoid confusion.

Pat Liefeld. Love it! :D

WhedonTrivia | March 25, 14:23 CET

Veering off-topic, but: My personal award for the subtitle that gives away too much, the most:

Defoe's ''Life and Most Surprising Adventures of Robinson Crusoe of York, Mariner: Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un-inhabited Island on the Coast of AMERICA, near the Mouth of the Great River of OROONOQUE; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. WITH an Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by PYRATES.''

Talk about a spoiler.

toast | March 25, 15:31 CET

At least he didn't mention the aliens.

No, wait a minute, that's 'Independence Day' i'm thinking of.

(kinda like "The Sixth Sense: Life and Most Surprising Adventures of BRUCE WILLIS IS DEAD THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE MOVIE !")

I also think it's hilarious that some of the folk on that board have now started debating the 'muppety Odin' line. It's like it was specifically crafted to generate controversy, only I suspect it so totally wasn't ;).

Saje | March 25, 16:18 CET

Does "Great Muppety Odin" strike anybody else as something Xander would say rather than Buffy?

batmarlowe | March 25, 18:44 CET

toast - but was it canon?

Saje - dude, invisotext for spoilers, please? ;-)

catalyst2 | March 25, 18:50 CET

Sorry, what I meant to say was SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE !

Gotta sort out this spoiler Tourette's at some JEFF BRIDGES ACTUALLY DID IT ! point, wonder if there's a pill ... ;-)

Saje | March 25, 20:15 CET

Buffy Season 8: The Revenge of Ricardo Montalban

Buffy Season 8: So Very Naked.

Wait...

Sorry, did I just say that out loud?

*approaches ticket desk*

I'd like a ticket to the special hell please.

Hmm, what?

No, no, I won't be needing the return.

williamthebloody1880 | March 25, 22:28 CET

Looks like that growth spurt problem of Dawn's isn't clearing up anytime soon.

barboo | March 25, 23:42 CET

Buffy Season 8: Into the Oven!

htom | March 26, 19:20 CET

Buffy Season 8: Into the Oven!

'Cause that's the way the chocolate chip cookie dough bakes?

Pointy | March 26, 23:05 CET

Too bad that Faith miniseries never happened. It's not too late, though. Would've rather had that than Fray. actually.

themayor | March 27, 00:21 CET

Well, since it looks like I won't be following this, since I apparently won't be able to get it....

Looks like it'll definitely,e ventually, conflict with my personal AU, which I'm so into by now, altho I can safely follow it up until about spring of '05....

Seriously, I'm getting more and more curious as miles, err time goes by. "you played it for her, you can play it for me" and let's face it, it won't be the first comic I've, out of sheer force of cicumstance, come in on with the second issue. But I think this'll impress me more than Dazzler or She-Hulk. *grin.

DaddyCatALSO | March 27, 00:36 CET

Don't knock She-Hulk. The current Dan Slott-written series is awesome.

daylight | March 27, 20:17 CET

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