March 27
2007
Joss Whedon - the Dark Horse interview.
Lots and lots of fun quotes to be had (plus some Buffy season 8 stuff too).
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Oh my, funniest line ever! And it still catches the problem we all face in adjusting to the comic book format (and giving up our beloved actors).
embers | March 27, 20:22 CET
themayor | March 27, 20:25 CET
I knew it, it's Warren! "Buffy Season 8: The Quest for Skin"
ETA: (little winking thing)
[ edited by Pointy on 2007-03-27 18:25 ]
Pointy | March 27, 20:29 CET
gossi | March 27, 21:01 CET
I've now figured out the one medium in which I would *not* watch a resurrection of BtVS: marionette theater. Yikes. Those little wooden bodies and painted faces, those little crabbed voices, those bouncing strings. Creepy. I'm glad the marionettes are on strike.
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2007-03-27 18:10 ]
phlebotinin | March 27, 21:10 CET
You know, I'm beginning to wonder if he means Warren, too. But, ewww.
Sunfire | March 27, 21:10 CET
Craig Oxbrow | March 27, 21:30 CET
And I am also pro-fun, Joss can be as silly as he likes in his interviews (and personally I would adore Buffy marionette theater!).
embers | March 27, 21:40 CET
Last night I got my monthly package-o-comics in the mail and I had Buffy #1, 2 issues of Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, Runaways, Y The Last Man and 2 issues of The Walking Dead. It has been a good month.
war_machine | March 27, 21:43 CET
jcs | March 27, 22:21 CET
MrArg | March 27, 22:33 CET
Not to mention that Willow then disintegrated the body.
jlp | March 27, 22:35 CET
And there's plenty of info in the interview, if you know how to read between the funny.
bigsofty | March 27, 22:38 CET
I have to disagree about whether Powers can be stopped, though. I've been waiting for new trades to come out for so long that I sometimes wonder if it's still going.
Not a fan of Girls at all, but Scott Pilgrim is pleasantly insane and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane is adorable in ways that grown men should not find so pleasing. (But totally do.)
Niels | March 27, 22:39 CET
Meltha | March 27, 22:51 CET
I agree that this interview was a nice change from the ones the past few months, in terms of Joss-morale.
Sunfire | March 27, 23:07 CET
Nebula1400 | March 27, 23:10 CET
Rogue Slayer | March 27, 23:32 CET
"Doesn't a fellow stay dead when you kill him?"
"Look who's talking."
Sunfire | March 27, 23:39 CET
Like Buffy you mean ? ;)
Making with the bananas, that crazy wackster. Hell, i'm gonna throw some zane in there, seems apropos.
Yep, there've been plenty of serious interviews (and no doubt will be plenty more) so I say one that's just for laughs is, well, just for laughs. It's the best medicine apparently*.
Scott Pilgrim Vol. 1 is all kinds of funny, keep meaning to pick up the rest. Of the others I only read Y (in trade so I guess for me it'll probably finish about this time next year assuming he's still quitting at 60).
* Not a medical opinion. Also, cheques will not be honoured.
Saje | March 27, 23:49 CET
KatieB | March 27, 23:58 CET
Saturn Girl | March 28, 00:07 CET
jclemens | March 28, 00:57 CET
Funny, funny man. And apparently he has a shin-hurting tendency, just like whedonesque's own Turtle. Gods love 'em both.
The hanged man for Halloween, huh? In tarot, that represents enormous change, and in life, well, it just represents a crappy way to die.
One year, I was Lizzie Borden, with my very own blood-dripping axe, courtesy of my electrical engineer father. Neighborhood mothers were wary of me after that...
QuoterGal | March 28, 01:02 CET
Like Buffy you mean ? ;)
Well, she did die twice. And wasn't there also a robot version of Warren?
Cider | March 28, 01:02 CET
But this, JW: It started out as twenty-five. But now it's blown up so big, I have so many ideas, so many awesome writers scrambling to get in the game, I think it could go as many as twenty-five. ... Was that a funny or a misprint? Because we know now it's 50 or thereabouts.
And oh, if Buffy and crew had been drawn as Marionettes (Hey! there was scary stuff in Pinocchio, I'm telling you) I'd-a still be buyin' the comic.
Tonya J | March 28, 01:15 CET
Yeah, my point was more despite dying twice (and thus being eligible for First emulation. Really eligible in fact ;) Buffy was still around. As Warren could be - though personally i'm hoping for someone a bit more surprising than Warren or Adam.
(and i'm not really convinced robots can 'die' nor that they'd make such convincing skinless hanging corpses if that's what you're getting at Cider)
In tarot, that represents enormous change, and in life, well, it just represents a crappy way to die.
Which is also a fairly enormous change. Clever Tarot ;).
Saje | March 28, 01:17 CET
Well he mentioned the following in a follow up comment at Newsarama when some asked him if "Into The Fray" might be the subtitle.
Simon | March 28, 01:24 CET
So, I think it's either "marzipan" or "kerfuffle."
QuoterGal | March 28, 01:31 CET
Jona | March 28, 01:35 CET
However, since Warren's death was a mystical death, it should be possible to bring him back, although that might be tricky for a mere mortal as the last Urn of Osiris was destroyed when Willow brought back Buffy, but maybe somebody like D'Hoffryn could pull it off, as it was an act of vengeance, and I watch this show far too often don't I?
AlanD | March 28, 01:37 CET
gossi | March 28, 01:38 CET
I still feel like there is someone I'm forgetting, however.
I never went for the blood and death costumes at Halloween. I think my best was Thing from The Addams Family TV show.
"The name of Season Eight is one word"
...and it is a spoiler...
I got nothing serious, although plenty not serious.
And does it say something about me that every time someone writes "robot Warren" I think rabbit warren...though the spelling is probably different? (A simple yes or no is all that is required for that answer. ;-) )
newcj | March 28, 01:41 CET
Storyteller | March 28, 01:44 CET
Although I do, as well, and I believe the spelling of "warren" is the same...
QuoterGal | March 28, 01:58 CET
I'm holding out for 'Flibbertigibbet' cos how can you not call everything that once you've heard it ?
(and it ties in with my theory that the exciting climax is Buffy challenging the Big Bad to a Scrabble match with 'flibbertigibbet' being her figurative, triple-word-scoring Mr. Pointy. Take that Illiterificus !)
Or there's the methodical approach. I'll start us off: 'Aardvark'.
Saje | March 28, 02:08 CET
I like your thinking. Definitely kerfuffle.
kerfuffle | March 28, 02:28 CET
Now, where are the goats?
GreatMuppetyOdin | March 28, 02:28 CET
2. The Buffyverse death rules could be circumvented by a zombified Warren. To put it grotesquely: a skinless meat puppet as a soulless love muppet.
Pointy | March 28, 02:50 CET
JW: That would be fake. I'll bring back the maimed"
Well we all should know by now that once Joss actually says soemthing it means....
RogueSlayer; and when was Amy ever killed?
AlanD;well, mystic forces seems to apply to persons being raised by human magic, even magic invoking a deity. Direct Divine or Infernal Action we haven't been told about yet. "We'll see how bored that witch is when I get through with her!" is running thru my head right now, unpleasantly so.
phlebotinin; well, if you hate marionettes so much you'd probably like the theme music from the old Alfred Hitchcock Presents; "Funeral March for a MArionette."
Well, for Over-all winner i could see Joss losing out to a girl in a catsuit but he should've gotten Most Imaginative.
Sigh, if only my screenplay ever gets written and rpoduced, there's a neat-o scene involving footless translucent catsuits in it, with SMG in red and Amber in blue....
DaddyCatALSO | March 28, 03:01 CET
Hmmmm. So many of my favorite words would definitely not fit or be too obvious:
"Buffy Season 8: Lugubrious
Lachrymose
Hellacious
Scintillating
Incarnate
Incandescent
Hellzapoppin
Salacious
Sardonic
Homunculous
Arcane
Verdant
Fulsome ... you get the picture
When I think about Buffy, I picture a young woman whose spirit has been tested beyond all reasonable limits, and she still carries on. So my word would be Indomitable. It'll be interesting to see what it actually is.
Tonya J | March 28, 03:19 CET
Him saying there are gonna be twenty-five issues was definitely a joke, and a very funny one at that. Silly Joss. Gotta love him.
So the subtitle is only one word? Guess that rules out all my suggestions.
Okay, new suggestion:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Supercalifragilisticexpialadocius
Nobody ever said it had to be a short word.
UnpluggedCrazy | March 28, 03:26 CET
Zannadoo | March 28, 03:35 CET
It'd be a spoiler, anyway.
[ edited by toast on 2007-03-28 00:50 ]
toast | March 28, 03:50 CET
toast | March 28, 03:54 CET
Excuse me, there are some lawyers from Disney who suggest a different title. Either that, or Julie Andrews is about to be a Watcher...which sounds intriguing
impalergeneral | March 28, 03:57 CET
dark_tyler | March 28, 04:01 CET
feigenbaum7 | March 28, 04:08 CET
Or possibly Humperdinck!
Craig Oxbrow | March 28, 04:13 CET
CHEESE.
Nebula1400 | March 28, 04:22 CET
Incidentally, all of the AXM story titles are one word, too. There are clues everywhere!
Maybe it's:
1) Apocalypse
2) Comicbook! (Although I still prefer to write that as two words.)
2) Neverending (Which would hopefully be a comment on the series itself.)
Niels | March 28, 04:23 CET
DaddyCatALSO | March 28, 04:34 CET
Craig Oxbrow | March 28, 04:50 CET
anniem | March 28, 05:01 CET
Also, Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Fortuitous. Why, because fortuitous is my favourite word in the English language.
Archon Divinus | March 28, 05:21 CET
FRAKKED?
SEXLESS?
BOOMERANG?
I still think it's CHEESE.
Nebula1400 | March 28, 06:12 CET
Tonya J | March 28, 06:17 CET
hacksaway | March 28, 06:26 CET
What with all the dead characters returning. Or as an homage to Alien: Resurrection. Take your pick.
Niels | March 28, 06:28 CET
Lioness | March 28, 06:31 CET
Nebula1400 | March 28, 08:22 CET
Then again, has it ever been riddled out whether or not the whole Cleveland thing is a joke? After all, Cleveland's Hellmouth was only mentioned in the topsy turvy world of "The Wish," and when Giles said it at the end of "Chosen." Though I'm thinking that was almost entirely for comic relief.
Then again, if Giles said it not in an alternate reality...guy doesn't seem like the kinda guy to lie to his buds...
Well, except for "Helpless." Or conveniently never telling the guys about Ben. But whatever.
UnpluggedCrazy | March 28, 08:32 CET
themayor | March 28, 09:15 CET
I was kind of thinking when the whole town caved in on her. Would certainly put a damper on my life.
As for one word titles, I think it'll either be: 'SpuffyvsBangelthistimeit'sforrealz' or 'OrhowIlearnedtostopworryingandlovethevampyre' or maybe just 'Sux'. As in, "The Long Road Home: Sux." (No, that's not a dig at the quality of the comic.)
Rogue Slayer | March 28, 09:33 CET
So you don't think it's "Bunnies", then?
toast | March 28, 09:50 CET
Hey, I resent that ! I happen to be using a PC ;).
Are we on 'D' yet ? Cos 'Discomfortador'. And if we can have (very forced) hyphenation then 'E' would be 'Elephantiasis-of-the-Sister'. Sure, it's the shotgun approach to 'deduction' but it might just work.
Saje | March 28, 10:17 CET
Joss: "Shin-muscles."
He can still bring the funny. Great interview.
L. Talbot | March 28, 10:25 CET
..because Restless rocks!
TwisTz | March 28, 12:27 CET
Or hey, maybe it's one of those Marvel-style titles, like "The Incredible Buffy the Vampire Slayer" or "Astonishing Buffy the Vampire Slayer" or Monty Python-style "It's...Buffy the Vampire Slayer", but no... It's probably "GOATS".
GreatMuppetyOdin | March 28, 12:32 CET
Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season 8: Usurper? It's spoilery, without being too specific. Someone's authority's underthreat etc.
ArielWillow | March 28, 13:45 CET
Caroline | March 28, 14:28 CET
Kid Congo Powers | March 28, 14:34 CET
I'm sorry to have to announce that there will NOT be a Buffy #2 online preview or a "making of" feature. There are a number of two-page sreads at the beginning of the issue, and these won't come across well in our making-of template—and anything after the spreads stands to spoil the story.
Sorry we couldn't do this one, but we'll try to make it up to you.
Scott
The above was a message from the Dark Horse Myspace site.
Simon | March 28, 15:09 CET
Saje | March 28, 15:25 CET
(Riley returns, but you can't see him)?
Well, the alphabet thing; gotta make allowances.
[ edited by toast on 2007-03-28 14:25 ]
toast | March 28, 17:24 CET
I'm thinking that the one word will connect to the big bad of the run. I always thought Adam was lame, but since Joss indicated that he thought they just didn't get it right with Adam, I could see him deciding to take another shot at him. I hope not, because I think Adam is the reason S4 does not get as much credit as IMO it deserves. That, and I am not a fan of monsters. The creature features are always my least favorite episodes.
That said, I fully expect Joss to prove me wrong, and make me love whatever it is he is going to do with Adam or without Adam. Since Warren was another of my least favorites, I really am hoping it is something else. Could the cheese man from Restless really exist? Could he be Amy's new boyfriend? That would explain the need for cheese. We know so little about him, he might need a lab...
Desperation is a terrible thing.
newcj | March 28, 18:38 CET
'Buffy Season 8: Gesundheit' or 'Buffy Season 8: Götterdämmerung' (gotta love German for getting around one word limitations ;).
Or maybe it is Adam and he had to graft parts of Hellmouth mutated insects onto his body to 'survive':
'Buffy Season 8: Adamant'
Cheese-man, hmm ? By Jove I like it. A 'weapons lab' might be needed for cheese weapons like ... very hot toasted cheese sandwiches or microwave pizza after 10 minutes on turbo or, umm, maybe the bacteria from blue cheese ?
Saje | March 28, 19:03 CET
Tonya J | March 28, 19:26 CET
ChosenGuy317 | March 28, 20:13 CET
'Buffy Season 8: Adamant'"
groan
:-D
"As I understand it, the cheese was mentioned because of Amy's previous four-legged lifestyle and not as a hint toward who the boyfriend may be. But I could be wrong, it's just not likely. ;)
ChosenGuy317 | March 28, 17:13 CET "
Joss also invented the mislead. The audience thinks they have been given the answer but in fact, no, there is yet another meanning to the clue!
First make everyone think the cheese is in reference to Amy, who probably survived having Sunnydale fall in on her by turning into a rat again (Because the rats and cockroaches can survive anything it seems.)...only with an automatic reverse...and found the cheese man through her highly attuned rat sniffer. Then reveal he is really the reason why she asked for cheese. He obviously has some connection with the slayer line, so maybe when all the potentials were activated, he got some kind of energy boost that made him corporial...if he wasn't before. Now what is his real purpose? Whose side is he really on? Why does he need a lab? Is he a cheesy version of a Batman villan? Is he the one responsible for the abundance of cheesy entertainment on TV?
Yeah, it'll take at least 50 issues for him alone.
newcj | March 28, 20:39 CET
"Season 8: Gotterdammerung: Ascension of the Nerds."
Too many words, though.
[ edited by toast on 2007-03-28 20:13 ]
toast | March 28, 21:35 CET
If it were two words, I'd go with "Post Mortem", 'cause Splatty-Boy is great with the unexpected, and who'd expect Buffy to die permanently after five issues? Not me.
Another possibility is "Crippled" or "Handicapped"; putting Buffy in a wheel chair have her be all Professor X'y. That'd be something.
I still think it's goats, though. Maybe goat cheese, but that's as far as I'll go.
GreatMuppetyOdin | March 28, 22:49 CET
(BTW, you can get umlauts in Windows by ensuring 'Num Lock' is on, holding down 'Alt' and then typing the ASCII character code on the numeric keypad e.g. Alt-171 = ½, Alt-148 = ö, Alt-132 = ä etc. - just Google 'ascii character set' for the full list. Should you have the inclination that is ;)
Hmm, goats cheese, the bazooka of cheese weaponry (Cat cheese is the nuke, on account of its rarity).
Saje | March 28, 23:54 CET
But "Gorgonzola" sounds better.
jcs | March 29, 01:40 CET
Yeah, my point was more despite dying twice (and thus being eligible for First emulation. Really eligible in fact ;) Buffy was still around. As Warren could be - though personally i'm hoping for someone a bit more surprising than Warren or Adam.
(and i'm not really convinced robots can 'die' nor that they'd make such convincing skinless hanging corpses if that's what you're getting at Cider)
Sorry I obviously misread or misunderstood your post. And no I was more getting at the fact that Warren could come back in his robot form, not that it was the robot version of Warren that Willow killed. It was clearly the really real Warren that was killed, and quite convincingly killed.
Cider | March 29, 02:03 CET
GreatMuppetyOdin | March 29, 02:14 CET
giles (yes, it is my real name) | March 29, 02:42 CET
Vince; Hmmm, well in my main AU furefics Buffy isn't in a wheelcahir but she has a lamed right leg and a stiff left arm.
(so she can bring herself to retire from adventuring and marry the shanshued Angel;he's an addictions counselor, she's a best-selling novelist. Their son looks like him, their older duaghter looks like her and acts like Aunt Cordy, and their younger daughter is a highly imaginative loner who bears an odd resemblance to Drusilla......)
DaddyCatALSO | March 29, 02:49 CET
But why didn't she, is the question. Unless she evacuated then crawled back into the crater, which seems a bit convoluted, but who knows in Joss' world.
Rogue Slayer | March 29, 02:53 CET
You're scaring me.
And that's a lot coming from me,
'cause me: not so much with the sane and unscary.
GreatMuppetyOdin | March 29, 04:26 CET
embers | March 29, 05:03 CET
Not even a problem (reading it back I was a bit unclear ;). Robot form, hmm, definite possibility and it'd actually mean fewer 'holes' needing to be filled in organic Warren's back-story (like how he really seemed dead, was emulated by The First etc.).
So, "Buffy Season 8: Feta"?
Hmm, Buffy Fett(a), cheese bounty hunter. It'd be a different direction for the series, that's fer sure.
Saje | March 29, 12:51 CET
Buffy Season 8: Meta.
Simon | March 29, 15:22 CET
A comment on both your cheeses.
Saje | March 29, 15:46 CET
DaddyCatALSO | March 29, 16:18 CET
Aaargh! Help! Help! A crazed fan fiction author!
Yo, cat, here's an idea: If you're gonna write something so far from the source material anyway, why don't you just create your own universe? Just a thought. I mean, that's the next natural step into the real world of writing.
GreatMuppetyOdin | March 29, 17:01 CET
A comment on both your cheeses.
Saje | March 29, 12:46 CET "
gwoawn
(That's a groan while holding my nose...from the cheeses.)
Anyway, Joss already did his version of Romeo and Juliet. Hmmmm, but what about the rest of Shakespeare? There was a touch of Lear in S7 but there is sooo much more and Hamlet is his favorite. Cheese for thought.
newcj | March 29, 18:27 CET
"To be or not to be, that is the question
That and who left this bloody cheese lying around, Whooeee"
A bit off metre but i've no doubt Joss could do better ;).
Saje | March 29, 18:45 CET
Sunfire | March 29, 21:37 CET