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August 14 2007

IGN review of the Serenity CE DVD. IGN gives the Serenity Collector's Edition DVD the score of 9 out of 10.

Their bottom line: This is a great, wildly entertaining film - accessible to old and new fans alike, to sci-fi fans and western fans and movie fans, in general - represented on a beautifully packaged Special Edition DVD, sporting a top-notch transfer, some strong audio work and a boatload of worthwhile extras. So, the real question is this: What are you waiting for?

I'm just waiting for Amazon to send me the gorram thing!

Edited to move quote to extended.

[ edited by cabri on 2007-08-14 00:51 ]

Two words: Awe. Some.
I just can't afford the price...yet.
Check the rankings, folks. The Serenity CE shot up from #50 to #12 since this morning. Go, baby, go...
Yay, the start of being able to add to session416.com new mentions/descriptions of the Sessions.
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #12 in DVD

Popular in these categories:
#1 in DVD > Westerns
#2 in DVD > Science Fiction & Fantasy
#5 in DVD > Action & Adventure

Spaceships and horses!
Now all I need to know is when the HD DVD version will be released...
Is there any way to determine the sales totals for the first edition of the DVD?
Nebula1400, no. There is no way to even determine the DVD sales of Firefly despite the figure mentioned in the article. DVD sales are top tippy-top secret.
Fu... er... bugger!
I can't wait for that new version of the DVD to come out! :)

With all this attention the new CE version of Serenity is getting, I figured the original DVD would drop in sales on Amazon.com. Yet in the past week it's been slowly going back up and is currently at #127 in all of DVD sales on Amazon.com.
I am in a state of crazed anticipation.
omegabob, the HD DVD version of Serenity is already out... I know 'cause I've got it. But maybe you meant the HD version of the new Collector's Edition, in which case I can't help you.
I am tingling with anticipation.
No. Really. There is tingladge.
I must say that I am very very glad that there was no mind-changing on the "director's cut" thing being that Joss said that the director's cut is the movie that was released. I mean, even this particular reviewer of the special edition says that the cut scenes were rightfully cut.
I don't know what I'm more excited about getting: the commentary with Joss and some of the BDHs; The Green Clan; The Tam Sessions...there's just too much Fruity Oaty goodness going on.
7 days and counting...
(By the way...what are you most looking forward to getting with the Special Edition of Serenity?)

[ edited by AmazonGirl on 2007-08-14 04:53 ]
what are you most looking forward to getting with the Special Edition of Serenity?

I guess most looking forward to the new commentary. Love commentaries. I also want to see this Scifi feature.
(By the way...what are you most looking forward to getting with the Special Edition of Serenity?)

Well, since I've seen everything else that's on it, the cast commentary.

But, given my obsessive pursuit of them when they originally were released, it's safe to say that I'm looking forward to calling up the Sessions on an actual official DVD.
Still at 12.

I am also most looking forward to the new commentaries.

Edit: And I didn't join the pig pile on Lucas. I think I've grown.

Son of Edit: Oops. I missed page two of the review the 1st time around.

[ edited by RBB on 2007-08-14 06:36 ]
Mine was sent on Thursday, got everything crossed that it arrives today!

Good review, though I see they're still reinforcing the "noone was interested in a Firefly movie until the DVD sold incredibly well" myth.
Yeah, I'm to the point now where I just roll my eyes and keep reading, Ghost Spike. You would think someone somewhere at some point would do some research but nope.
There are so many people who truly deeply think that is the only way Serenity was made that it would be impossible to separate the truth from the spin at this point. I'm with cabri, I just roll my eyes, or lay a verbal smack down. I guess it depends on the day.
How was yours sent already? Amazon needs to send mine. I ordered it with 300 and Hot Fuzz. That's going to be a big old geektastic package when it finally gets here. The mail guy is likely to need thicker glasses after handling it.
There are so many people who truly deeply think that is the only way Serenity was made that it would be impossible to separate the truth from the spin at this point.

Well, let's remember that Joss implicitly fuels this belief by suggesting that the sales of the CE DVD might pave the way for a sequel. I suspect that he has said this to encourage fans to buy more DVDs, while knowing that there is very little chance that the DVD sales will actually lead to a sequel. That may sound a little cynical (heck, that's my nature), but I just think that it's part of the business. So, I'm a little more forgiving if people believe the spin despite evidence to the contrary.
I don't expect big sales of the CE DVD to get us a sequel. That's a lot of cash, and the actors are busy.

But I could see an animated series. I really could. And most all of the actors have done voice work before. And Tim's not busy right now...
Or the aforementioned radio plays. I would love a Big Finish style 'Firefly' audio adventure (Big Finish for those that don't know them, produce audio stories for 'Doctor Who', often using the original actors for the voices - for years they were the only non-novel 'Doctor Who' stories being told but it kept the fandom going until the 2005 revival. Or should that be 'regeneration' ;).

And the advantage of animation/audio is that scheduling is more flexible since all the actors don't need to be together to do it and it takes much less of their increasingly valuable time. It's also, obviously, much, much cheaper.

Well, let's remember that Joss implicitly fuels this belief by suggesting that the sales of the CE DVD might pave the way for a sequel.

As i've said before, I don't think Joss is actually implying that, I think he's basically saying "Hope springs eternal and if it makes buckets of cash, someone might notice - but it's vanishingly unlikely to produce a sequel", everyone's take, as we've already established, differs on this point though.
Well in terms of feasibility of sequel, I think direct to dvd is the way to go, especially if Babylon direct to dvd lost tales takes off and other genre stuff(dead like me, sanctuary(web series), farscape mini webisodes)... I think there is a new trend for that. So who knows whats in store for the 'Verse. Oh gosh darn it there is that pesky ... irrational hope, it just won't die dammit!

And in terms of "spin" well one would have to forgive the fans for having such misinformation, when things like that Joss Whedon introduction for the movie that was put on the first dvd, kinda tells or hints at what is considered "spin".

"Failed tv shows don't get made into major motion pictures unless the creator, the cast and the fans believe beyond reason. It's what I felt, its what I've seen, the dvd sales, the booths at the cons run by fans, the websites, the fundraisers. All of the work the fans have done helped make this movie"

"It is in an unprecedented sense your movie..."

"Remember, they tried to kill us, they did kill us and here we are. We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Thank you, for helping to get this movie as far as it has gotten. Welcome to Serenity"

ETA: now while those quotes don't explicitly mean the dvd sales helped greenlight the sequel... that message indidcates that the dvd sales have had an impact... so I can;t really blame people or smack them down for having the wrong information.

[ edited by kurya on 2007-08-14 15:06 ]
I haven't yet ordered mine, because I won't have any money until Thursday. So there are still orders to be made.
Well, let's remember that Joss implicitly fuels this belief by suggesting that the sales of the CE DVD might pave the way for a sequel.

Not to pile on here, but what he says is (paraphrasing) "buy it, because someday, somewhere, someone will realize it's made them money and maybe want to pick it up again".

But whatever one thinks he's said about the CE, he's also gone out of his way in a number of instances -- two of them just very recently -- to debunk the "Firefly DVD sales got Serenity made" myth.

*shrug*

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2007-08-14 16:14 ]
Considering I already have the Australian 2 disc version, I have seen most of the extras on this special edition. However I do want to have the cast commentary, and it will be nice to have the Tam Sessions on DVD. I might hold out for a while to see if there is going to be a R2 release [which is probably a good bet if the R1 version sells well]. If not, though, I'll probably buy this from Amazon.
Hmmm, didn't intend to re-open the debate about whether Joss said a sequel would come from the sales or not. I tried to signal the ambiguity of what Joss has said with my "suggesting." Whether it's suggesting, hinting, hoping, musing, dreaming, joking, maybeing -- my sole point was that Joss has said enough (however ambiguously, with whatever meaning) that we shouldn't condemn some innocent journalist for buying into the myth that Serenity (or any potential sequal) was a result of the DVD sales because s/he didn't manage to find Joss's other statements that it was his continuous behind-the-scenes work that cinched the deal, and that the DVD sales were just gravy. I think we Whedonesquers know the truth of the matter, but then we practically live here. Not everybody does.
*ditto shrug*
Rope of Silicon review baffles me on a personal level because of the reviewer's apparent unfamiliarity with Google, which led them to state of the Sessions that they "got the impression that they were made for the film and never used".
I have to say that normally commentaries bore me to death... (Please note the word "normally") If it's something I'm REALLY interested in, I may watch it with the commentary on just the once.

That being said, there are some exceptions to this rule: namely "Serenity" (the pilot episode) and "Objects in Space" (as well as the BDM, obviously!) These are the only times that I have not only listened to them more than once, but actually several times. This is how every commentary should be done.

I am REALLY excited about the new commentary track - it's just a shame we don't get to hear everybody (although that may just be too crowded).

All I need now is a UK release date!
If there is a special edition with a different ending I might buy it.
If there is a special edition with a different ending I might buy it.

As has been pointed out here before, that already exists: Hit "stop" on your DVD player as soon as the ship safely lands on Mr Universe's moon.
Haunt, that's what I meant. I didn't purchase the HD DVD version as I heard about the CE version a few months ago. Now that the CE DVD is about to be released, I eagerly await Universal's announcement for the CE on HD DVD :)

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