Very brief mention of J Michael Straczynski's interest to work with Joss.
J Michael Straczynski(JMS), creator of Babylon 5, in response to a forum question, expressed interest in working with Joss. Relevant Quote: " I think Joss is a terrific writer and I'd love to work with him sometime on something."
Note to moderators: I am not sure if this is newsworthy, but I just had to squee and share this since JMS and JW are my idols.
September 05 2007
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Then my head would probably explode from joy.
spidermansays | September 05, 17:00 CET
Much like George Lucas (ESB), JMS doesn't direct his best work, while Joss does. It's hard for that not to sound like a slam on JMS, but it's really a tribute to Joss that he's as versatile as he is.
jclemens | September 05, 17:07 CET
And for me, I think JMS is a masterful story teller, very good at incorporating alot of themes and creating a story that weaves through several chapters so to speak. And he makes some interesting characters with dialogue of the operatic kind in that show.
On the other hand, Joss whedon is great at creating very interesting characters that we can connect to, and creating very unoique dialogue(and witty too). For me, I think the two would complement each other... in the ideal case of course. If it did actually happen, well who knows...
[ edited by kurya on 2007-09-05 23:33 ]
kurya | September 05, 17:31 CET
A collaboration between the two would be interesting, but unlikely to ever happen.
crossoverman | September 05, 19:13 CET
adapa | September 05, 21:24 CET
Immortus45 | September 06, 00:06 CET
AnotherFireflyfan | September 06, 00:43 CET
Joss: Innocence, Becoming, Lie to Me, Amends, Dopplegangland, Graduation Day, Hush, The Body, The Gift, OMWF, Chosen. I doubt there's anyone here who doesn't have one or nine of those on their personal "top 10 Buffy episodes" lists. And that's not even counting
JMS: Pick your favorite B5 episode. Unless it's Sleeping in Light, JMS didn't direct it. Janet Greek, Jesus Trevino, or one of a number of other talented directors did.
jclemens | September 06, 01:26 CET
I think B5 had some great dialog .... the lion's share going to Londo and G'Kar .... but a very different style from Joss. Although B5 did have it's share of humor.
A great idea in theory and mutual admiration is there, judging from Joss's occasional B5 reference on BtS. But dare I say .... two (self admitted)control freaks might be one too many. And I mean that in the most complimentry way :)
Shey | September 06, 03:38 CET
On the other hand, JMS wrote nearly every episode of Babylon 5. Joss wrote a few each season. It's not a simple comparison.
Quit | September 06, 04:01 CET
The one that sticks in my mind was from the B5 pilot, when the doctor says "and nothing will be the same again." And as you might guess from the cliched line, everything was the same again for the rest of the episode.
OneTeV | September 06, 08:29 CET
I guess for me, he may not be that great in writing dialogue for simple casual moments, but when they are epic, he writes some of the best stuff. And I think some of the problems people have with his dialogue is that its stylistic...some of it is intentionally over the top... I love it, it can be quite poetical at times. Plus the whole notion of building the story from the first pilot. Having elements in the first season pay off in the 3rd and 5th seasons. He had the basic story from beginning to end right from the start. Aspects change, the order in which events occur change, but from the start he had planned out a 5 year story arc. No small feat, especially in those days when they had to "compete"(when it shouldn't be competition) with DS9 for attention.
And if people are curious, and I find it really helps me understand the various elements in the story and the inspiration and the screwups he admit to doing, check out this episode guide that has alot of quotes from JMS on the forum about each particular episode, its almost like a commentary. Great insight. http://midwinter.com/lurk/eplist.html
And while he may not have directed it, he did write the awesome episode "Comes the Inquistor", one of my favourite episodes and its not the big action episodes.
[ edited by kurya on 2007-09-06 14:57 ]
kurya | September 06, 08:56 CET
flakbait | September 06, 10:45 CET
Dym, That is absolutely true, JMS did a much larger portion of the writing of B5 than Joss did of any of his shows. Maybe the comparison should be thus: JMS has demonstrated an ability to use other directors to stage and present his work, while Joss has demonstrated an ability to use other writers to tell his stories.
(ETA: Typo)
[ edited by jclemens on 2007-09-06 18:31 ]
jclemens | September 06, 12:30 CET
Simon | September 06, 12:39 CET
I don't have a major problem with the dialogue on B5, it always seemed to fit the characters as I saw them.
Joss may have written fewer full episodes than JMS, but if you've listened to commentaries or interviews with any of the other writers, they all seem to say that Joss had a hand in the script; as a matter of fact more than once I've heard even the top writers on BtVS say that when they're complimented on a line, they often have to admit that "Joss wrote it." :)
samatwitch | September 06, 17:28 CET
Shey | September 07, 07:45 CET
Pumps | September 07, 08:16 CET