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November 01 2007

Best News Ever! Joss Whedon Spills Exclusive Deets on his New Series. Joss, Eliza and Tim reunite for new Fox series called Dollhouse. :D Interviews and quotage. Ausiello Report has a rundown on this most awesome news as well.

Other links:
TV Week
Variety
L.A. Times
EW

For you Purple People Watchers, there is now a Joss Posttm in this thread.


[ edited by jengod on 2007-11-01 03:14 ]

[ edited by Damon (zeitgeist) on 2007-11-01 04:34 ] (added new category and merged in many links)

7PM PST on the date of this post here (November 1), or 7PM PST on the day it is in the US right now (October 31)?
In four minutes. :)
She's late. Although I'd bet she's not the one sitting there clicking on the 'update' button.

ETA: SQUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[ edited by cabri on 2007-11-01 03:05 ]
Joss, Eliza, FOX, 7 episode commitment. "Dollhouse".
Cabri, you took the high-pitched sound of geeky delight right out of my mouth.
no words
no words
Wow. F***kng awesome. Not just Joss and Eliza, but Tim too? I could cry.

[ edited by pat32082 on 2007-11-01 03:16 ]
Fox? Fox?

I just don't know what to think. I mean, I am in shock right now. I want to jump up and down, and I'm jumping on the inside...but, FOX??? I don't know. Maybe it's a sexy enough show that it will get good ratings.


OH MY GOD!!!!!
Time to make a new category here, mods. ;) (Done -Damon :))

ETA: And this hits right before we all start showing up in Hollywood tomorrow for Serenity LA. C'mon, Joss, you know you want to come to the parties and beam about this, right?

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2007-11-01 03:21 ]
God, I want it now.
NEW JOSS SHOW! NEW JOSS SHOW! NEW JOSS SHOW!

Bibbildy.

[ edited by lexigeek on 2007-11-01 03:25 ]
Excuse me. I have to call everyone that I’ve ever met right now.

*joins the high-pitched squeeing already in progress, thus causing bats and dolphins everywhere to become extremely confused.*

And Tim, 'cause it wasn't exciting enough already... and it's Halloween, how fitting somehow!


AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

ET: fix the fact that I've been a day off all day.

[ edited by QuoterGal on 2007-11-01 07:25 ]
Great news! Joss+Eliza+Interesting story=Something pretty damn good.
Ohhh...I am so confuse-ed by this. I want to squee - in the most masculine manner possible, mind you - and shout my glee to world...


BUT

IT's FOX!!! Our beloved Big Purple One decreed no more Fox for him when Firefly got shite-canned...but the new show is gonna be on Fox! I am seriously hoping Fox bribed Joss with a butt-load of greenbacks and a signed-in-blood guarantee about how the show will be developed, filmed, advertised and broadcasted;)
Really excited. The premise sounds different. I didn't like the premise of Firefly when i first read it either, but of course that turned out to be gold, so i have much faith.
lol get it...FAITH.
Proud of you, Big Purple Dude, for getting the guarantee that you will be able to finish telling a (seven-episode) story. That is leading with the love pump. Plus: giddy happy for me, viewer-wise.

ETA hint that I'm not an uncultured stick: Is the title in any way a reference to Iben's feminist classic, "A Doll's House"? Cuz if so, I want a star.

[ edited by Pointy on 2007-11-01 03:35 ]
All seven scripts have been written?
No, no—are you kidding? I didn't spend that much time in the bathroom. All seven scripts have been pitched, all stories have been pitched.


Bwahaha!
Ausiello has the story too, and more quotes from his own interview.
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Eliza-Dushku-Lures/800026169?rssDate=12345678

TV Week has it's own interview.
http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/10/joss_whedon_returns_to_fox_wit.php

Seems Joss has been busy the past month or so from the sounds of it.

[ edited by gt0163c on 2007-11-01 03:35 ]
YEE-HAW!! I can't concentrate on anything else right now! YAHOO!


Super big Congrats, Joss. This will be of the awesome. YESS!!
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975136.html
VARIETY: Joss Whedon preps Fox series

http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/10/joss_whedon_returns_to_fox_wit.php
TVWEEK: Joss Whedon Returns to TV with New Series "Dollhouse"

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/10/whedon-returns-.html
LATIMES: Whedon Returns to TV with Dollhouse
The other thread (oy, couldn't we have kept this in one, rather than one after the other?!), Joss addresses the FOX issue:

Great chemistry and intriguing premise notwithstanding, you'd think that after Fox snuffed Whedon's Firefly and hung up on Dushku's Tru Calling, one or both of them would have been more than a little hesitant to get back into bed with the network. "Honestly? Walking back into that building was pretty damn strange," Whedon admits. But "I always had a good relationship with [20th Century Fox], and on the network end, it's a completely new bunch of people, and from what I’ve seen, a fairly impressive bunch."

Dushku seconds that emotion. "I really get the sense that they're committed to [this show]… It feels right."


And she also says this: "It’s going to be pandemonium when this [news] hits."

Um, you think?
Thud.

Joss like opened a door and there was no brick wall behind it.

Whoo-hoo!
*does the dance of joy*

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow...Just....Wow. I honestly never thought we'd see another Joss show on TV!! PS...this is my first post on whedonesque. =D
I can't wait to see if Joss can do it again. Make me love all the characters in the first episode. He did it with Firefly, he did it with Buffy....*still can't believe it*
Oh. My. God. Joss returns to TV? I have been waiting so long for this. This is just - the best news ever!!!!
And I'm guessing the title is a reference to the Ibsen play?
Well good, I was concerned about the Fox thing...now I will proceed with the snoopy dancing (in my Halloween Fiona outfit). Thank You Joss! eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I'm a little disappointed this isn't the Faith spinoff, but I'll watch anything Joss, Tim and Eliza do, and combine them together, it should be amazing.
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.

Anyone know what the best way to clean urine out of upholstery is?
This news has made me so happy I can't describe it. I honestly just can't stop grinning. :)
Could this day get any better? Sugar high, finally got the Whedonesque membership and now a new Joss show!

First post and no words. Figures.
From the interview it sounds like Eliza is co-creator, which is cool.
Since they got a seven episode commitment will Joss try to do a mini-arc so that if it isn't renewed it will still have some closure? Hate to be a pessimist but I remember the Big Purple One saying that the end of Buffy season one was written that way.
How amazing is this??
Gorramnit, gossi, where's the fansite?! ;)
I'm so glad I decided to check here one last time before retiring for the night. What fantastic news!!! All the troubles of the day have melted away in a flash. I am so deliriously happy about this!
*squuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeee!*

Sososososo excited. Screw the pessimism, I just want to see Joss and Eliza back in action on the small screem, I'll take whatever air-time we can get! Let's start the campaigns early and get everyone and their mother watching from the get-go!
Gorramnit, gossi, where's the fansite?! ;)


I know, seriously! It's been an eternity since this news dropped!
Clearly, 5X5B and deadbessie are using magic. :)
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG....more thoughts later....OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG....
This is real? No really real? Seriously? This day just got so much better! The best Halloween EVER!
I'm so glad I decided to check here one last time before retiring for the night.


Same here. I was just about to go tot bed when I decided to give this place one more check and I'm so glad I did.
b!Xy: "Gorramnit, gossi, where's the fansite?! ;)"

Second thing I thought of after I stopped squeeing. :D

First thing: But what about Goners?
*Snoopy Dance*

My first post and all I can think of is SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
*remembers to take a breath- and then adds to general squee of the thread*
OMG!

I always knew that I loved Halloween more than Christmas- and see?? I was right!!
I'll be in my bunk...
Must not scream while costumed children walk by (my first post as well).
I just bought a fansite domain, but I haven't gotten anything up yet... I know, I'm slow...
Joss like opened a door and there was no brick wall behind it.

I dunno, there could be a wall in there somewhere, or maybe a really clean pane of glass.

I want to get crazily-insanely excited, but I just can't (and it's not 'cause of the Fox thing), I think my optimism is broken.

(okay, I'm a little excited, but not as much as I should be considering the talent involved with this show)
QuoterGal, if you need someone to hammer out some HTML and do web pagey stuff, I'd be willing to help.

I'm not much of a designer, but I can program.
I just bought a fansite domain, but I haven't gotten anything up yet... I know, I'm slow...

And I know which one it is. Offer to help stands from me as well.
I know I should be cautious, but... I just have a good feeling about this one.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ifabb1526bf648422a2d53ac7422bd528
HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: Fox, Whedon in "Dollhouse"

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/10/whedon-returns-.html
EW.COM: Joss Whedon taps Eliza Dushku for new Fox series
I think I'm going to cry because I'm so happy. yayayayyayayayayayayayayay!!!
Hey, and I said Joss would have a new TV show on within five years. Turns out, I overshot a little -- it was less than one. No tricks, all treats this Halloween.
Now that he's back on Fox's good side, you'd think he'd be able to get the funding to make those Buffy/Angel TV/Made for DVD movies...
This is about as good as the news can get. I've been hitting the Buffy DVDs extra hard lately, it is so hard to get my fix. Heroes was good for like a second, and comics just aren't my thing, there is a void in my life and it is called Joss Whedon and it is coming, yes definitely, for sure, definitely. And not only that, but I could finally register for Whedonesque.

This is the biggest, baddest news to hit this town since Angel went off the air. I am so excited to hear all about this. I will be stalking here for more.
Are we sure today isn't actually April 1st?
First thing: But what about Goners?


Over at Hollywood Insider I found this quote "The latest rewrite of his supernatural triller Goners for Universal "was not incredibly well-received," he says. "Nothing's happening with it right now. It's not good news, but one door closes, and then there's a draft, and another one opens."
Sweet! Another new Tim show! And that other guy too. :)

That's all I got.
So I was just about to head to bed and then I read this.
Yaaaaay! Now I really cant sleep!
OK Mr. Whedon....get in here and celebrate with us, dear.

I lift my cup of tea to Joss, Eliza, and Tim!! All hail the trinity of TV!
Wow, so earlier this afternoon I decided to watch "Halloween" and "Fear Itself" because it's been a while since I've watched some Buffy and because, well, it's holiday-appropriate.

Then I surf the 'net for about a minute and BAM! Dollhouse.

Best. Halloween. Ever.

P.S. Also my first post.
Um...

*twitch*
I'm so happy.
Congrats, everbeen! You'll be able to say you were there from the very beginning! ;)
Oh.My.JOSS! You bathroom wunderkind, you. Somebody pinch me, please, a Joss Whedon show to look forward to again, or Joss + Tim "m'kay" Minear? And to find out on Halloween night? This is the second best thing that's happened to me this year - it would have been #1 but ... long story.
A new series including my three favorite people in the Joss-verse AND I FINALLY get to sign up for Whedonesque after YEARS of being a silent by-stander. This could be the best night of my life! ...well maybe not, but it ranks at least!
Wow.

I saw this and I couldn't believe it was real at first. Fantastic. If I knew anyone else in real life (besides my sister) who likes Whedon I would have told them all by now.

I'm going to go stare at my Buffy-related merchandise and revel in my own geekiness. Or is it nerdiness?

Also, Whedonesque membership after years of lurking! Yay! Best. Halloween. Ever.
I'm utterly sick right now... stomach flu... puking and nauseous and feverish... and still this news thrills me. The fact that it is on FOX might mean we only get 7 episodes, but who cares: any Joss + Eliza + Tim is all gold. Thank you!!
From the TVWeek article:


TVWeek: "Buffy" fans are sure to be excited, too.

Whedon: If they could only see what’s in my head right now.... They should be.


Excited is an understatement. Second Prize: Whedonesque membership finally!
Thanks, everso Caleb and b!xy (you sly reporter-type, you) - I'm gonna buy some expandable hosting - and get something minimal up this weekend, prolly, but for furthers-on and stuff, programming help and anything else will be mucho welcome. If you'all have any immediate opinions or ideas, please feel free to e me using addy in profile. I am thinking of an info site that gradually expands to a forum...

Welcome, new folkses. It's kinda ass-picious that today is both Halloween and an influx of new... um, blood, don't you think? I'm thinking the interwebs might break, but it'll be fun to watch it...

Won't all the sleepy UKers and other members of Europia, etc. be surprised when they get all wakey-wakeys?
*is stunned*

Congratulations, Joss!! (and us, his loyal fans!)
I'm hoarse from squeeeeeeeing. I just cannot stop.

Welcome to all the new members! So glad you could join on such good news--and what is destined to be one of our lengthier and more memorable threads.

Squeeeee some more!
Still in shock, really. The good kind. Warm fuzzy shock.

Except...

What does this mean for Miracle Man?
*wakes up and look around*
wababahooo....wadsskhfa7..... another joss series??? on tv? reallly????

*faints again*
WOW!!!!

Great news!!!!

Joss+Eliza+Tim

The only thing better would of been if it was the Faith spin-off.

Can't wait to see what they have in store for us.

I also wonder since it sounds like Joss is on good terms with FOX now if this also might mean they might give the BBC the go ahead for Ripper to go forward this summer.

[ edited by Buffyfantic on 2007-11-01 04:43 ]
Holy mother of God and all her wacky nephews! This is the best news I've heard in a long, long time. Welcome home, Joss.
So that's how Faith learned her aristocratic English society skills so quickly.

Also; yay me for finally becoming member after stalking whedonesque for a few years.
Oh, wow.

Didn't see that one coming.

Wicked cool!
This stage of our lives is called...Happiness.
I'm most excited because this news came out of NOWHERE!

Joss & Tim & Eliza & science fiction = WOW!!
Methinks Small Frye and I shared a religious moment.
Question: Will anyone here actually be sleeping tonight? After this bombshell, I actually don't think I can. I might as well go and fire up Halo 3.
Ok. I think I have recovered enough for coherence. Halloween will never be the same again.
Some of us sleepy UKers are still up and very glad about it ;)

Haven't stopped smiling for about the last 15 minutes since I saw the story and I've only just managed not to cry. This is just amazing news and so out of the blue. Still got fingers crossed for Goners and Ripper, but 7 episodes (at least) of TV from Joss, Eliza and Tim is just soooooo great.
Middle of the night in the UK, I think Caroline and Simon are in for a suprise, and very long thread, in the morning...
And can I just say THANK YOU to Eliza? Holy crap, that girl has got some MAD SKILLZ! She gets all pimped up with a sweet deal from Fox. Then what happens? She goes to our man....seriously...would this have happened without Ms. Eliza? After reading all these interviews...I really don't think so. We owe a great deal to Ms. Dushku today. What a woman. I'm not gay, but I would totally make out with her right now.
Trying not to faint...
I'm not gay, but I would totally make out with her right now.


I would have totally made out with her yesterday. Today, I'd likely be arrested for what I'd do. (There would certainly be uncontrollable hugging and possibly some bowing at her feet.)
AWESOME news. I admit I'm a bit iffy about the whole Fox thing, but still. JOSS ON TV! It's like the world makes sense again.
Oh wow. Between this and the Jane Espenson/Rockne O'Bannon series, I am in serious need of a television. Luckily the holidays of sales and gifting are right around the corner.

and all of the sudden, it was locked in, and the rest was history, and we have this crazy, exciting bomb-ass new show.

I just wanted to quote that.

Also: Welcome new members! What an auspicious (but hopefully not asspicious) timing for registration.
A new Joss show with Eliza and Tim and a whedonesque account.

My treat bag is full!
So we're not completely modless then Damon? I'd better behave then and not add my name to the "I'd make out with Eliza" list.

But I would.
Oh, my god.

This is wonderful. I FINALLY get a reg on Whedonesque, I was happy enough about that...

Of course this news is just slightly better.

(and then some nazi came along and corrected your capitalization -ed.)

[ edited by Damon (zeitgeist) on 2007-11-01 05:14 ]
Holy cats!!!

I get engaged last night(my boyfriend asked me to marry him) and now this.......What a great way to end Oct. 2007.

[ edited by Damon (zeitgeist) on 2007-11-01 05:15 ]
Is there anyone out there who WOULDN'T make out with Eliza today?
This is selfish, but today is my 18th birthday and this is the number one news for me. Joss Whedon doing a TV show is what I've been waiting to hear ever since I realized that I took having his shows around for granted when I did.

I know this isn't really original, but seriously. Best birthday present I've ever gotten.
Congratulations SillyD!
I just realized something ... We get to hear "Grr ... Argh" again on a regular basis!!! Oh happy, happy day!

ETA: And congrats, SillyD!!

[ edited by lexigeek on 2007-11-01 05:18 ]
lexigeek - oh you mean not everyone has it as their text message received notification on their phone? :)
And happy birthday Jobo!

(will you people please stop posting new exciting stuff while I'm in the middle of commenting on the old ones)
Something I just thought of. I'm reading others' concerns about the new Heroes character who has a muscle-memory power similar to the one Faith ... er, Eliza ... er, Echo will possess in this show. Not a big deal; the Marvel character Taskmaster has had that particular ability forever. However, there's also a Daredevil character from a few years back who had a similar power. Her name? Echo. Anti-Joss folk will surely be making a stink about that.

Personally, I don't see a problem. It sounds like there's a large grab-bag of sci-fi concepts and themes that will be worked into this show. I doubt Eliza's character will be defined by one "power" or characteristic.
oh you mean not everyone has it as their text message received notification on their phone? :)


Damn, why didn't I think of that!? :D
Its not a unique ability or name, and it wasn't when other people used it either :) Its all about the super awesome execution of the idea!
Best. News. Ever. I feel lightheaded.
Also also: Do muses hide in or around restaurant/bar bathrooms? Which BtVS writer was it who described going drinking with Joss and returning from each bathroom trip to find a new part of the story was done?

As long as zeitgeist is up, we are not only moderated but properly capitalized and punctuated as well. ;)

*checks own post over in attempt to avoid unintentional irony*
I can't believe this, it's a Halloween miracle! There are no words; only ecstatic squeeing and embarrassing dances of joy. Incredibly awesome. I need new words to describe this...but I'm way too excited for the brain to be with the working. Yay! Eliza, Tim, and Joss - I am going to be so in love with my TV.
/grins at Sunfire, but can't recall wich writer it was. I want to hear some names since they mention that other Buffyverse writers would be on tap.
Okay. Must get a Mutant Enemy ringtone.
Its not a unique ability or name, and it wasn't when other people used it either :) Its all about the super awesome execution of the idea!


And if there is one thing Joss Whedon does, it is super awesome execution of ideas. In fact, he should print that on his business card:

Joss Whedon
Super Awesome Executor of Ideas

[ edited by Damon (zeitgeist) on 2007-11-01 04:34 ] (added new category and merged in many links)

New. Joss. Category.
Yeah, z, I've been wondering who they might be as well.

And was that ringtone the regular or the musical version?
OMG! I'm supposed to be working right now. How am I supposed to work when I can't stop thinking about Dollhouse!?!? This is going to be so awesome. The only problem is that it's going to be on FOX! They have so royally screwed Joss and others we Whedonverse peeps love (I have Drive and Nathan in mind right now). I really, really hope that this is a long, long series.
Wow.

I think this is the best possible news INCLUDING news about any Buffyverse-related projects getting produced. As much as I love the Buffyverse, I'm more than ready to fall in love with a new Joss show. I'm never getting to sleep now.
deird - GrrArgh and other things are here. The GrrArgh in question is the non-musical version (named MutantEnemy in this case in .mp3 and .wav). There are some other fun bits of dialogue as well.
Thanks zeitgeist!
Good list Damon. But I have Dawn saying "Holy crap!" as my Windows default stop sound and it never gets old!
Nice, I need to sit down and grab some stuff again some time, those were all froma while back. I sat down and specifically grabbed Anya singing the "Mrs." song for someone more recently :)

ETA:

New. Joss. Category.


Hellz. Yeah. b!X! :)
Holy Crap!!!! Best news I've heard all year!!!! This is the answer to my prayers! More Joss! More Eliza! Great and INCREDIBLY versatile premise! Now if only Echo learns she has a twin sister named Faith...
This is my best day ever! First it's Halloween. Then my very own Whedonesque account! Then a new show!!! My head spun around and then exploded. I'm so giddy I've decided to forget all my ill will towards FOX for at least 24 hours, and just bask in the awesomeness!
Quick, no time to lose! Someone start up the Save Dollhouse Campaign!
Wait....
so....


has something happened?
Holy macaroni ! I so do believe in the Great Pumpkin after this!

I have been a fan of Joss and his work for a long time (like everyone here...) but is it wrong I now have a totally geeky man-crush on him after reading about this new show?

Oooo did I say that out loud?
I also think it's worth noting this bit from the Variety article:

Fox Entertainment chairman Peter Liguori had been prsuing Whedon about making a return to TV for some time, and said he couldn't believe his luck when Dushku brought him in the door.

Sorry, it's not a huge thing, but I enjoy immensely that someone at Fox (even if it was the good one) was encouraging him to do TV again. Everybody loves him.

[ edited by Damon (zeitgeist) on 2007-11-01 05:48 ]
Wait....
so....


has something happened?


Yes, it was announced that Ben is Glory (hits self, "NO! Bad bad bad! STOP IT!"). In serious news, there's also a forum for this over on whedonesque.org, so feel free to chat all about it over there as well when this rolls off the front page.
Ben and Glory are working for Fox?
Seriously, one hundred thirty two comments already? Yeah, sorry... no way I'm wading through all of that before I post. Besides, all I'm gonna do is copy and paste what I posted over on Dot Org anyways.

It's on FOX!?! Can I just ask the obvious here? What in the frilly undergarments of hell does that network do for Tim Minear?!? Why in the name of all that is holy does he continue to suckle at that particular withered teat? For god's sake, man... take a hint. They don't like you. They're fucking with you, dude. There gonna give you three episodes, tops. And you'll probably have to reshoot the pilot at least once just to earn the privelege of being cancelled early.

Good lord... just give up.


Umm... I mean, uh, congratulations. I guess.

Joss addresses this in the links. They've committed to seven eps and as Tim and Eliza have deals with 20th Century, Fox Network will get first look at anything produced.
Oh YippeeYaiYay!!! Now I'll never be able to sleep! I also just popped in for a quick peek before bed - was just on a couple of hours ago! I saw the heading, blinked a few times not daring to believe what my eyes were seeing and nearly fainted because I realized I wasn't breathing!! This is the best news ever!!! Joss and Tim together again with Eliza as the star?! Just unbelievingly frakking fantastic!!
Outta my way, I got here late! What happened, now?

Oh, cool. Wow. Wait, what? WOW! This sounds fantastic! Joss, Eliza, and Tim? Can Nathan be in it, too? Can Wash maybe live this time?

Does it have to be on Fox? They haven't been particularly nice to us in the past...
What are Dollhouse fans going to be called? I vote for "dolls". Don't know what else they could be called.

The more I read about the show, the more excited and optimistic I get. Tim Minear? More Buffy writers? Eliza as producer? Fox Network is supportive? I think heaven got a little bit closer to earth tonight.

First thing on my wishlist is a poster of a itty bitty Joss inside a dollhouse that sexy Eliza is holding in her hands while peering into a window. Hee hee.
I'm so psyched about this announcement... I sent out excited geeked-out emails to anyone and everyone who might care. It will be so great to have Joss on TV again... and with Eliza and Tim? Hopefully we'll have some guest stars from the Whedonverse on Dollhouse, just because it's like tradition to have actors crossover on Whedon shows haha

And I'm also completely ecstatic about finally becoming a member of whedonesque!
Haunt, did you bother to read the bit I included in a comment above, from one of the articles, regarding Joss' response to the FOX issue?
Joss is coming back to television!!!! This is the best new I've heard in a long time!!! I miss his witty writing and dialogue!!! Joss we will definitely be supporting you!!
What are Dollhouse fans going to be called?


I vote for "people who happen to like a really awesome show but totally have other interests and are not at all obsessive and creepy", though it needs a bit of polish. It seems slightly longish and a bit on-the-nose.
That's it! Clearly killing Ben would get rid of Glory and make FOX see sense and do things like air episodes in order. Wow, Giles is a hero on a new level. It explains all of Joss's comments about dealing with new people. ;)
It's. Fox.

How many times are we gonna let them rip our hearts out?
ESG I love that "poster" you described!! Can I have one too?!!
Haunt, did you bother to read the bit I included in a comment above, from one of the articles, regarding Joss' response to the FOX issue?

Not yet. As I said... seriously, one hundred thirty two comments??? I have to work in the morning, there's no chance in hell I'm getting through all those tonight. Sorry.
I vote for "people who happen to like a really awesome show but totally have other interests and are not at all obsessive and creepy"


Second!

It'll look awesome on a T-shirt.

[ edited by lexigeek on 2007-11-01 06:10 ]
Zazzle/CafePress/whoever start printing!!!
I drive home for a couple hours and this happens? I just want to brag a little here. Thanks to one fine lady on the SoCal board, we knew about this over a month ago. And thanks to all the fine folks on the SoCal board, we squeed amongst ourselves and didn't spread the news as was requested. You can check out the links to the news bits here

Sept 27th

and

Oct 8th

And just so you don't have to join to read them, here are the quotes. But why wouldn't you join just to have a chance at getting such cool news first?

"Hey all!

I just got word about a new Joss Whedon television
project but all I know is that it's a one hour show
and has no title yet but has a possible multi-episode
order. (So it's not just a pilot).

When I get more news (that I can repeat) I'll let you
know. :)"

and

"Greetings!

The new project looks to be called Dollhouse. I know
nothing else at this point. :)"


I'm usually not prone to bragging or anything, but I am really proud of our group and had to share.
"Dollhouse fans"? (Please not "dolls.") Is there a Buffy term I don't know? I've seen Buffistas but it doesn't seem to be in common usage.

[ edited by Sunfire on 2007-11-01 06:13 ]
Although the AICN talkbackers aren't the most lovely bunch all the time, someimes they do make me laugh

"So it's Paycheck meets Matrix"
I know Kung Fu ... I have forgotten Kung Fu
Awesome awesome news. Joss back on TV? And Tim and Joss working together on a project? Can this get any better???


BTW, the Hollywood Reporter link killed my browser with (ironically) pop-ups for antispyware (riiiiight). And I am using Firefox! Anyone else having issues?
Not yet.

Not to be cranky again here, but do those reacting without actually reading the news at issue understand that the last thing this TV show deal needs is a bunch of Joss' fans automatically going "EFF FOX!" in response? If you want to have that opinion, fine. But at least have it after you read up and know what you're talking about.
"You can't take the sky from me... or my Dollhouse"

-Said in a Manly way, of course. :)
That's big news to keep a secret. I'm really surprised it didn't leak from anyone at all. Good for the So Cal fans! I had no clue this was coming.
AnotherFireflyFan - that's hyper lame so I've removed their link. They'll get no tasty ad impressions on the backs of our browsers/referrals :)
After digesting this wonderful news for a couple of hours, I'm now feeling ... torn. Yes, a new original series is the best thing ever -- I'm sure most of us prefer our Whedon in TV form -- but Goners has such a good premise.

My brain is getting seasick from all the back and forthing. I'm even kind of hoping for a strike now, so I can pretend Goners is still on the front burner for a few weeks. Or months.
A name for fans? Hmm... The Dousers?
No no no Dousers, lexigeek and I have already ordered the new t-shirts.
Best news in a long, long time! I'm so excited for a new Joss show!

Too bad it's early morning here and I can't call anyone without waking them up :)
How sneaky-quiet is that man? All the interviews he's done over the last few days, and not ONCE did he let it drop that there was a new TV show on the horizon.

O Master of Suspense, so glad you'll be entertaining us via TV again. I hope it has a long, fabulous run.

(Looks meaningfully over at Fox)

Yea!
I am just too thrilled to take this in! Most exciting news I've heard in the last two years, at least.
"___________________________"
(infrasonic squeee)

My congrats to all three partners. The fact that the story actually gets to be told in its entirety, is a very good sign. The described staff changes at fox gives me renewed er...'faith'... in the vulpine network and even more so in the future of the partnership.

I am very pleased that three such powerfully creative people are working together on a project. All the best!
first off, lemme just say how happy I am that I was let into this wonderful community, I've read this blog for months waiting.. and now on this most auspicious day I get to do this..

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Gee... that was nifty.

Also, please, please!! tell me that fox well not cancel this, that was the FIRST thing that I thought of, so all you seers out there start prognosticating! Now, as for you Big boss man, let me just say that you work is amazing, priceless and frakking awesome on top of that. BUT THIS! sneaking it up like that and releasing it on halloween, seriously! holyhead freaking harpies batman that is just too much! ok done now... hopefully you guys won't kick me out now.

ps. did anyone post about azura skye on bones last night?? I didn't see anything about it. ._O

(see http://whedonesque.com/comments/14534 -ed.)

[ edited by Damon (zeitgeist) on 2007-11-01 13:39 ]
Exciting news indeed!!
Happy! Happy! Happy! I was hoping that all of these recent interviews meant he was up to something.
This comment is going to get lost in the shuffle but I just had to give opinion of this news: This makes me so excited I don't have the words...Dsjkfhjdsnjsdgnjsn WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
theonetruebix makes a very good point-- let's not create a self-fulfilling prophecy here. "I'm not going to watch because they're just going to cancel it and I don't want to be hurt again" is the insane logic of trolls (and I hear, false bixes). I see suggestions of that idea brewing here and there, although not the full argument appearing yet. It's Brand New FOX People, says Joss Whedon. So Brand New Optimism is what this project deserves.

Edited to correct descent into incoherency.

[ edited by Sunfire on 2007-11-01 06:38 ]
Oh my god. Omigodomigodomigod.
TVWeek: Since it’s the topic of the hour, any thoughts on the possible strike?

Whedon: I don’t have any terribly original ones. I do know this: The studios are very entrenched and the issues are very crucial. I dislike the idea of the strike because it’s going to hurt a lot of people I love. But if it’s necessary, we’ll go all the way with it. Because we’re talking about the future of media that didn’t used to exist. And if we can’t get a fair deal on that, then it’s just not worth it. Next year, you’re going to see a lot of new novels."


Will one of those new novels be from Joss?

Writer's strike. *sigh* I want a new show from Joss in the spring! *whines* Oh, I support the strike, I'm just impatient.

New FOX People, says Joss Whedon. So Brand New Optimism is what this project deserves.


Hear, hear!

[ edited by ElectricSpaceGirl on 2007-11-01 06:44 ]
Not to be cranky again here, but do those reacting without actually reading the news at issue understand that the last thing this TV show deal needs is a bunch of Joss' fans automatically going "EFF FOX!" in response? If you want to have that opinion, fine. But at least have it after you read up and know what you're talking about.

1. As if FOX has ever listened to a single word I or any other Joss fan has uttered for the past decade? Why the hell would they start now?

2. I did not say "EFF FOX!" I commented on the way FOX has treated Tim Minear in the past... and I find it hard to believe I'm the only one making such comments.

3. What I said was that I hadn't read all of the posts before mine, not that I hadn't read the news story itself.

4. Despite it being 12:30 in the morning and me facing a full day of work tomorrow on something along the lines of five hours of sleep, I did indeed browse very loosely through all twelve gazillion posts prior to mine. And I didn't read a single thing that would have discouraged me from making the exact same comments I made.

5. Chill out. My snark and ire were directed at the past and proven track record of perhaps the most widely maligned TV network... not at you, or Joss, or Tim, or Eliza. I've issued no threats or called anyone in particular any dirty names... unless you count "withered teat". I'm permitted my pessimism just as everyone else is permitted their giddy and trusting optimism. In the end we'll see who is right I suppose. (I'm predicting that end will come much sooner than the optimists, of course. ;)

6. Eat cake.

7. The cake is a lie.

[ edited by Haunt on 2007-11-01 06:49 ]
Sorry I'm late, but I have this job. This proposed series looks great, and it may be a variation of "The Pretender", only this time Eliza pays someone who can just pretend because being herself is something she can't be.
Too bad a dumb ol' writer's strike has to keep this from really happening, so let's hope for a quick end to this, and get this "Dollhouse" built.
I want to see the poster Joss made with photoshop on his own PC.

As long as it has a Llama.


And a couple of the articles suggest the new girl on Heroes with the "Instant Learning" is the same but I don't think so. This is a character being programmed with a complete personality, skills and all, not just someone learning a new skill. Plus the whole "Forgetting" thing.
Okay, wet blanket guy here, 'cause optimism? Brand-new or not, not my thing. Any happy dances I do will be after I see Dollhouse in my newspaper's tv schedule. No, not even then. Maybe after the credits roll on the first ep, and I know it wasn't preempted for sports or a reality show.

There've just been too many announced projects that haven't come to fruition and my poor heart can't take being used as a yo-yo any more. Along with that, it's looking more and more like Goners is exactly that. So, mixed feelings.

I realize that actual contracts have been signed, but we've got the writers' strike coming up and that could last who knows how long. Also, I'm not sure what a seven episode committment means - that they'll all actually be aired or just that they'll be produced? And if they're not all aired, would they bother with a DVD release? I'll watch whatever they give me, but I smell a lot of ifs coming off this plan.
Haunt said:

5. Chill out. My snark and ire were directed at the past and proven track record of perhaps the most widely maligned TV network... not at you, or Joss, or Tim, or Eliza. I've issued no threats or called anyone in particular any dirty names... unless you count "withered teat". I'm permitted my pessimism just as everyone else is permitted their giddy and trusting optimism. In the end we'll see who is right I suppose. (I'm predicting that end will come much sooner than the optimists, of course. ;)


I understand your scepticism, however, Joss and Eliza have both stated that everyone at Fox are new people now and they really same to care about the project.

Whilst nothing in this business is certain, I don't think Joss would have even considered doing this if he thought Fox would screw him over again like they did with 'Firefly.'
zz9: "I want to see the poster Joss made with photoshop on his own PC Mac.

As long as it has a Llama."

Oh, me, too, zz9, abso-tutely. (A tiny little llama doll.) I mean, I'd love to see it, even if llama-less.

In fact, if he let me put it on dollhousefans.org, I could die happy would have to invent a new word for "thrilled."
Oh my Joss. (Joss being God in my world.)

*jumps up and down* It's my birthday present!! I knew people wouldn't forget me!

This is even a better birthday than the one where I got a boyfriend and an awful president.

Halloween FTW!
Joss caused a power outage on my block. I either blame him or Daylight Savings Time moving. (I mean seriously, since when are they allowed to move DST around as they please)


Anyway, after hours of speculating in the dark, I've decided I really like the concept for Joss Whedon's Dollhouse (not that there's any doubt). It leaves good opportunities for episodic storylines, Fantasy-of-the-Week stuff. There will of course be character growth. And the idea that every episode can be different from the next rocks my world. Desert episode one week, mermaid episode after that.

I can't wait for this one. It better happen. And I better have electricity when it does.


{eta} There's already a Dollhouse category for Whedonesque! Rock on! I also wanted to add congratulations to Eliza and the Timster.

[ edited by Arabchick on 2007-11-01 07:21 ]
Given the specifics and the tone, I guess Haunt didn't read the comment of mine to which they were responding, either (in addition to not having read the actual full news). You know, since I expressly said in that comment that anyone should feel perfectly free to have their opinion about FOX, but they should at least have the decency to read up on the issue beforehand. (Point being, at the time of Haunt's original comment, they hadn't yet done so. Same holds true, still, for others.)

Anyway, I will stop. But it should have come to no one's particular surprise that I'd chime in with the suggestion that people at least read up before going off. Seems kind of common sense, really.
Hey, welcome to my time zone. Great news, y'all.

And who the frak got welcometothedollhouse.com before I could get my hands on it?

Funny, I opened up registration on a whim yesterday afternoon.
Wow, a new Joss show and finally being able to register with my favourite site, im so happy (and so unable to focus on the exam study i should be doing...)
This kinda makes up for the feeling of let-downedness after finding out that Alan (+/- Nathan) was overly optimistic in his appraisal of the Serenity Sequel Situation.
wow, what awesome news !! *does tap dance of joy*

I just bought a fansite domain, but I haven't gotten anything up yet... I know, I'm slow...

QuoterGal, if you would like free domain hosting with all the needed features and your own control panel just let me know, i have room for you on my server.
Happy day, happy news, happy thoughts!
I'm so late to this but: OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD.

My day, my week, my MONTH has been totally made.
So when are we going to hear more on this? I want specifics, people. I refuse to do the dance of joy until I get specifics.:D
1. Best Halloween ever.
2. I'm still mad at Eliza for doing Tru Calling instead of FtVS, but this goes a loooooooong way toward redemption. =)
3. Agree that Echo is different from the new girl on Heroes (which I've given up on, btw).
4. I don't think the fandom needs a name. If one emerges organically (like from the content of the show we haven't seen), great, otherwise I don't think it should be forced.
5. Someone asked, a 7 episode order means 7 produced, not necessarily aired.
6. We all realize why Fox cancels more Joss/Tim shows than anyone, right? Because they PICK UP more Joss/Tim shows than anyone. It's so easy to bash Fox, and they have some major league screwups on their record, but who's to say how those shows would have fared on NBC? CBS? ABC? No one can say, cause no network other than Fox has picked up a Joss/Tim show in this millenium. Me? I'm completely network-agnostic. If they put a good show on the air, I'll watch it.
7. For anyone who's in an Eliza mood, here's a long interview with her that was previously posted here. She comes off as so smart, cool, friendly, and beautiful. I've almost forgiven her for FtVS...
Golly, I can say with all honestly that this was probably the last thing I expected to see shining off my screen when I clicked over to Whedonesque today...



*shock*
im very happy about this, but part of me cant help but feel sad. it kinda means Angel wont be coming back, especially if Dollhouse is a long-running show.

i guess on the other hand Fox might love the show so much they'd want him to do that friggin miniseries in the mid season or something. If Heroes is doing that Evolutions thing then i guess they might have time for something like that.

maybe i should just accept that Angel probably fell on his sword in that alleyway after about 5 seconds.
As happy as I am that Joss is coming back to TV, I can't believe he is going to be doing a show with Eliza, Tim Minear, and supposedly other writers from Buffy and the show isn't about Faith. Don't get me wrong, the show seems interesting and I will watch every episode, but a Faith series would have been without a doubt the best news I have heard all year and would have completely changed my life.
Yeah I understand what you mean about Ats, and really, any hopes of any more Buffyverse- related shows at all. I'm so happy to get anything from Joss, but it does seem like the final nail in the coffin.

Though Joss deserves to be able to move onto other things outside of the verse, like he did with Firefly/Serenity, and I'm sure 'Dollhouse' will be truly awesome. And we still do have Buffy season 8 and Ats: After The Fall and maybe 'Ripper' as well.
I thought Joss swore never to work with Fox again.
Well, vocah, Angel After The Fall starts in about a month. It would be beyond words amazing if Dollhouse could be a huge breakout hit and the ratings are so good that Joss could finally get the funding to do either a TV movie or theatrical film with Buffy, Angel, and/or Spike.
I thought Joss swore never to work with Fox again.


My wife said the same thing, but I don't recall him ever saying that. Obviously he's had some less than kind things to say about them, but I don't remember ever hearing (or reading) that he flat-out refused to work with them again.
im very happy about this, but part of me cant help but feel sad. it kinda means Angel wont be coming back, especially if Dollhouse is a long-running show.


Well, I think David Boreanaz being on Bones is one reason why Angel won't be coming back, but also because it was cancelled 3 years ago. Ship has sailed, and that's very unfortunate because I loved that show more than anything.

Dollhouse also means Faith the Vampire Slayer won't be picked up, and Firefly won't get renewed for a second season. Crap.
WHOA.

Something happened on Hallowe'en this year!
I thought Joss swore never to work with Fox again.

Apparently everyone who crapped all over 'Firefly' no longer are in charge, and the new people seem really enthusiastic over 'Dollhouse',according to Eliza.
Any proper thoughts are being drowned out by the multiple delirously happy E's screaming through my mind.
Which BtVS writer was it who described going drinking with Joss and returning from each bathroom trip to find a new part of the story was done?

It was Drew Goddard.

This would be the day that I decide I'm in the mood for a new book and don't go online all day :)

I'm finding the new series hard to picture from what's said in the links about it, but that was true of BtVS and Firefly, too.

O horrible timing! Joss speaks of the strike as a done deal and I'm sure he's right. The talks broke down again today, the contract expired twenty minutes ago, and they'll probably strike after their meeting tomorrow. Still, "light at the end of the tunnel" it definitely is!
I'd hate to use the word "sell-out" but couldn't he have taken this to any other station and not the one he swore never to work with again?

And COME ON! Eliza + Joss + Tim Minear. They could've gotten a Faith show if they wanted to. :( Especially right now with shows like "Heroes" being popular. Damn.