Want to meet Jane Espenson? She'll be marching at Universal.
Jane will be marching Monday morning. Posted at her blog: "And if any of you are in Los Angeles, and want to show support, or just learn more about the issues, please come out and join us. I personally intend to be at (well, just outside of) Universal Studios tomorrow from nine to one, along with other writers from Battlestar, Eureka, CSI and Desperate Housewives -- drop by and say "hi." Or drive by and honk."
And screenwriter Alex Epstein suggest stopping by as a great way to schmooze with the top writers. Show your solidarity and meet your favorite writers!
Updated: Please feed the writers! We're taking collections to send pizza to the strike line. Details in the comments.
[ edited by C. A. Bridges on 2007-11-05 05:36 ]
November 04 2007
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About membership.
Y'know, I bet this strike is gonna have the best worded picket signs ever in the history of anything. ...and Espenson's HOT.
ZachsMind | November 04, 18:48 CET
crossoverman | November 04, 19:07 CET
resa | November 04, 19:11 CET
embers | November 04, 19:17 CET
MySerenity | November 04, 19:20 CET
[ edited by impalergeneral on 2007-11-05 01:47 ]
impalergeneral | November 04, 19:30 CET
RavenU | November 04, 19:33 CET
This is a great idea, RavenU.
What's been most amazing since the announcement of "Dollhouse" and how quickly a new fandom is forming is that it really comes back to the fans of Joss respecting his writing, his craft. Yes, we will have to wait longer because of this writers' strike - but we are also committed to the show - before knowing anything more than the premise, because we love the writer. (And also, there's Eliza Dushku fans, too.) But this sort of grass roots support for a show that is nothing more than a pitch and a premise should show Prod Cos and Studios that we love writers and what they do.
crossoverman | November 04, 19:40 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 19:57 CET
The address is:
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
They're meeting at the Metro stop on Lankershim & Campo de Cahuenga (NW corner).
FOX demo tomorrow is at:
10301 W Pico Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90064
Meeting Point: Main Gate on Motor Ave. & Pico Blvd.
I've no idea if anybody Whedonversey will go to the FOX demo, but it wouldn't surprise me.
[ edited by gossi on 2007-11-05 02:15 ]
gossi | November 04, 20:15 CET
Better to send to the strike line or the meeting spot?
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 20:41 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 20:47 CET
k8cre8 | November 04, 20:55 CET
I can do it. If we order delivery, it will probably have to be from a chain, blah. And there should definitely be one with anchovies for JE.
I think it's time to let the producers know that we are paying attention and we are supporting the writers.
I want to help there, too, Raven. Keeping in mind I'm no Internet wiz, let me know what I can do.
dreamlogic | November 04, 20:59 CET
palehorse | November 04, 20:59 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 21:09 CET
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electricspacegirl | November 04, 21:10 CET
RavenU | November 04, 21:26 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 21:32 CET
deird | November 04, 21:34 CET
You can never have too much pizza, right?
zz9 | November 04, 21:41 CET
How much pizza?
How much for an individual contribution?
Where to buy the pizza (locals)?
Do we want a sign to say who it's from, and if so do we want to pay for that from the funds?
Ideas?
dreamlogic | November 04, 21:57 CET
crossoverman | November 04, 22:00 CET
Reddygirl | November 04, 22:04 CET
Unless we have an insider with the WGA and the master assignment list we don't know how many people will be at the studios picketing, but I think it's safe to say that on the first day, attendence will be high. I'd like to see a pizza pool start for the Universal lot, with fans with different show preferences organizing for other lots (mainly because I don't think dreamlogic wants to spend the day driving pizzas all over town :) ). If we collect a ton of cash for the pool, add water bottles or sodas or we could contribute it directly to the WGA.
I'd go with local pizza, personally. Same reason I make cards instead of buying Hallmark.
If a sign is necessary, I don't see where we need more than "Whedonesque.com is with you" or something on posterboard. We're not looking to impress, just to support.
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 22:06 CET
ladygrey | November 04, 22:08 CET
peachgirldb | November 04, 22:19 CET
BDHser writers.... And dreamlogic is right, don't forget the anchovies, Jane Espenson will appreciate anchovies!embers | November 04, 22:28 CET
I wish I could contribute to the fund but I'm poor and the holidays are coming up. The most I can do is root for the writers and be with them in spirit.
electricspacegirl | November 04, 22:28 CET
newcj | November 04, 22:28 CET
Depends on the number of people picketing.
How much for an individual contribution?
$10, however many donate will determine the number of pizza as well.
Where to buy the pizza (locals)?
Whoever is good as well as close to the various studios.
Do we want a sign to say who it's from, and if so do we want to pay for that from the funds?
Flyers on the pizza boxes.
Something like.... "Your fans from whedonesque.com. You feed our need for good entertainment we desided to return the favor our way. We also want you to know that we the fans support your effort."
I think we should concentrate on FOX and UNIVERSAL picketers, right now.
[ edited by RavenU on 2007-11-05 04:32 ]
RavenU | November 04, 22:30 CET
dulce_serenidad | November 04, 22:32 CET
RavenU | November 04, 22:33 CET
I'm only committing to tomorrow at Universal for now.
No, only paypal for now.
dreamlogic | November 04, 22:37 CET
What kind of sign do you want to make?
RavenU | November 04, 22:44 CET
Edited: oops, didn't see your post, dreamlogic.
[ edited by orphea on 2007-11-05 05:12 ]
orphea | November 04, 22:47 CET
MindEclipse | November 04, 22:49 CET
dreamlogic | November 04, 22:59 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 23:04 CET
deird | November 04, 23:10 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 23:19 CET
k8cre8 | November 04, 23:23 CET
I've just sent mine! Thank you dreamlogic for doing this!
embers | November 04, 23:26 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 04, 23:34 CET
Brilliant, guys. Just brilliant.
UnpluggedCrazy | November 04, 23:39 CET
mei_mei | November 04, 23:41 CET
Oh, and please make sure the strike is actually happening, Variety is reporting they met today for negotiations that could delay the strike, but no word yet on the outcome.
ETA: RavenU just confirmed in the other thread that it's definitely on so ignore second para. ;)
[ edited by cabri on 2007-11-05 05:54 ]
cabri | November 04, 23:52 CET
Can I suggest waiting two or three more hours to get Caroline's okay to publicly use Whedonesque.com? I know it's a good cause but I'd rather run it by her first before printing any posters.
Edited to add: Sent money. Big thanks to Dreamlogic. Let Jane and all the other writers there know that we're behind them.
[ edited by zz9 on 2007-11-05 06:15 ]
zz9 | November 04, 23:58 CET
That's perfect, David! Now I want a Gentlemen costume.
WhedonTrivia | November 05, 00:45 CET
dreamlogic | November 05, 00:46 CET
Lunakitty | November 05, 00:51 CET
Lunakitty | November 05, 06:51 CET
Really? I don't know. Faeries aren't my thing. Neither are dolls. LOL. Just kidding. Joss is a god.
WhedonTrivia | November 05, 00:54 CET
Thanks, all!
I love us, too.
[ edited by dreamlogic on 2007-11-05 07:16 ]
dreamlogic | November 05, 01:12 CET
Brian Lynch | November 05, 01:38 CET
I'll just send my love and support through the cosmos instead.
Love's Bitch | November 05, 01:39 CET
dreamlogic | November 05, 01:55 CET
We'll drive by CBS Television City and Paramount on our way to the offices tomorrow and do some loud-ass support honking...
QuoterGal | November 05, 02:31 CET
samatwitch | November 05, 03:42 CET
Can permission be warm? Well, as long as the pizza is hot.
Caroline | November 05, 04:13 CET
Good luck to all, and be sure to use a lot of sunscreen.
embers | November 05, 04:28 CET
If anyone else is inspired by dreamlogic's sterling effort, BTW, i'm in, hell i'll even kick in an extra quid for some garlic bread - it's the future, i've seen it ;).
Brilliant idea folks.
Saje | November 05, 04:56 CET
If you didn't hear from me at tonight's final party, I'm recruiting those late-departers to hit the picket lines with the writers. I'm going to try to have something posted in my window at the Orchid Suites (room 104) before I go to bed for the night,
ETA: To be clear: Whatever the numbers of people I get to show, I am not leaving LA without walking the line with Jane.
ETA 2: Shortly going up in my window: The WGA list of picket sites, martked up to show where Jane, Brian, and Brian will be.
[ edited by theonetruebix on 2007-11-05 11:25 ]
@theonetruebix | November 05, 04:59 CET
electricspacegirl | November 05, 05:26 CET
It's amazing to see fans from all over the world supporting their cause.
Numfar PTB | November 05, 05:33 CET
There will be.
@theonetruebix | November 05, 05:35 CET
Bayta | November 05, 06:53 CET
What a great idea, though. Kudos and a huge thanks to all involved.
Can't speak for others, but I sure would be more than happy to chip in for a 'Welcome Back, Joss' Variety ad once we have a launch date for 'Dollhouse'. Any creative people that can come up with designs in the next, say, six months?
Cough*Hint*Cough
missb | November 05, 07:52 CET
It's just so cool that the writers are getting support, sometimes it must seem to them that fans only recognize and appreciate the actors. Well, not the writers who are aware of sites like whedonesque, but in general.
And I would die to meet Jane, & if Joss happened to turn up ... or is Joss in the U.K.?
Gods but I love this fandom, many thanks DLand RavenU and everyone else in the area, doing the hands-on.
Shey | November 05, 08:11 CET
Unfortunately, I'm not volunteering to organize this (mostly cause I'm in Texas not LA or NYC) but I'd certainly be willing to make donations.
Any local people willing and able to organize this?
gt0163c | November 05, 09:10 CET
dreamlogic | November 05, 09:34 CET
Thanks for taking this on, DL and Chris and everybody else who chipped in. You're dolls.
gossi | November 05, 09:57 CET
dreamlogic | November 05, 10:00 CET
I don't have the moolah to make a donation, but I just wanted to say how great it is for you guys to do this. I know the writers will really appreciate it.
deepgirl187 | November 05, 10:25 CET
ThereUR | November 05, 10:53 CET
Drop me a line and ask me for my mobile number, anyone who thinks they may have a need for it in future. :-) I'm in another time zone than most of you, but don't mind a text or call for important stuff.
Caroline | November 05, 10:55 CET
kurya | November 05, 11:00 CET
dreamlogic | November 05, 11:05 CET
Nebula1400 | November 05, 11:18 CET
[ edited by C. A. Bridges on 2007-11-05 17:50 ]
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 11:23 CET
I can't do vegan. The veggies from my pizza place are not that great, so I'm planning to order just cheese for non-meat eaters.
I have about an hour before I need to place that order, so if people want to input, I'm planning to order;
3 large pepperoni
3 large sausage
3 large cheese
1 large anchovy (y'know, for Jane)
ETA: Meanwhile I'm standing by on the sign issue.
[ edited by dreamlogic on 2007-11-05 17:31 ]
[ edited by dreamlogic on 2007-11-05 17:32 ]
dreamlogic | November 05, 11:27 CET
Which can very quickly get you to something like this -- sorry I don't have time to clean it up myself this morning. Well, one pass... but its not gorgeous :)
zeitgeist | November 05, 11:28 CET
Yep, I couldn't :o)
gossi | November 05, 11:28 CET
Thanks for doin' this!!
ETA: Gah, I just saw the post about not sending any more money, sigh. Ah well, keep it anyway. It's only $5 and I won't miss it.
[ edited by rockgoddes on 2007-11-05 17:36 ]
rockgoddes | November 05, 11:33 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 11:41 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 11:50 CET
dreamlogic | November 05, 11:57 CET
embers | November 05, 12:06 CET
Love's Bitch | November 05, 12:07 CET
And love the poster!
[ edited by zz9 on 2007-11-05 18:12 ]
zz9 | November 05, 12:11 CET
gossi | November 05, 12:15 CET
Simon | November 05, 12:23 CET
k8cre8 | November 05, 12:33 CET
buffyfanatic18 | November 05, 12:43 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 13:06 CET
/reminds self to make logo for press usage.
Caroline | November 05, 13:10 CET
(Aside: I also considered using text from my own scripts as the background, since hey, buncha people in the business, nothing to do but read the flyers, you can't buy that kind of exposure! But upon reflection I decided it would be... what's the word... oh, right. Tacky.)
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 13:17 CET
Something is kicking about in my head about this. If viewers start siding with the writers, that's gotta be something, right? I mean, in terms of studios thinking 'Hang on, what the hell is going on?'.
gossi | November 05, 13:22 CET
We could always refuse to watch media that doesn't play fair. I'll bet if page views at the network websites and sales at iTunes start dropping they'd pay attention.
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 13:27 CET
I'd be interested to see if there's any support of the idea of banners and such for fan sites, saying 'we support the strikes' (or whatever) whilst they're on. I think the studios will be presuming fans won't like the ideas of strikes, not understanding the writers are kinda key to shows.
[ edited by gossi on 2007-11-05 19:31 ]
[ edited by gossi on 2007-11-05 19:32 ]
gossi | November 05, 13:30 CET
Something is kicking about in my head about this
I was wondering if a striking writer could write fanfic based on his/her show and put it online.
Simon | November 05, 13:43 CET
Lioness | November 05, 13:50 CET
gossi | November 05, 13:54 CET
It also helps that Whedony fans tend to be more writer-conscious than most folks :)
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 13:59 CET
Fun quote from the LA Times' writers strike blog: "Dozens of red-shirted Guild members bearing strike placards have massed at each of Fox studio's four entrances, snarling traffic along Pico Boulevard and Century City's Avenue of the Stars. In this part of the city, with its heavy focus on the movie industry (and those who love it), the supportive honks are so constant, the sound from a distance is like a din of white strike noise."
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 14:08 CET
The good news is that is a little chilly and overcast at the moment, so the kickoff pickets do not have to be held in the usual SoCal blazing sun - though that'll burn off soon.
If we didn't have *sigh* actual paying clients expecting us to meet their deadlines, we sowould be at the Paramount gate right now, and we do plan to join them at some point during the upcoming week or weeks.
And oh yeah - there's honkage all 'round.
QuoterGal | November 05, 14:12 CET
All the fans here have shown what big hearts and minds they have (though I knew that already...). What a sound fandom.
Solidarity and the best of luck to the striking writers - the sooner you win, the sooner you can get back to doing what you love and we love you for!
fangless | November 05, 14:21 CET
As someone who has had to cross picket lines to go to work multiple times, I will say that I've gone out of my way to use a plant entrance that has a traffic light. There's always less of a backup to get into and out of the plant at those gates. (Not that I would do so in this case. Different industry completely and much different issues.)
gt0163c | November 05, 14:32 CET
And re: Starfury, yeah. I asked Sean last night if I could post a rundown of what people are doing and where Whedony writers will be to the con boards. He not only said of course but told me to post it to the UK one in addition to the USA one.
Now I must go check out of my hotel.
@theonetruebix | November 05, 14:33 CET
You've got to applaud his convictions. It's just a shame what he has to give up so all writers can earn the livelihood they deserve.
rbt | November 05, 14:44 CET
jam2 | November 05, 15:08 CET
@theonetruebix | November 05, 15:09 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 15:27 CET
Man, I'm wiped. If I do this again, I demand an assistant. Ten large pizzas are frakkin' heavy. And of course there was no close parking. It was fun, though. I didn't see Jane Espenson. The strikers were in groups at every entrance. I told the coordinator at the HQ area that the anchovy one was for Jane, don't know if she got it. The writers that I did talk to were very appreciative. They were kind of confused though - "Joss Whedon sent us pizza?" "No, his fans" - I don't think most of them were familiar with the idea of TV and film writers having fans. The sign came out nice, and it's laminated, so reusable if we do decide to do it again. I forgot to take my camera, but a couple of writers took pictures of the sign. Maybe they'll end up online.
Now, a nap.
dreamlogic | November 05, 15:30 CET
@theonetruebix | November 05, 15:30 CET
dreamlogic, I'm just finding out now if she got it.
[ edited by gossi on 2007-11-05 21:40 ]
gossi | November 05, 15:37 CET
(Sings)Anchovies, anchovies, you're so delicious. I love you more than all the other fishes.(/singing)
Maybe other writers will now be thinking "Fans? Writers on Joss Whedons shows have fans? I gotta send him my resume!"
zz9 | November 05, 15:41 CET
kurya | November 05, 15:42 CET
MindEclipse | November 05, 15:46 CET
Hmm. Think I'll have pizza tonight...
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 15:51 CET
C. A. Bridges: "I don't think the whedonesque flyer would work, that small, but we should be able to make an I Support the Writers Strike avatar..."
Very quick-and-dirty wga-support avi. I made it on the (relatively) large side, but you can re-size it as needed...
(And thanks, dl.)
QuoterGal | November 05, 15:51 CET
Not expressly Whedonesque, but very straightforward.
[ edited by C. A. Bridges on 2007-11-05 21:52 ]
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 15:51 CET
Zannadoo | November 05, 15:53 CET
gt0163c | November 05, 15:55 CET
Simon | November 05, 15:59 CET
And crap, now I really gotta run, 'cause a deadline looms and I am so humped.)
QuoterGal | November 05, 16:07 CET
Sunfire | November 05, 16:11 CET
rbt | November 05, 16:18 CET
The studios know that if they give way to the WGA now they'll have to give way to SAG next year. There is a lot of money at stake, and hopefully SAG will side with the writers now.
zz9 | November 05, 16:18 CET
C. A. Bridges | November 05, 16:22 CET
James Gunn had some pointed things to say in his blog, I am loving hearing all the support, but I did want some photos of our beloved writers picketing!
I hope that the response and support show to the writers will convince the studios and networks that they HAVE to compromise, they have made it clear that they are the bad guys here (not that there was ever any doubt).
[ edited by embers on 2007-11-05 22:36 ]
embers | November 05, 16:23 CET
electricspacegirl | November 05, 16:26 CET
I'm so proud to be a part of this fandom! I love you guys!
Harmalicious | November 05, 17:05 CET
And so it was actually the studios that walked out of the last minute negotiations ? That's not the impression you get from reading most of the articles about it - very sneaky, underhanded move.
Also, and by no means least, well done dreamlogic, nice work. Sure, it's probably deeply unhealthy from a psychological point of view but i've found very few situations that aren't improved by the addition of a large Pepperoni with extra mushrooms ;). And an army marches (or pickets) on its stomach after all.
Saje | November 05, 17:07 CET
kurya | November 05, 17:25 CET
And, get this -- pizzas were delivered to me and to the other strikers down by the main gate by the generous readers of Whedonesque.com! Whoo! Pizza! Thank you, my people! You're making this bad sitch a lot more comfortable.
and ends, as usual, with lunch:
Lunch: pizza with anchovies, delivered specially for me to the picket line. Beautiful! Thank you!
You're welcome!
zz9 | November 05, 19:18 CET
rockgoddes | November 05, 20:06 CET
newcj | November 05, 20:09 CET
electricspacegirl | November 05, 20:24 CET
billz | November 05, 21:23 CET
If someone plans to do more for the strikers this week and you need some Paypal assistance, please post. I'll try to follow more closely!
Tonya J | November 05, 22:22 CET
Sarah Connor Chronicles has no writers left. The Office is closed for the duration. Also, reportedly Tim Kring would not provide a season-ender rewrite over the weekend and "is now off HEROES." That "off HEROES" sounds pretty ominous but probably just means for the duration of the strike.
cabri | November 05, 23:02 CET
embers | November 05, 23:24 CET
cabri | November 05, 23:36 CET
Oh, good. You have no idea how hard it was in a dark nightclub to try to even find the people I knew, in order to try to get them to go out there today.
@theonetruebix | November 06, 00:13 CET
toast | November 06, 02:03 CET
Nah, mean psychological (the whole associating food with good times thing, "comfort eating" do they call it ?). The physiological badness is practically what makes it worth doing in the first place ;).
(and don't think we didn't spot you sneaking in at the back of the room young billz, with your links and your comments - good to see you fella ;)
Saje | November 06, 02:25 CET
narnia | November 06, 05:42 CET
I did cry. Embarrassed now.
Shey | November 06, 06:24 CET
Nikki Finke's blog reported:
I can do more rumor-busting. Today urgent emails circulated claiming that Heroes hotshot Tim Kring was "fired" by NBC. A source close to him told me tonight Kring was "stunned" by this rumor. "Couldn't be farther from the truth. Honestly." The insider thinks the rumor came from Kring's decision to honor the strike this week and walk the picket line. "Maybe somehow that came out as some kind of contention with his employers. It's obviously not aimed at the people at the network and studio with whom he has such a wonderful working relationship. I know how it looks to be picketing your own network and show, but it's really about making a stand with his fellow writers over what he believes are some very serious issues. Hope that clears it up for you."
so it is good to have that clarified!
embers | November 06, 10:50 CET