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December 21 2007

"Sarah Connor Chronicles" website revamped. The website has 'officially' opened, now with several videos, 34 new posters (from the contest?), and an animated, floating, armless Summer! (Um.)

Armless terminator Poster Summer? Pretty cool.
Armless terminator Floating-in-the-middle-of-the-page Summer? More than a little creepy.

They also are allowing voting of the final 5 posters: http://www.fox.com/terminator/contest/

Can't say that I'm impressed. Annoyed and creeped out, yes, but not impressed.

Did any of our folks make it into the final 5 of the poster contest?
Wow that circly eye thing is really annoying me.
The posters definitely aren't from the contest because mine isn't in there they use images that weren't in the approved image packs provided by Fox.

kvmc, I don't recall when they said they would notify us, so I don't know if my entry made it or not.

[ edited by lexigeek on 2007-12-21 18:18 ]
I really don't like that graphic of Summer's swinging torso. I find it disturbing, and not in a good way.
I don't see any familiar ones in the final five.

They also are allowing voting of the final 5 posters: http://www.fox.com/terminator/contest/

Ah, I guess that answers that question. Oh well.
Jeez, that's very Borg Queen.
I don't like the circly eye thingy either, though I find the Summer-torso morbid and creepifying in a "creepy, but kinda badass" way. Summer's torso without any limbs could still kick all of our arses! And, well, if it failed for some reason it could always annoy us to death with the circly eye thingy.
Well, they're certainly trying some new stuff with this one - they've got a viewer editable Wiki, viewing parties, viewer created posters..

Summer's either in a hit TV show with this one, or a really big flop.
Vampire terminator? What?
I love Summer and I'm excited about the show, but the disembodied female torso stuff kinda squicks me out.
You're not the only one. The debate has been raging on a feminist blog over the implications/interpretations. Myself- undecided but watching because of Summer regardless.
Oh, good. Another boob related image for people to accuse of having sexist implications. Despite the fact that if it had been a guy hanging there with his pecs on display for all to see then nobody would care. And before anybody points out that a guy's naked chest isn't seen as sexual, I'd have to say that whilst it has never been "wrong" to show a guy with his chest exposed in the media, I would say that a girl (or gay guy) is just as turned on by a decent male chest as any guy (or gay girl) is turned on by a nice pair of boobs.

Society has chosen to "sexualize" the female chest but ultimately both men and women are stimulated by a well developed chest, no matter what gender they personally like. That being said, if we are going to have a problem with anybody seeing this image of Summer as a sexual thing then we are also going to have to complain the next time that David Beckham, Robbie Williams or any other guy uses their naked upper body to sell a product. If we don't have any complaint with a guy's chest being used to sell a movie poster, cd cover or whatever else, then we can't then say that using a female chest for the same reason is wrong. Because that is simply the flipside of sexism, to me.

As for the image in question, as long as Summer has no problem with it, then neither do I. It's her body and really only she should care how it is represented.

Damn, I promised myself no more boob talk at Whedonesque! :)
Oh, good. Another boob related image for people to accuse of having sexist implications. Despite the fact that if it had been a guy hanging there with his pecs on display for all to see then nobody would care.

This doesn't mean the double-standard is right. I would equally be offended by a dismembered male figure in the same situation.

As for the image in question, as long as Summer has no problem with it, then neither do I. It's her body and really only she should care how it is represented.

Unfortunately, this is not how things work in the real world. FOX has created that image and Summer's personal feelings likely have little bearing on FOX's use of that image.

Regardless, if Summer thinks it's okay, doesn't mean I can't still be offended by it. A lot of actors and directors make terribly exploitative films - I still hate them, whether or not they approve.
This doesn't mean the double-standard is right. I would equally be offended by a dismembered male figure in the same situation.

In which case, to you there is no double-standard (or at least the double-standard isn't what bothers you) as you are offended by the nature of the image, rather than the supposed "sexuality" of it, which wasn't the point I made.

My point was to those that are making a big deal about this in regard to it being a female image when a male image in the same situation would likely have gone without mention. Obviously that doesn't apply to how you personally feel about it.

Unfortunately, this is not how things work in the real world. FOX has created that image and Summer's personal feelings likely have little bearing on FOX's use of that image.

True enough, but again not my point. I never claimed to know that Summer approved of the image or absolutely hated it and it's very true that Fox probably wouldn't need her approval regardless. What I'm saying is that unless Summer happens to be the one doing the complaining about how she is represented then I'm happy to let it go. If she came on here and said that she was firmly against the image, then I'd have a problem.

Regardless, if Summer thinks it's okay, doesn't mean I can't still be offended by it. A lot of actors and directors make terribly exploitative films - I still hate them, whether or not they approve.

Which is fair enough, but that is where our opinions differ. I see that image and believe that there is only one person in this world that needs to care or be offended by what it is, and that is Summer Glau. For me, she is the only person on the planet that has any real reason to worry.

Now, if it was a photograph of a real human body that had been sliced and diced for the sake of "art" and then strung up and put on the internet, we would all have a reason to be worrying. A fake image of an actress who is clearly representing a cyborg in a science fiction show, however? Not really worth my time or effort to be offended.


[ edited by Tonya J on 2008-01-10 03:27 ]

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