I'm really looking forward to this show.

Awesome | December 27, 21:52 CET

I love that even Terminator can prompt a Buffy reference in a review.

Raggedy Edge | December 27, 22:29 CET

Raggedy Edge: I thought the same thing....Buffy always seems to show up unexpectedly. Also, the first episode is available online, has been for at least 2 months. ...Not that I'm condoning illicit TV watching. Bad!

5X5B | December 27, 22:37 CET

So the fact that because of the strike the showrunner wasn't in charge of finishing the pilot episode didn't harm the end result? I guess that's promising, but I'm not sure for whom.



Is that the unfinished version in which part of it took place in a school? Because that's been reshot. I was not aware that the final version had been leaked.

[ edited by electricspacegirl on 2007-12-27 20:34 ]

electricspacegirl | December 27, 23:30 CET

electricspacegirl, it is certainly distressing.

IrrationaliTV | December 27, 23:33 CET

Yeah, I admit I saw the leak, but if anyone from Fox is reading this, thanks to the leak, I will be watching the premiere!

And yeah, from what I heard, they changed the pilot from what was leaked, but if the new version is at all similar, it should still be awesome!

Also, very cool... this is the first story I've ever posted!

nathanieletc | December 27, 23:51 CET

I think I'll wait on this series and see how it fares. I'm tired of getting into a show and then watching Fox kill the series and breaking my heart (Firefly, Arrested Development).

thepikey | December 28, 00:01 CET

I'm definately going to be watching this. Does anyone know, what with the writers on strike, do they get paid for new episodes airing on TV? I know the writers don't get paid for the online TV episodes, but should I feel bad about watching regular TV?

KLeigh | December 28, 00:12 CET

The promotion for this show is in full swing.

Kristin over at E! also likes TSCC. She rates it #8 in her list of new and returning shows to watch in '08.

Summer and Thomas Dekker were interviewed last week on Good Day LA. (video interview)

[ edited by misnomer on 2007-12-30 02:20 ]

misnomer | December 28, 00:28 CET

I wish shows like these would premiere in Europe the same time as in the USA, it would create a serious buzz to keep them running. Now all we have is a premiere in the States, and hopefully it won't be cancelled like a lot of shows.

Krusher | December 28, 02:46 CET

I've been really anxious for this. The time travel rules of the first few movies being bent and broken is distressing for the geek in me, but I still can't wait.

JerrodBalzer | December 28, 03:23 CET

Sigh

So many of the commenters are saying they're going to download the show & then buy the DVD, not watch it on FOX.

First: That won't "teach" FOX a thing about screwing around w/shows. If anything, they'll use it as an "excuse" to make direct-to'net programs.

Second: They're so not supporting the striking writers by doing that. (Then again, I doubt those folks really care about the writers, judging by their comments.)

Thirdly: If you can find a third point, go ahead & post it. My brain just shut down.

ShadowQuest | December 28, 03:36 CET

If anything,I would think this series has a good shot with FOX especially since Terminator 4,5 and 6 are coming.The fourth film,"Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins" is being directed by McG and Christian Bale recently signed on as John Connor.I would thik the cross promotion between the Terminator series and the new Terminator film would be too great for a studio and network not to take advantage of.

Buffyfantic | December 28, 03:59 CET

And if everyone approached watching TV that way, all shows would be dead in the water. I believe in supporting promising shows and giving them a chance. I'm not as afraid of missing something I had than I am of not having it at all.

electricspacegirl | December 28, 04:29 CET

ShadowQuest:



I wish I had FOX on my cable, but since I'm from Europe, It's a no go. I've seen tons of great series gone unaired, cancelled (Joan of Arcadia, Dead like Me and more of those) so I initially download the series, to figure out if I like the show. Weeds, Bionic Woman, Cane, all great, but what can I do to support anyone? Spread the buzz? A lot of the series in the USA aren't available in Europe to begin with. I love Veronica Mars, but can I buy it on dvd here? No. Can I buy Joan of Arcadia here? no.
That's regardless of the Writers Strike, which I totally understand and support.

Krusher | December 28, 04:33 CET

ShadowQuest, here's a third point: If people don't watch TV and instead download the show, they are using the form of the show that the writers do not receive any payment for (let me avoid ending this sentence with a preposition). If an episode is run on TV and then rerun, the writer receives a sizable residual. Unlimited runs on the Internet...not so much.

swanland | December 28, 05:03 CET

I got hooked on Buffy because RM episodes where available. Guess what, I bought the box set, and the book form dvd's. Downloadable stuff make titles known. World wide.

Krusher | December 28, 05:16 CET

Right... watch the show, get into it and then watch Fox pull the football out from under you and not care. I'm not Charlie Brown and I'm not going to let it happen to me again (i.e. Firefly and Arrested Development). I also don't have a Nielsen box so Fox doesn't care what I watch or if I'm upset when they begin the Fox cancellation two step and I call or email my support for a show. Been there done that. I'm still amazed at how many people think Fox has changed it's ways.

I do wish the new series success. But, it won't last on Fox. Here me now... believe me later.

thepikey | December 28, 06:39 CET

I'm sorry I came home cranky. How does a newbie delete or edit a post one regrets? :(

thepikey | December 28, 06:52 CET

I've seen leaked the pilot, it was pretty good so I'll give the series a shot. Hopefully it won't be canceled after 3 episodes...

ONI | December 28, 14:15 CET

Virgin 1 (in the UK) have been advertising this show since they launched several months ago, so I would think we in the UK will get it fairly soon after it airs in the US. And Virgin 1 is on Freeview.

Cider | December 28, 17:18 CET

Think you have to wait a few days after joining until you can edit your posts thepikey but until then the standard procedure is to send a cheque to charity to make up for it. If you just make it out to the Campaign Against Sclerotic Homeopaths (they go by their initials) and send it to me i'll make sure it gets to them ;-).

Basically, if you download a show illegally when you couldn't do so legally AND/OR don't have a Nielsen box or are otherwise measured as part of the US viewing figures then it makes absolutely no difference to the survival of the show (OK, it might help marginally because if you enjoy it and post online you may encourage others to check it out, similarly I guess if you don't enjoy it and post about that it might discourage folk).

How people feel about the morality of it aside from practical considerations is obviously a personal issue though.

The time travel rules of the first few movies being bent and broken is distressing for the geek in me, but I still can't wait.

Hmm, they seemed in fairly bad shape anyway (even in the first film) having either outright paradoxes or narrative inconsistencies depending on how you look at it and given that "The future's not set, there's no fate but what we make" then travelling back and monkeying with the timeline can have pretty much any effect the writers can reasonably convince us of.

Saje | December 28, 17:55 CET