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January 28 2008

Top 20 Geek Movies Of All Time. Guess what movie came in at number 5. The "Little Ship That Could"!

[ edited by zeitgeist on 2008-01-28 04:45 ]

Good to see they got number 1 and 2 right. Can't stand Spaceballs, a much better example of a geek comedy is Galaxy Quest. Have to give them A+ for putting in Akira and I think only half of the Alien Quadrilogy deserves to be in this list (sorry Joss). I'd chuck Office Space and Repoman and add in The Thing and Robocop.
Yeah, Spaceballs is not all that good. Mel Brooks peaked in 1974 (with Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles) and has honestly been kinda downhill since. I'm glad to see Serenity do well.

And yes, 1 and 2 are definitely right.
It's good to see it so high, but to be honest I am a little disappointed. In all honesty (and i know they are classics and NOBODY is going to agree with me), I have found Blade Runner and 2001 to be two of the most BORING movies ever made. Apologies to Ridley Scott, whom i love, but I hate seeing them top any list. Unless its a list of boring movies. Sorry if you love those movies, its a personal irritation.

Also, definitely add some Robocop.
No Buckaroo Banzai? Overall, not a bad list, though.
Pongluver, I have not seen Blade Runner, but I agree with you that 2001 is super boring.
Blade Runner is the single greatest film ever made and 2001 is one of the few times the media has transcended itself into being something that is pure art (but still manages to have a beautiful narrative running through it.) Also both movies have the most beautiful images ever put on film.
Spaceballs is classic comedy gold. It's not my favorite Brooks movie (that would be Blazing Saddles), but its hilarious and it has heart. Office Space is a generational defining comedy, and maybe one of the most stolen from comedies ever made. Repo Man was one of my favorite movies when I was younger, I mean Secret Agent Man sung in spanish is worth watching the movie on its own.
I must say I think you people are crazy, but I guess that's what makes life worth living, everyone is entitled to their own opinin. Except in the places where they're you know not, but we don't talk about those places.
OT did anyone see how much money Meet the Spartans made at the BO this weekend? That's really sad. But I guess when you have an advertising budget that is bigger than the entire budget to some of the greatest films ever made it's hard to do bad at the BO. Le sigh.
If Office Space qualifies for this list, I think Monty Python and the Holy Grail does, too. Nothing says "geek" like listening to somebody quote entire scenes verbatim.
To true about Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I'd have added Wizards too, but that may be a "generational" thing too. Good list, and I'm glad that I can claim to be a geek (17 of the 20, plus Tron).
I've seen so few of these movies that I probably shouldn't even be allowed to post at whedonesque anymore.
I'm a little disappointed in myself.
But Galaxy Quest and Monty Python should have been there.
Don't say that, Xane, just do the watching. I agree about The Holy Grail. Galaxy Quest I'm not so sure. It's fun but seems kind of focus-group conjured.
Xane Don't feel bad - I've seen Serenity, the LotR trilogy, the original Star Wars trilogy, TWoK and the first two Alien movies. That's it.

Of course, I watched each of the LotR films at least twice in the theater, and own not only the theatrical but also the extended versions of all three (Well, the extended DVD of RotK, still need the theatrical), as well as the soundtracks, watched Serenity & own it (And the soundtrack, theatrical lobby poster, postcards, keychain & BROWN T-shirt), and have seen WoK and Star Wars enough times to count for the...what? ten we're supposed to have seen. (Ok, yes - I do own every single Star Trek movie. So?)

So...just...be creative, and you'll count as a geek, too. :-)

Besides which - I think anyone who can name four writers from any one of Joss's shows (Not counting Joss himself) or six episodes from each of the seasons is automatically a geek.
Actually, I'd have to say seeing 2001 is practically a geek requirement (with possible allowances for ages under 21). And thinking 2001 is not boring is pretty much geek certification. =)
2001 is not boring, but trying to understand it if you're not into to it is sort of taking a class with a philosopher/writer who has his own problems. I repudiate the idea of geek certification.

[ edited by dreamlogic on 2008-01-28 09:57 ]
'2001' isn't boring but it is kind of ... stately IMO, until the last act anyway. It's not exactly visceral, edge of your seat stuff. 'Bladerunner' pretty much is though, don't see a charge of boring sticking there at all (usual caveats about equines and their chosen routes apply ;).

Not seen 'Pirates of Silicon Valley' but I can live with 19 out of 20 though I can't, for the life of me, understand why 'Hackers' or 'Short Circuit' are on there when 'Sneakers' isn't - funny and warm and well performed, great little film and apart from the one leap about factoring large primes and a few 'cinema enhanced' displays, it's also actually pretty realistic (both from a plot and characterisation point of view).

Still, though I might juggle the order and swap a couple, it's not a terrible list all in all.
Spaceballs shouldn't have been on that list. I agree with a few others here that Galaxy Quest was far better. I only found 2001 interesting after watching 2010.

I'm pleased to see Brazil made it on the list.

I absolutely loved Tron as well as War Games both of which I watched at the cinema and these two films got me interetsed in computers in the early 1980's although after watching The Wrath of Khan on VHS in the mid-1980's, I became more interested in space engineering, the industry I eventually ended up working in.

Come to think of it, it's amazing how many of these 'geeky' films influenced my decisions and future career.
The thing about 2001. It's one of the movies that really loses a lot on smallscreen. Big hi-def tv or a video projector, and a good sound system, is pretty much required for full appreciation of it.
'Wargames' was a big influence on me too (it'd definitely be higher on my 'Top 20' list) and it was probably a bizarre combination of that, 'Doctor Who', 'Blake's 7' and 'Columbo' that steered me into IT.
I'm actually surprised I've seen 17 out of 20. I think Serenity made the list because of Joss's geek cred. Otherwise, why not a half dozen other SciFi films? Not that most are as good as Serenity. ;-)
Hated Spaceballs. My ex was watching it & I wandered off before it was over. And I agree with Saje that Sneakers was better than either Hackers or Short Circuit, neither of which I liked that much.

I must have a really strange mind because 2001 made sense to me the first time I saw it, a theater revival on a glorious old-fashioned Cineramma screen. I was mesmerized.

I agree that Galaxy Quest should be on the list, that's a glaring omission. And Brazil is just a no-brainer for any list of most anything.

ShadowQuest I thought of eight jossverse writers off the top of my head. On a good day I could probably name 90% of the BtS eps, (100% of seasons four through seven, almost for sure), all of Firefly (easy because there are so few) and maybe half of AtS eps. Not sure what that says about my capacity for being obsessive ;_)
Right from the beginning it was often recomended that 2001 be seen while under the influence of something. Not sure what that says about those of us who enjoyed it without the need for enhancements but it does suggest that it is not for everyone.
Right from the beginning it was often recomended that 2001 be seen while under the influence of something. Not sure what that says about those of us who enjoyed it without the need for enhancements but it does suggest that it is not for everyone.

Lioness | January 28, 14:02 CET


I am so not going to comment on that. ;-) But I've seen it many times and although I've played around with some points, I always come back to the same place with it.
Walking out of the theater with my boyfriend (at that time) I asked him "so what did you think?". His reply was "beats the hell outta me." Which I think was the beginning of the end. :)
Well, I think that's my geek card repossessed for only having seen 10 on that list. Then again by ShadowQuest's specifications I think I'll snatch it back again. Heck, I remember my brother doing one of those facebook tests that said if you had seen five episodes of Buffy you were a geek.

Ditto on the War Games love, I can't even count how many times I saw that as a kid.
Yeah, where's the love for Python? I'd love to see the criteria that whichever site is using to create these lists. Also no love for THX1138 or Silent Running. Time Bandits. ~~ Sigh
People that don't give 2001 A Space Odyssey (1968) and Blade Runner (1982) the credit they deserve show overwhelming ignorance of Science Fiction film history. 2001 gave birth to Space Opera (Star Wars) and Blade Runner gave birth to Cyberpunk (The Matrix). You can’t compare these films side by side you need to look at them from an historical perspective.
'Bladerunner' arguably gave a look to cyberpunk, a set of visual tropes but it didn't give birth to it - stuff like 'The Shockwave Rider' by John Brunner and 'True Names' by Vernor Vinge were both around beforehand. Even in cinema 'The Matrix' owes more to stuff like 'Neuromancer' (and 'Alice in Wonderland' and a slew of other influences) than it does to 'Bladerunner' IMO.

I agree that '2001' showed that space films were possible though, it was groundbreaking, no question.
Zoix_Fan, While i agree 2001, made Space Opera's commercially viable in film, leading to the financing of Star Wars, the space opera was long established on Television with "Star Trek" (1966) TV and "Flash Gordon" (1954). The latter cited by George Lucas as his main influence while writing Star Wars. So it didn't give birth to space opera's.

And, the fact that:

THX1138 (good call TonyaJ)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial
The Day the Earth Stood Still

Were not on this list, while Hackers, RepoMan, Office Space, Pirates of Silicon Valley are, is a far bigger travesty than the argument that Blade Runner and 2001 are boring.
No Ice Pirates? Seriously no Ice Pirates? The movie that inspired Serenity and The Matrix didn't even get a mention. This is a travesty of the highest order. And I should know, I own Lifeforce on DVD.
There's a DVD ? *goes to play.com*

...

I concur, no "Ice Pirates" is up there with Rwanda or Kosovo. Quite frankly I am appalled and I post on the internet.

(and bonus geek points to anyone that actually knows what [the fuck] "PC Load Letter" means, without Googling ;)
Personally I think that 'Galaxy Quest' is a genius film, with one of the greatest casts ever assembled (and 'Space Balls'? Really?), but for the most part I like the list. Of course I'm always thrilled to see 'Serenity' getting the love it deserves.
I recognize that 2001: A Space Odyssey is important in the history of the genre. It still bores the hell out me. I also get very easily bored in modern art galleries, but think art history is pretty interesting.

Moral: Many things that have cultural value do not entertain me. And that's ok. I expect 2001 to be high in a list like this, and deservedly so, but I will choose MST3K over it every time. Even amongst geeks there is variance.
How did I know Lifeforce would be brought up again? Only singular because of the vampire space chick menfolk swoon over while the women are stuck with Steve Railsback ... Oh, the humanity
Seventeen and a half out of twenty-one (I still have only seen bits and pieces of Office Space). Good list, too; almost half the films on it fall into my All-Time Favorites list. Bonus points for Pi, which I saw three consecutive days when it was in theaters. Still, for it to be a true geek list, there would have to be a lot more esoteric titles; the Skull and Bones Club has nothing on a group of comic-reading IT nerds when it comes to exclusivity.
PC Load Letter: Paper Cartridge (is empty, please) Load Letter (size paper into it).

Why is didn't say "Paper empty" I'll never know.
Whew, I've seen 15, I don't have to hand in my card. Of those 15, though, I could definitely do without Office Space, Brazil, and Blade Runner.

Massive props, though, for Planet of the Apes, Alien, Star Wars, The Matrix, Metropolis, 2001, and of course, the BDM.
I forgot to express agéd solidarity with Kyrax about Wizards. You damn kids haven't seen anything. Get off my movie lawn!
I was just advised of a likely candidate for this list that I'm both surprised and disappointed I didn't think of - Real Genius. A movie not just for geeks but about geeks, with Val Kilmer as the ubergeek. I think I need to update my Netflix queue.
No Forbidden Planet? Monsters of the id? Robby the Robot? Anne Francis? C-57D?

Plus it's basically the original Star Trek movie. ;)
Roland (cool nick, BTW), Good call. Real Genius could and should replace Short Circuit.

Shey I'm with you. I first saw 2001 at the Seattle Cinerama in... 2001! The only downside is that dinner lasted longer than expected and my friends and I arrived late and had to sit off to one side... Was really rather distracting to have the Discovery looking bowed.
PC Load Letter: Paper Cartridge (is empty, please) Load Letter (size paper into it).

Ooh so close, you can have the points zz9 but no mini Mars-bar (it's "cassette") and yep, more modern printers have such hard to fathom messages as "Load Tray 2 - A4" which makes sense to, y'know, humans. Clearly, in earlier iterations someone let the firmware programmers write the error messages. Stupid someone.

(one of my favourite error messages ever ? "An unknown error has occurred". Yep, thanks for that, very worthwhile ;)
Dark Star tickled me back in the day. Dan O'Bannon and John Carpenter were co-authors - who can resist?

[ edited by m'cookies on 2008-01-28 22:23 ]
one of my favourite error messages ever ? "An unknown error has occurred". Yep, thanks for that, very worthwhile ;)

Remember the mythical poetic ones? "Such a large file. It must have been very useful. But now it's gone."

m'cookies, I've still never seen Dark Star. And here I am berating youngsters for their ignorance. *feels shame*
I hadn't seen those dreamlogic but, as usual, Google (and Snopes) provide. Some of them are actually pretty decent Haiku, I like
Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
But we never will.

and
The Tao that is seen
Is not the true Tao - until
You bring fresh toner.

;).
No Mars bar? :(

(one of my favourite error messages ever ? "An unknown error has occurred". Yep, thanks for that, very worthwhile ;)

As I've said several times on Whedonesque, the sound file on my PC for any fault or error is Dawn saying "Holy Crap!"

My favourite haiku from that list:

Windows NT Crashed
I am the blue screen of death
No one hears your screams.
Heh, I forgot they were supposed to be haikus. My remembered one doesn't scan.

A crash reduces
Your expensive computer
To a simple stone.

I could have been spared a lot of useless effort by that one, once upon a time.

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