Whedonesque : Comments on 15486 : TV Guide's favorite TV couples poll.

I feel like a traitor, but I voted Luke/Lorelai.

It's not that I like Gilmore Girls better than I do Buffy--that is far from the truth--but I honestly prefer the Luke/Lorelai coupling.

Now, if it had been Willow/Tara, Willow/Oz, or Willow/Xander...

(Apparently Willow got all the best romantic relationships. Well, except for that one in S7.)

UnpluggedCrazy | February 12, 23:28 CET

David and Maddie. Pre-doing the do they were sizzlin'.

(and Mulder and Scully were a couple for about 5 minutes, right at the end, before that they were partners that would happily die for each other, and all the better for NOT having a romantic relationship IMO)

Saje | February 12, 23:38 CET

Laura Holt and Remington Steele.

htom | February 12, 23:54 CET

I voted for Buffy and Angel. It's nice to see after all these years that they still make this type of list. Even if it's only for fun.

maje | February 12, 23:56 CET

Scully and Mulder.

Angel and Buffy... were just depressing.

filops | February 12, 23:56 CET

I voted for Kevin and Winnie. Their love was epic-er than any of the other couples. It was so sweet from the first episode, the kiss on the hill, to the last episode, where they did the do. It also the fact that it hearkens back to my childhood.

crazygolfa | February 13, 00:00 CET

Mulder and Scully. The phone call in "Chinga" comes to mind.

Sunfire | February 13, 00:08 CET

Mulder and Scully.
It's not even a question.
Now, if the Doctor and Rose had been there, then it would've been hard.
I like Buffy and Angel, just not as much as other couples. and i liked Spike better.

okelay | February 13, 00:14 CET

I didn't know who to vote for. Honestly, romance in a show is the last thing on my mind. Relationships on the other hand is something else. I do think there is a difference. If there's a relationship AND a romance then cool. So I flipped a coin between Luke and Lorelai and Buffy and Angel, the Ross and Rachel choice almost made me cry and Lucy made me giggle. I almost did vote for her just for the sake of the memories.

Mirage | February 13, 00:21 CET

I voted for Buffy/Angel out of loyalty, but the Huxtables were a close second for me. I wish they would have included Paul & Jamie from Mad About You, or Dan & Roseanne from Roseanne.

chance | February 13, 00:24 CET

Ooo, hard choice. It would have to go to Buffy and Angel for me, though Mulder and Scully are a close second. And I love Rob and Laura, too--The Dick Van Dyke Show was awesome.

Dizzy | February 13, 00:28 CET

Given the forced choice system, I had to go for Rob and Laura Petrie, with the Ricardos as second choice (were the Kramdens on there? I forget) because I guess if it's a title character show, the couple has to include the title character.

But to me Willow and Tara will always be the Greatest On-Screen COuple Ever, or at worst second to Hepburn and Tracy who had the unfair advantage of being real.

And there was nothing on their comments pages where I could post about this topic!!!!

DaddyCatALSO | February 13, 00:29 CET

I voted for Mulder/Scully. Ross/Rachel was my second choice. Never was a huge fan of Angel/Buffy. Now if they would have offered up Spike/Buffy, that would have been a totally different story.

luvspike | February 13, 00:32 CET

If Willow and Tara had been a choice, they would have easily trumped Buffy and Angel for me.

Dizzy | February 13, 00:32 CET

Almost every couple on the list is comprised of a man and woman with the same level of emotional maturity, life experience, capacity for self-determination, prior shared experience and commitment to friendship etc - except for Angel and Buffy. If the latter is the 'romantic' ideal, well, I'd be happier alone.

baxter | February 13, 00:41 CET

I voted Buffy/Angel, but I was tempted to vote Lucy/Ricky. For those that haven't watched the old episodes of I Love Lucy, their relationship was really sweet. This is high praise coming from me, since I usually hate the idea of '50s television.

And honestly, my favorite Buffyverse relationship has to be Angel/Cordelia.

deepgirl187 | February 13, 00:44 CET

I voted for Cliff and Claire Huxtable. I think they're the best couple on that list.

Also, I loathe Buffy/Angel with the passion of a thousand burning suns.

menomegirl | February 13, 01:08 CET

Voted Buffy/Angel

Buffyfantic | February 13, 01:14 CET

I voted for Buffy and Angel. Only because Jack and Ianto weren't on the list.

Tee | February 13, 01:20 CET

Angel/Cordelia.

Ah, so you're the one :)

I loathe Buffy/Angel with the passion of a thousand burning suns.

That seems highly energy inefficient. You should try hating them with the soothing warmth of a compost heap. Plus, bonus thematic tie in with dead things!

zeitgeist | February 13, 01:32 CET

I suppose you couldn't really say that Spike and Buffybot had a relationship.

I'd say "The Relationship I Was Most Dead-Wrong About" would be Joyce and the guy she started seeing just before he died. I was sure there was something sinister about him; maybe he was involved in her death? Classic Whedon misdirection/sucker-punch.

"Creepiest Relationship" would be Spike and Drusilla.

Lots of possibilities here.

filops | February 13, 01:40 CET

Personally my all time favorite romantic couple on television were those lovely British people on the Tasters' Choice commercials, particularly that tall handsome man with the beautiful voice. MMmmmmm
But I voted for Buffy and Angel (even though I think it should have been Buffy and Parker).

embers | February 13, 01:44 CET

So I am the only one who voted for Carrie/Big. Ok then.

TamaraC | February 13, 01:46 CET

I loathe Buffy/Angel with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
menomegirl | February 12, 22:08 CET

That seems highly energy inefficient...
zeitgeist | February 12, 22:32 CET

Not if we could wire it into the grid.

barboo | February 13, 02:09 CET

Oh TamaraC, Carrie and Big are never going to last. Not that Buffy and Angel did, or Mulder and Scully either; really I think the Huxtible's are the only happy couple on the list! Even Rob and Laura Petrie didn't last, Laura went back to her real name 'Mary' and moved to Minneapolis where she worked in a news room.

[ edited by embers on 2008-02-12 23:17 ]

embers | February 13, 02:14 CET

Willow and Tara are my favorite TV couple, hands down. Except for some notable TV drama, those two showed each other the respect and love all couples should.

This is of course why Joss isn't bringing back Tara, because we are so very fond of her.

Meanie Joss! May your tabasco be much too hot for your migas and give you heartburn! :)

quantumac | February 13, 02:31 CET

My favourite couples are Giles and Jenny, Wes and Lilah and Wash and Zoe. Mutant Enemy did zing us with some powerful adult relationships.

I voted for Buffy and Angel. Only because Jack and Ianto weren't on the list.

*smooch*

Simon | February 13, 02:36 CET

I voted for Sam & Diane

Oh, wait...

chazman | February 13, 03:08 CET

Ah, so you're the one :)

Aww... ;)

I voted for Buffy and Angel. Only because Jack and Ianto weren't on the list.

I don't know. As pretty and yummy as those two are, I feel a little apprehensive. I'd be more comfortable if Jack decided if he was really in love with Ianto, Gwen, or The Doctor. Then again, he could have all three.

... ... ...

*goes into acute fan-girl shock*

deepgirl187 | February 13, 03:13 CET

Are you all nuts? The best 'verse relationship was clearly Spike and Andrew!

Also, where's Joey and Dawson/Pacey?

I ended up voting for Buffy and Angel because I like it when Joss wins. (even if he isn't aware of it at all)

ninjapigeon | February 13, 03:15 CET

I voted for Buffy & Angel but if John & Aeryn from Farscape had been there I would have voted for them instead. And yes, Willow & Tara, imo, were the best Buffyverse couple!

Firefly Flanatic | February 13, 03:20 CET

Big vote for Buffy & Angel. Would've been a tough choice if Kyle & Amanda were on the list.

Cpt. Starbuck | February 13, 03:22 CET

I voted for Sam & Diane

Bingo.

OldMusic | February 13, 03:44 CET

Buffy and Angel, ftw!

Would've been hard not to vote for Vincent & Catherine if they would've been there. Where's the B&tB love?

Willowy | February 13, 03:49 CET

That seems highly energy inefficient. You should try hating them with the soothing warmth of a compost heap. Plus, bonus thematic tie in with dead things!

Yeah, just think if I could channel that dislike into energy. I could fuel my house with it! Wouldn't that be cool?

Not if we could wire it into the grid.

Hee!

I voted for Buffy and Angel. Only because Jack and Ianto weren't on the list.

*grins* I don't watch Torchwood but I love your comment!

As far as canon pairings go, I'd have to say my favorite Jossverse couples were Willow/Tara, Xander/Anya, Buffy/Riley, Zoe/Wash and Wesley/Lilah. But of course, my absolute favorite is Lindsey/Angel.

menomegirl | February 13, 03:50 CET

Chalk another one up for Rob and Laura Petrie love. They were so cute together--especially when they sang and danced together. And there's a Whedon connection--Joss's grandfather wrote at least one episode of The Dick Van Dyke Show.

JudyKay7 | February 13, 04:02 CET

Gotta give it to Buffy and Angel....what can I say I'm a big fan of the I'd die for you (literally) thing...

But it was tough to choose them over Luke and Lorelai because I loved that couple as well.

kballgetlost | February 13, 04:07 CET

Except for some notable TV drama, those two showed each other the respect and love all couples should.

Except for that part where Willow was erasing Tara's memories when she disagreed with her. I wouldn't classify that so much as "TV drama" as "deeply wrong," myself.

Sunfire | February 13, 04:09 CET

I voted for Rob and Laura. That was just perfect casting.

And I'm with Willowy on the Vincent and Catherine pairing. Why wasn't that on the list? I would have been really torn then.

Buffy and Angel were OK, but I came into the series in the middle. I really didn't even know who Angel was until after being exposed to Buffy and Spike. After the heat of that pairing, Buffy and Angel just seemed a little too teenager-ish.

palehorse | February 13, 04:36 CET

Buffy & Angel Forever! Hazzah!

alexa | February 13, 05:04 CET

I love that my favorite fictional couple made the list, so of course I voted for Buffy and Angel.

wounded dwarf | February 13, 05:15 CET

I voted for Mulder/Scully. They were a couple long before they realized it, and then for another year or so before we were told they'd crossed the bridge. And still we got sexual tension. Yummy.

Buffy and Angel may have been a world class tragic love, but I agree with whoever said it above -- they were just too overall depressing to be a Favorite Couple.

Love's Bitch | February 13, 05:23 CET

no contest for me ... I voted for Buffy and Angel ... but I would have had a tough choice if John and Aeryn (Farscape) had been on the list too...

resa | February 13, 05:31 CET

I must have missed the poll, no poll in the link anymore.
But weighing in on the Vincent Catherine love.

Buffy and Angel bored me to leaving the room by season three.

Xane | February 13, 05:40 CET

see the results of an AOL poll on favorite couples here
Lots of our favorites (as stated above).

resa | February 13, 05:54 CET

I just voted, so it is still working. Rob and Laura for me. Although if Bob and Emily had been there, that would have been my choice.

Lioness | February 13, 06:36 CET

Buffy and Angel all the way. Mulder and Scully were brilliant and nicely subtle, but i don't think Chris Carter managed to sustain it as well as he could have.

I know it's kind of random, but I still wish Buffy and Oz would have gotten together. Their scenes together, though few, were always great. Even though it's a little scene, i always remember them speaking in Living Conditions. That bench really did look shifty.

vocah | February 13, 08:13 CET

I still wish Buffy and Oz would have gotten together.

Huh. That's the only new Buffy ship I've ever seen suggested that I didn't make a face at the first time I read it.

Sunfire | February 13, 08:49 CET

David & Maddie for me. This may be a generational thing, me being an impressionable teenager at the right time, neither too innocent nor too cynical. Plus, I know it's hard to believe now, but Bruce and Cybill were actually really cool for a while back there.

Willow and Tara in the 'verse - poor Buff really didn't have the luck, relationship-wise.

SoddingNancyTribe | February 13, 09:00 CET

Buffy and Oz? Ew.

No way. Buffy needed Captain Kirk.

She never got him.

Willowy | February 13, 09:38 CET

I voted for Mulder/Scully. ..... Now if they would have offered up Spike/Buffy, that would have been a totally different story.
luvspike | February 12, 21:32 CET

Exactly! But this is TV Guide, not big on picking up on the deep and complex over name recognition. ;-)

Also, I loathe Buffy/Angel with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
menomegirl | February 12, 22:08 CET

Ditto! so I went with Mulder & Scully.

Shey | February 13, 10:18 CET

They forgot to mention Profit and his mom.

Succatash | February 13, 10:59 CET

Oh it should be Angel/Spike. One more season, just one more season and Queer As would have had nothing on our hot boys.

Tina | February 13, 12:32 CET

Yay for,

They forgot to mention Profit and his mom.

Buffy and Angel, but any poll like this that includes Profit and his mom would really improve my opinion of internet polls.

jpr | February 13, 13:13 CET

Oh it should be Angel/Spike. One more season, just one more season and Queer As would have had nothing on our hot boys.

Well, there was that one time...

baxter | February 13, 13:16 CET

Well of course I voted B/A. *Shakes Whedon-love pompoms*

But if William and his Mother had been on the list, who knows?!

missb | February 13, 14:52 CET

I'm actually sad that everyt ime some outside writer wants to talk BTVWS relations, the only one they ever throw up there is Bangel. There is rarely ever any consideration given to Willow and Tara, which lasted longer, was far more touching, and was for the ages. Willow and Tara for me.

Dana5140 | February 13, 17:00 CET

No way ! *faints from shock*

;-)

Saje | February 13, 17:03 CET

Dana5140; I've noticed this before, having been an obsessed fan elsehwere (for example, my favorite singers are the Statler Brothers) is that people "outside" always pick on names they've "already sort of heard" instead of going deep.

filops; The word I tend to use for Spike & Drusilla is "terrifying sweetness" so I think we part company a bit. (I'm thinking of reconciling them in my Season 30 fanfics *grin.)

DaddyCatALSO | February 13, 17:24 CET

Weird, I was always icked, by Mulder and Scully as a couple, and that destroyed the show for me, so I do loathe them as couple with every fiber of my being (okay, I do loathe Angel-Cordy, even more, but that's another subject). The sexual tension was fine, but the couple thing with them, just not for me. I do feel somewhat similar to what's going on with Temperance and Booth on Bones, I'd rather, if they don't become a couple.

But, hey I'm weird, I did love the sexual tension between Rachel and Joey on Friends, and loved even more that they did try to pay it off, but ended up with them figuring out that they do have great chemistry, but not so much as a couple.

I do feel almost equally passionate about both Buffy/Angel or Buffy/Spike, but I do agree that Willow and Tara, might have been the greatest couple we had on Buffyverse, well in my opinion.

Numfar PTB | February 13, 17:25 CET

I still wish Buffy and Oz would have gotten together.

Huh. That's the only new Buffy ship I've ever seen suggested that I didn't make a face at the first time I read it.

Thanks man. I think Buffy/Oz (I can't think of a way to combine the names. Maybe Offy? or Boz) had potential. They both had this burden that they didn't ask for, and I think Joss could have explored that in a very cool way.

Lot's of people have mentioned Willow and Tara as being possibly the greatest romance of all time or whatever, and I know I'm probably gonna get some angry responses for this next thing, but Willow and Tara never did it for me, for one simple reason: Amber Benson couldn't act. The relationship brought out the best in Alyson Hannigan, but the Tara stutter was an abomination. Wow! I'm extreme aren't I? The stutter did peeve me though.

I honestly think if they had hired a different actress, that i would have a completely opinion, because she was written brilliantly.

vocah | February 13, 17:58 CET

I predict a riot.

Saje | February 13, 18:16 CET

I don't know. As pretty and yummy as those two are, I feel a little apprehensive. I'd be more comfortable if Jack decided if he was really in love with Ianto, Gwen, or The Doctor. Then again, he could have all three.

Yes, yes he could.

*smooch*

Right back atcha, babe.

Tee | February 13, 18:35 CET

I went for Luke and Lorelai too, even though we're Netflixing the beginning of season 7 at the moment and frankly, by now I'm thinking they're better apart - they were both too selfish and myopic to deserve each other. Not sure how the season will play out, but given the options on the list, that's my vote.

Of course, if Father Peter and Assumpta had been an option...

Kirochka | February 13, 18:44 CET

Funny, just got a tingly feeling that the "Love Thread" might be returning at some point in here.

[ edited by Numfar PTB on 2008-02-13 15:57 ]

Numfar PTB | February 13, 18:49 CET

I was thinking how unusual it was for Simon to be kissing strange women . . . and then I remembered. (Well, I was away for a while.)

SoddingNancyTribe | February 13, 19:10 CET

vocah; well, I think the stutter was written in as part of the charcater,it was not an Amber bit of business.And interesting viewpoint; a poster named ceili at "certain other boards" felt Tara was written badly (she called her Mrs/ Cardboard Cutout) but felt that AMber was brilliant. We all have our opinions *g.

(She also said Amber was the closest any woman had ever come to making her re-think her predispostions, and ceili is somewhere to t he right of Michelle Malkin; she makes *me* look like James Carville, which takes soem doing. Can you tell I'm cyber-crushin' here?))

[ edited by DaddyCatALSO on 2008-02-13 21:25 ]

[ edited by DaddyCatALSO on 2008-02-13 21:28 ]

DaddyCatALSO | February 13, 19:20 CET

Cool! No riot so far.

About the stutter, I'm aware that it was written as part of the character, i just felt that Amber did it badly. She had some nice moments, her scenes with Buffy in the sixth season were better, but overall she didn't engage me. The stutter was just one example.

vocah | February 13, 20:29 CET

vocah: in defense of Amber's acting, I find her performance quite convincing. I thoroughly believed she was a shy person until I found our Amber is totally the opposite in real life.

Did you watch her expressions in "Family" and "The Body"? She's a good actress, but she wasn't given a lot to work with in BtVS.

Unfortunately, Amber isn't built like a pencil, so she probably won't get the really headliner roles in the future. Hollywood's loss, I say.

quantumac | February 13, 20:30 CET

I was thinking how unusual it was for Simon to be kissing strange women . . . and then I remembered. (Well, I was away for a while.)

As his wife, it is a relief to know he *isn't* kissing strange women...

Tee | February 13, 20:34 CET

"Never was a huge fan of Angel/Buffy. Now if they would have offered up Spike/Buffy, that would have been a totally different story. "

My sentiments exactly Luvspike.
Spike and Buffy would take first place, and Angel and Cordy would be a close second.

kathylovesspike | February 13, 20:39 CET

I'm not saying she didn't have some nice moments, but they were few and far between.

I agree that she didn't have a great deal of plot lines in the show. A lot of the time she just seemed to be a foil for Willow. Her best stuff was when she broke up with Willow in season six and when Glory sucked her brain. She did crazy surprisingly well.

vocah | February 13, 20:45 CET

Tee said:
As his wife, it is a relief to know he *isn't* kissing strange women...

See? Warned'ya all, the return of "The Love Thread", sort of... LOL.

Numfar PTB | February 14, 02:18 CET

I think my favourite Tara moments were during Buffy's birthday party in "Older and Far Away". I thought she really came into her own, giving Buffy a shoulder to lean on and teasing Spike and yet still being shy and awkward around Willow.

I voted for Luke & Lorelai on the poll, although David & Maddie were sparkling at the time. ;)

samatwitch | February 14, 02:55 CET

I just realized, no one has brought up Fred and Wesley. Yeah... tell me you didn't bawl like a baby for what would never fully be.

Love's Bitch | February 14, 10:02 CET

It was just too painful to mention :(

chance | February 14, 14:26 CET

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