March 04 2008
(SPOILER)
Character descriptions for Dollhouse regulars, recurrings.
As opposed to Ausiello's own descriptions, these are the ones the casting process itself has been using (as confirmed by this link, where the info eventually will expire).
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ShadyLane | March 04, 04:30 CET
Tina | March 04, 04:44 CET
swanjun | March 04, 04:58 CET
I can only hope the casting directors see a clip of Michael Muhney as Sheriff Lamb.
And the description "cold as an alp" rocks!
[ edited by OneTeV on 2008-03-04 02:19 ]
OneTeV | March 04, 05:19 CET
Two things: Paul's surname has changed.
And: To Smith. Agent Smith.
gossi | March 04, 05:24 CET
The One True b!X | March 04, 05:30 CET
gossi | March 04, 05:33 CET
Now I'll have to start using my real name online too. But everyone will think it's just a screen name. *shrug*
ETA: Waitaminute... gossi, do you mean that the Paul Smith character is no longer named Paul Smith, or that Smith is the new last name? I'll be bummed if my shot at Jossian immortality was destroyed already.
[ edited by Haunt on 2008-03-04 02:40 ]
Haunt | March 04, 05:35 CET
Agent SmithHauntgossi | March 04, 05:36 CET
Sorry, that was me. I'll look the other way now.
[ edited by theonetruebix on 2008-03-04 02:37 ]
The One True b!X | March 04, 05:36 CET
swanjun | March 04, 05:43 CET
It's also interesting to see the Whedon archetypes coming together, such as the reluctant father figure. I love the idea of a version of the slayer living on in TV land.
Arsenal | March 04, 06:05 CET
EmmBee | March 04, 06:25 CET
The One True b!X | March 04, 06:33 CET
Get it done.
Dirk | March 04, 06:57 CET
Lady Brick | March 04, 06:59 CET
Holy Mary mother of God! This is beyond creepy... or maybe cool, I'm not sure yet. MY real name is Paul Smith. I'm 38 years old and I'm moderately hardened by a cynical distaste for most of humanity. Weird.
For your sake, I hope this doesn't turn out like the time Homer Simpson discovered that a Don Johnsonesque detective on the show "Police Cops" was also named Homer Simpson. :)
Mad Axe | March 04, 06:59 CET
ShadyLane Best of luck to you landing the part! Dunno if you got my e, but if you didn't it's no big.
ShadowQuest | March 04, 07:03 CET
Yes, and I'm on the Michael Muhney bandwagon too....MM as Paul would be the icing on the cake to this glorious show. Sexy and cynical - check and check.
One of my favorite "beautiful and heavy" actresses has to be Melissa McCarthy. I know she's busy with Samantha Who (the best part of the show I might add), but I would love to see her work with Joss. She has that Joss spark about her...I loved all the Sookie and Lorelai scenes. She's one of my favorite actresses.
Harmalicious | March 04, 07:04 CET
azhippieinoz | March 04, 07:10 CET
If I were actually a professional actor and a member of SAG, I would totally go out for the role of Topher.
UnpluggedCrazy | March 04, 07:20 CET
Also going to go for Holly Marie Combs as Dr. Saunders. Sounds wierd, but I always have felt like she was the only "Charmed" regular who could act well enough to work on a Joss show.
[ edited by KingofCretins on 2008-03-04 04:34 ]
KingofCretins | March 04, 07:30 CET
VeryVeryCrowded | March 04, 07:33 CET
Only time will tell.
userpjx | March 04, 07:44 CET
KingofCretins | March 04, 07:46 CET
He already has a show in the pipeline called Leverage.
The One True b!X | March 04, 07:48 CET
KingofCretins | March 04, 07:50 CET
swanjun | March 04, 07:53 CET
That is exactly what I was thinking. God, I hope so. I've been wanting him to be a series regular on something forever. He's so good in everything he does. I'm keeping my fingers crossed this time around.
All of these characters sound fabulous. I can see myself becoming completely engrossed in all of their stories.
Lirazel | March 04, 07:55 CET
IrrationaliTV | March 04, 08:00 CET
Or, staying with my goal of seeing at least one or two "Veronica Mars" alum on the show... Kyle Gallner.
KingofCretins | March 04, 08:09 CET
romanceguru | March 04, 08:22 CET
The One True b!X | March 04, 08:31 CET
... I'll be in my bunk...
Haunt | March 04, 08:36 CET
My idea for Sierra is Jessica Lucas (Lily from "Cloverfield"). The link says not caucasion, and she is simply fantastic looking, and I thought "Cloverfield" rocked :)
Sticking with the "Veronica Mars" obsession I have with the casting, I could see Enrico Colantoni as Boyd. Although that's the role I could best see Michael Muhney in, also.
It was actually reading the sides that made me think of Sean Maher, oddly enough.
[ edited by KingofCretins on 2008-03-04 05:39 ]
[ edited by KingofCretins on 2008-03-04 05:48 ]
KingofCretins | March 04, 08:37 CET
onthedrift | March 04, 08:56 CET
Funnily, when I read Topher's description as "...articulate, nerdily attractive and blithely amoral" my very first thought was "I'd SO date him"!
And while we're coming up with episode titles, I call it that Paul Smith and (a reprogrammed) Echo have to pretend to be a married couple in order to escape a greater danger- 'Mr and Mrs Smith'!
missb | March 04, 11:41 CET
In any event I certainly think she qualifies as a striking beauty.
Darwinfox | March 04, 11:47 CET
Although as happy and excited as I am about this I hope we will still be getting some Whedon films in the future. One film was not enough before another huge bout of TV time. I know I am in the minority in this one, but I was really hoping for at least 3 or 4 more movies before he went back to TV. But who the frak am I to question that which inspires he whom we call Whedon. I'd pay to see him do charades because well, the funny.
theMidnighter | March 04, 11:52 CET
Those descriptions are intriguing. I know i've said all new faces but from that description I could see Gregg Henry (of 'Firefly' and 'Slither') playing Boyd Langton. He always struck me as having a kind of younger Brian Dennehy vibe to him and that sounds like what the part calls for.
Saje | March 04, 14:16 CET
Anyway, I like to have Joss back on the television screen. The movies were taking too much time for my taste and so far I like his television work best.
ETA:
And on topic:
I couldn't resist reading the character descriptions. They sound very interesting. Wonder when we will be hearing the first casting news.
[ edited by the Groosalugg on 2008-03-04 12:27 ]
the Groosalugg | March 04, 15:25 CET
I like the Gregg Henry idea, he certainly meets the 'gruff' thing. Another name that leaps to mind is Dean Butler (Hank Summers) -- he seems to be at the transition from 'good-looking' to 'fatherly', he was pretty awesome in his limited work on Buffy, and he was used so sparingly, it wouldn't even feel like Joss just casting all his own vets again.
KingofCretins | March 04, 15:46 CET
With regards to Joss and movies, I get the impression he wants to make the big summer releases at some point. Which take a long, long time to put together in the southlands for some reason.
[ edited by gossi on 2008-03-04 13:42 ]
gossi | March 04, 16:32 CET
KingofCretins | March 04, 16:34 CET
And another role ought to go to Linda Fiorentino. Or Michelle Forbes.
Mandy Patinkin might also work well, if they can get to him actually commit to staying.
Dana5140 | March 04, 16:56 CET
Saje | March 04, 17:04 CET
Lirazel | March 04, 17:05 CET
I wish we had a chance of seeing some BSG people as regulars, but I think they're still going to be shooting as the Dollhouse stuff begins. Jamie Bamber (sp) as Victor would've been a pretty thing.
swanjun | March 04, 17:25 CET
In Buffy, Giles was the only main character who was older than early 20's (apart from vampires, ex-demons and such- but Spike and Anya acted more like their physical ages than their actual ages). In Angel, the group as a whole were older, late 20's to early 30's, but still few older characters.
Firefly had a much better balance of characters in terms of gender, but still Shepherd was the only character who was past his 30s.
Of course I'm not levelling this as a criticism at Joss, because I think each of the shows had a certain focus with their characters. But something like BSG has shown that you can have a really varied mix of characters and write older characters like Adama, Roslin and Tigh that are just as interesting as the younger characters, and who receieve equal focus. So it's nice to see Dollhouse taking a similar shift, exploring both genders and people of different ages.
Razor | March 04, 17:31 CET
Another idea for Boyd, and, yes, it's another Buffyverse re-cast! Keith Szarabajka (Daniel Holtz).
And another idea for Boyd, Richard Jones, who is currently playing Ellison on "Terminator: SCC" (although I'd rather that show get renewed and him not be available). Actually, my opinion of Brian Austin Green has gone up enough on that show to buy him as Paul, but, again, I'd rather him be on "Terminator".
How about Chiwetel as Paul? I know the odds of getting such a rising A-lister on an hourly TV show would be pretty lousy, but maybe he'd like to work with Joss again? He really is one of the best actors out there, and he's even done the cop/government agent thing ("Inside Man").
KingofCretins | March 04, 17:50 CET
As for TV vs. movies, I'll take Joss TV any day. I like looong stories.
jcs | March 04, 18:19 CET
And for Topher, Richard Kahan. He was Marco in The 4400 - I don't for a minute think he can only do geek, and would be wary of the typecasting, but he would be perfect for the part and to see him act Joss material? I would love it!
Or Nate Corddry. He was brilliant as Tom in Studio 60, especially in the stuff towards the end, and I think he'd be great in this role!
I had a whole list based on the Ausiello descriptions, but it's at home and I can't remember what I picked - I'll be interested to see how those ideas change now!
RachVG | March 04, 19:33 CET
There's just too many possibilities here. Glad I'm not a casting director.
thatweirdgirl | March 04, 20:33 CET
I think Muhney would be great as Paul as well.
Mal'sGal | March 04, 20:55 CET
But, Hollywood's version of big is a size 5. Which I've learned to deal with the hard way. It's sad but true. I'm 5'4 1/2'' and at 130 lbs am considered "big", which is stupid. I shouldn't have to starve myself to get roles, but I was told to lose 15 lbs to be even considered for a role on stage at two different theme parks here in Florida.
Rogue | March 04, 21:02 CET
of these was a regular--but men over the age of 35 did make an appearance. As for mature women--at times it seemed as though a demon curse had removed all females over the age of 30 from the "Buffyverse" except for Joyce. My memory of being a teenage girl is that there were plenty of middle-aged women in my life who were not named "Mom". Don't get me wrong--I loves me Whedonverse--it just made me sad sometimes that something that I love so much would render women my age so invisible (& I'm afraid I'm going to have to include "Angel" & "Firefly" in the invisible older women category). I'm happy to see that "Dollhouse" will enrich itself with women over 30. Because we are so awesome.
stellabee | March 04, 21:43 CET
swanjun | March 04, 22:08 CET
And for those discussing Amber for the role of November: According to her famous post on the original Bronze she is 5'4" and 118. If you wanna call that "big" I'll have to punch you right in the nose. She has curves, yes. And she's proud of them. But, as she said, compared to her "very petite" costars she looked larger because of her curves. Yes, she's a "comforting presence," but by no stretch of the imagination "heavy." And she's Amber Benson, a person, not a size.
ShadowQuest | March 04, 22:47 CET
It's odd to try to cast November. For reasons already discussed, there aren't many recognizable plus-size actresses to go to because most movies and TV shows have no use for plus-size female characters. By definition, whoever they cast will be a relative unknown. Ausiello might be right about going to Riff Regan (Joss did cast her once, after all, he must have liked something).
KingofCretins | March 04, 23:11 CET
emz_M | March 04, 23:16 CET
No, all the Dolls currently foreseen to be regular or recurring characters are in their 20s. There's plenty of room in the naming scheme alphabet for guest star Dolls of any age.
The One True b!X | March 04, 23:24 CET
jcs | March 04, 23:55 CET
Meagan Good for Sierra, though?
BTW, awesome idea Joss, Eliza, whichever -- both using the phonetic alphabet as names and the technical term (Actives) and the casual term (Dolls) are all very catchy devices. Although are there really only 26 of them? I'm completely into this show already, just from the casting sides and the character descriptions.
KingofCretins | March 04, 23:55 CET
Teacherdarling | March 05, 01:49 CET
Saje | March 05, 01:51 CET
bubblecat | March 05, 03:03 CET
(But doesn't watch Easterenders so has no idea what she's on about).
gossi | March 05, 03:26 CET
Are you saying no one here's British or no one here watches Eastenders? Either way, Google can help.
zeitgeist | March 05, 04:32 CET
Is it just possible that Joss likes that "alternate name" thing? Xander instead of Alex, Topher instead of Chris? Wash instead of, well, Hoban, so I guess that's understandable.
KingofCretins | March 05, 04:52 CET
And I noticed the similary of the Xander and Topher nicknames, too.
swanjun | March 05, 05:55 CET
Adelle DeWitt
40 something, any ethnicity, beautiful, sophisticated, cold as an alp. Runs the Dollhouse with an efficiency that is both ruthless and protective. Would die before she showed anyone how lonely she is. Series Regular.
Haunt’s Picks: Gina Torres; Stephanie Romanov;
Paul Smith
30s, any ethnicity, good-looks hardened by a cynical distaste for most of humanity. An FBI field agent, he's been chasing the urban myth of the "Dollhouse" long enough to have lost any shot at promotion. Becomes obsessed with, and twisted romantic foil for, Echo. Series Regular.
Haunt’s Picks: Alexis Denisof; J. August Richards;
Boyd Langton
Late 40s-60, any ethnicity, gruff, about to make the descent from 'good-looking' to 'fatherly'. An ex-cop, Boyd is Echo's 'handler' - her guard/bodyguard. Hates himself for taking this job, bu he'd lay down his life to protect the people he feels he's exploiting. Series Regular.
Haunt’s Picks: Joel Gretsch (Tom Baldwin, The 4400); Kevin McKidd (Dan Vasser, Journeyman); Ian McShane (Al Swearengen, Deadwood);
Topher Brink
20's, any ethnicity, genius programmer who's articulate, nerdily attractive and blithely amoral. He's responsible for imprinting the dolls - and making sure they stay unaware of anything. Is fascinated by the science and kind of digging the illegality. Fun to be around, but might not be remotely trustworthy. Series Regular.
Haunt’s Picks: Richard Kahan (Marco, The 4400); Gabriel Tigerman (Andy Gallagher, Supernatural);
Sierra
20's, Asian or any ethnicity - certainly not Caucasian. Strikingly beautiful. A Doll like Echo, she has every personality in the world but her own. Is not as self-aware as Echo, but is instinctively drawn to her as a friend. Series Regular.
Haunt’s Picks: Q’Orianka Kilcher (Pocohantas, The New World); I know it says Asian, but I’m really picturing this role as a Native American woman. Or possibly someone like Navi Rawat, though I absolutely do NOT want her to leave Numb3rs under any circumstances. And then again someone above suggested T.V. Carpio and I'm cool with that too. :)
Victor
20's, any ethnicity, handsome and fit. A Doll, and the other closest thing to a friend Echo has. Childlike when he's inactive, and everything from Errol Flynn to (young) DeNiro when he's active. Series Regular.
Haunt’s Picks: Patrick Flueger (Shawn Farrell, The 4400)
November
20's, any ethnicity, beautiful and heavy. Another Doll, a hopeful child in the house and everyone else you need her to be outside. A comforting, radiant presence, who tends to get fewer of the criminal gigs and more of the personal ones. Recurring.
Haunt’s Picks: ????????
Dr. Claire Saunders
30-60, attractive, smart and a little sad. Looks after the physical well-being of the dolls. Has an acid wit that she usually reserves for Topher, who may only be kidding about being smitten with her. (Or he may not). Recurring.
Haunt’s Picks: Robin Weigert (Calamity Jane, Deadwood); Annabeth Gish (Monica Reyes, The X-files);
That's all I got right now...
And holy frak!!! Having just watched the latest episode of Jericho I guess I have to say that Shoshannah Stern (Bonnie Richmond, Jericho) needs to be cast as someone on here.
[ edited by Haunt on 2008-03-05 05:01 ]
Haunt | March 05, 07:52 CET
I suspect "Beautiful and heavy" is seen a lot less often. Likely never - unless they are looking for a humorous friend to the leading lady.
crossoverman | March 05, 09:50 CET
Late 40s-60, any ethnicity ... Kevin McKidd (Dan Vasser, Journeyman)
Kevin McKidd won't thank you for that Haunt (he's only 34 ;).
And i'm an idjet, genuinely had no idea that Topher was a pet form of ChrisTopher, colour me one of the stupid colours ;).
Saje | March 05, 13:46 CET
Racoon Boy | March 05, 15:06 CET
Haunt | March 05, 16:42 CET
purplehazel | March 05, 16:43 CET
And the ages specified are likely just suggestions.
Well my tongue was firmly in my cheek but since you put it that way, the description also says "about to make the descent from 'good-looking' to 'fatherly'" so age apart, he still wouldn't thank you. Or is the character description just a suggestion too ? Cos if so i'm gonna suggest Michelle Forbes again ;-).
Saje | March 05, 16:51 CET
RachVG | March 05, 22:54 CET
[ edited by hobnail on 2008-03-05 21:23 ]
hobnail | March 06, 00:22 CET
Paul Smith: Alexis Denisof. I can't get past this, I mean, how perfect would he Be? And surely just one Joss "main character" alumni would be OK.
Second Choice: Blair Underwood
Adelle DeWitt: Mary McDonnel
Victor: I have to agree with Haunt. Hadn't thought of him before but now I can think of no one else, Patrick Fluegar (SP?) from The 4400
Dr. Claire Saunders: Allyson Janey
Boyde Langton: Alec Baldwin
Topher Brink; Jonathon Woodward, just has to be
November: Sara Ramirez (Callie, Grey's Anatomy)
Sierra: Grace Park
[ edited by Shey on 2008-03-06 12:17 ]
Shey | March 06, 15:16 CET