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May 16 2008

TV Worth Watching says Dollhouse is best new series. Also love for the reduced ad time.

And Dollhouse, based on the premise, the cast, Whedon's reputation and the enticing clips shown, is my first-impression pick -- subject to seeing the full pilots of all the shows, of course -- as the best new show of the 2008-09 season.

Nice.
Reduced ads, more Dollhouse, it just keeps getting better.
I have no more Yay team!!! in me. (I'm too American to squee and not quite enough of a nerd to Whoo-Hoo). ;-)
So. Much. Dollhouse. And. Fringe. News. Head. Going. To. Explode.
Yay. Whoo-Hoo. Squeeee.
All that.

Yesterday was a crazy happy day with all the news.
I can't wait to see the rest of the promotional videos, photos and all that stuff we're gonna see until January.

And for someone that cursed Fox so many times, I can't wait to say that Fox it's the very best network, with the very best shows, on 2009. [ oh my... how things change ]

giving her as many personalities, abilities and traits as Sydney, on Abrams' Alias, had wigs.


That was just priceless! lol
As I've said a couple of times, this is Fox under new management - give Kevin Reilly a chance, he has an incredibly impressive resume (or CV if you like ;)) of shepherding great shows to air and giving them a chance to prove themselves.
As I've said a couple of times, this is Fox under new management - give Kevin Reilly a chance, he has an incredibly impressive resume (or CV if you like ;)) of shepherding great shows to air and giving them a chance to prove themselves.
zeitgeist | May 16, 13:29 CET


So .... are you saying that there's some connection between Kevin Reilly and Fox under new management?? ;-)
Also we've always been at war with Eastasia.
When's Hate Week, Simon?
5x5=42!

*might need to explain*
*leaves it*

Yay! More show! :D
On the internet every week is hate week, but also sqee week, and legend...ary week, Orwell would have been confused.
De ja vu. Didn't we have a thread on this before?
David Bianculli, who writes TV Worth Watching, is one of the few television and film critics that I really trust to find the really good stuff. His reviews are consistently articulate, witty, and very heartfelt. I'd say having him excited about Dollhouse is a big win early on. Perhaps he will pimp it on Fresh Air in January and get those public radioheads to tune in. Hooray!
As I've said a couple of times, this is Fox under new management - give Kevin Reilly a chance, he has an incredibly impressive resume (or CV if you like ;)) of shepherding great shows to air and giving them a chance to prove themselves.


Sure. I know that.
But what I mean is... as you (if I'm not mistaken) said before, Fox is a company, not a person... BUT, when the Firefly thing happened a lot of fans, including me, channelize the hate to Fox as it as a single unit, as the one to blame (which I still do, to be honest). But even knowing that now it's a new management, I find it funny the way my view of the network will probably change in 2009.

Anyway, about the review... I'm very happy that Dollhouse it's getting all these good reviews, this is definitely helping to build the feeling 'this is gonna be a sucess'.
I agree, Bianculli knows whereof he speaks. And Jaime Wienman at MacLeans has some stuff to say about commercials and Dollhouse and saving TV:
http://blog.macleans.ca/2008/05/16/after-these-messages-well-be-riiight-baaaack/
I understand the animosity towards Fox, but its kind of like hating everyone you meet named Parker because a guy named Parker was mean to your friend Buffy when she was in college ;) Not EXACTLY like that, but its the closest I could think of without much effort. Its just not the same Fox now. much like the Actives will adopt and shed many skins. Yay, back on topic ;)
het, I got a questions to all of you from US...

How much these kind of review influence on the public?
I mean, here in Brazil, we have a few magazines that can influence quite a lot in a movie public, for exemple. But I don't think these sites/blogs matter much here.

How about there, in the US, any of this sites that had already reviewed Dollhouse has big influence??
The only one I can think that I'd imagine has that kind of power would be 'Tv Guide'...
Hmm. Well, I think that Entertainment Weekly has some influence on me and the people I talk to. If you remember the whole Snakes on a Plane internet thing, that was definitely helped by them.

TV Guide is more for people who watch a lot of TV shows religiously; EW is more for people who pick and choose and want to be informed of the viewing possiblities (and perhaps what happens in the shows they don't deign to watch, so as to keep up at the watercooler).

Now that's magazines and their respective websites. Other than that, I think that people will only find the news if it's something they care about, so I don't think that they hold much weight, especially so far from the new season. Honestly, I think that a site like this is more likely to catch someone (a stray click from the Dark Horse site, perhaps), because of how easy it is to find so much info pertaining to Dollhouse.

A question for the Brits: do y'all actually make the sound "squee"? Just trying to expand my slang vocabulary; I only recently figured out that "fit"="hot".
In those two shows, for their entire season runs, commercial ad and promo time will be cut by half, with no more than five minutes of interruptions per hour for network commercial minutes.

The math doesn't sound right. Every hour show I've checked (Firefly, Drive, BSG, Bones, Wonderfalls) runs about 44 minutes, plus or minus. That would imply 16 minutes of ads and promos. (The only exception that I see in my iTunes is an episode of the Incredible Hulk at 49 minutes, but that was back in the '80s when there was less ad time.)
OneTeV, different articles and different people are all interpreting the announcement differently since there are several kinds of commercials of which network commercials is only one type.

The consensus among most articles seems to be indicating that there will still be 10 to 12 minutes of commercials per hour and that the show will be 48-50 minutes in length.

[ edited by TamaraC on 2008-05-16 20:36 ]
So similar to Dexter in length then? Sounds good to me. I've noticed in recent seasons that episodes of many of my favourite shows struggle to reach the 40 minute mark. Supernatural has often had episodes run around 38 minutes during the last season or two. You wouldn't think it would be noticeable for a show to run a minute or two short but I find a hell of a difference between watching an episode of Dexter and one of Supernatural just recently. Love both shows dearly but with Dexter you actually feel like you've been given your full "hour". Be good to have Dollhouse do the same.
Most of Buffy episodes in season 7 ran approximately 38 minutes, with "previously on" segments and credits. On DVD they are even shorter without the recaps.
Honestly, I think that a site like this is more likely to catch someone (a stray click from the Dark Horse site, perhaps), because of how easy it is to find so much info pertaining to Dollhouse.


Hum... that's what I was thinking........

Well, so the thing is to get good reviews from the big ones... Tv Guide, EW... right?
USA today and AP is who we really want along with Yahoo and MSN. Maybe whoever AOL links to.
I think it depends on what the radio & TV news say, & where they get their info. That's where I get my "normal" information. If you hear it, you look it up, watch it, and like it.
Raggedy Edge, I'm with you - I'm hoping David Bianculli will review Dollhouse on Fresh Air (or, crossing all fingers and toes, do an extended interview with Joss). Fresh Air is a very popular public radio show on culture and politics, and I very often discover shows and movies I hadn't considered watching through the intelligent interviews on the show. For example, they recently had a spate of interviews with the writers and cast of The Wire that got me to Netflix that show, even though I *hate* police procedurals. If they can get me to give a police procedural a chance, I think they could get Sci Fi haters to give a Joss show a chance.

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