May 17
2008
Dollhouse Trailer (revised).
The revised version with final titles is available for your perusal. Enjoy!
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Like this version better, it's definetly more commercial and professional than the other one.
[EDIT: The Graduation Day shot was taken out of the trailer... I think the bar scene is gone too.]
[ edited by danielgm86 on 2008-05-18 02:59 ]
dnlmglhs | May 17, 20:54 CET
pat32082 | May 17, 20:56 CET
Trek_Girl42 | May 17, 21:00 CET
HowlingLupe | May 17, 21:00 CET
[ edited by alexa on 2008-05-18 03:02 ]
alexa | May 17, 21:02 CET
chance | May 17, 21:04 CET
; >
There are very few people I'd be in a focus group for, and one of them would be Joss (and most of the others are long gone) so it's all good.
I think they did a smashing re-do, and thanks to gossi and his helpers for getting this up for us to see. I'm so juiced... or I would be if I felt better. 'Nighty... for reals, I hope.
QuoterGal | May 17, 21:13 CET
GVH | May 17, 21:17 CET
It's already on youtube, but it's displaying this message:
This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender's friend request.
dnlmglhs | May 17, 21:41 CET
However, aside from that I'm still L-O-V-I-N-G this trailer. A few new scenes added in... some actual footage to replace the Faith vs. Buffy placeholder from the last one. No more is-it-or-isn't-it-Amber scene.
Haunt | May 17, 21:45 CET
Scaniano | May 17, 21:50 CET
maxsummers | May 17, 21:53 CET
dnlmglhs | May 17, 21:54 CET
zeitgeist | May 17, 22:03 CET
Yayness! By the power of Greyskull! We have the power!
RollingInKittens | May 17, 22:05 CET
It's great....
Joss... oh Joss....
Wow... speechless...
Only problem... her Spanish was a little bit off...
I'm soo impressed...
hbojo | May 17, 22:05 CET
zeitgeist | May 17, 22:09 CET
dnlmglhs | May 17, 22:13 CET
RollingInKittens | May 17, 22:18 CET
Oh well, nitpick.
shambleau | May 17, 22:23 CET
crazygolfa | May 17, 22:24 CET
dnlmglhs | May 17, 22:26 CET
My hope is that the first episode - once FOX and Joss are happy with it and know where they are going - gets put on Hulu for streaming, or (properly) given to me to put online. You know, in - say - August. Why? Pilots leak all the time anyway. Every year, every single FOX pilot leaks onto the internet. So why not post it online themselves, using Hulu, which Fox is a business partner of? They get some advertising money, and we - the fans - get to see the first ep. Additionally, it'll end up all over the internet. Buzz. Actual buzz. People will actually know about the show before it airs (or, in the case of Firefly, before it was cancelled and on DVD). And they can control distribution of the ep. There's a few issues with the plan (having online rights for the music, etc), but I think it's absolutely doable, it would cost hardly any more (in fact, it'd probably make it back via advertising), it's never been done before, it's incredibly ballsey and exactly what they need to do. This show has a target demographic of young, technologically aware people. Clearly. Where do you promote that? Online. How do you promote it? Show people it.
Seriously. That's an argument somebody else needs to make to the right people.
[ edited by gossi on 2008-05-18 04:27 ]
gossi | May 17, 22:27 CET
zeitgeist | May 17, 22:31 CET
dnlmglhs | May 17, 22:32 CET
If Dollhouse takes off, that'll change.
ManEnoughToAdmitIt | May 17, 22:37 CET
@theonetruebix | May 17, 22:37 CET
yes shambleau .. I speak "Mexicoan"
I am in awe of Joss for many reasons... so a little bad Spanish.. I can forgive..
hbojo | May 17, 22:38 CET
Dollhouse has been the most viewed trailer of the upfronts for - I believe - all networks. So, uhm, I'll await that thank you note from FOX.. :P Dollhouse also has something like 15 fan websites now, and a presence across Facebook, Livejournal, Youtube - there's wikis, blogs... Compare it to Firefly - after the Firefly pilot shot, I don't think there was a single website for it. I think Kiba's site came a bit later. The only reason I point that out is this: there's buzz for this, growing from the ground up.
Speaking of which, it's nearly 5am here. Time for some cookies and milk.
[ edited by gossi on 2008-05-18 04:42 ]
gossi | May 17, 22:39 CET
ETA: What gossi said ;)
[ edited by zeitgeist on 2008-05-18 04:41 ]
zeitgeist | May 17, 22:41 CET
dnlmglhs | May 17, 22:42 CET
Well, for one thing, Lost isn't a show where nothing is resolved ever. Those of us who have watched the entire thing know this. ;)
@theonetruebix | May 17, 22:44 CET
[ edited by danielgm86 on 2008-05-18 04:48 ]
dnlmglhs | May 17, 22:48 CET
Pointy | May 17, 23:01 CET
Still, the Papyrus is gone? I liked the Papyrus! I love that font.
Braeden Fireheart | May 17, 23:04 CET
Are they going to shoot all the episodes before they even air, like with Buffy?
Valentyn | May 17, 23:06 CET
"I soon came up with what I thought vernacular writing may have looked like if the English language existed 2000 years ago."
and
"Today, it is so overused, I would not use it unless there was some very unique application that called for it."
I so agree. (And if anyone has time, read the whole interview at the link - it's kinda interesting...)
QuoterGal | May 17, 23:11 CET
ShanshuBugaboo | May 17, 23:35 CET
Fringe will be an amazing exciting show. Dollhouse will be loved. I will assume that everyone involved is perfectly ok with that.
IrrationaliTV | May 18, 00:06 CET
Effulgent | May 18, 00:19 CET
Djungelurban | May 18, 00:19 CET
(Which got a few quizzical looks from the family, since I'm at my Mother's for Sunday lunch.)
missb | May 18, 00:33 CET
And some definitely specific Jossian themes showing up. We now know that the Actives ARE volunteers - at least putatively. And we can see something of how their status was pitched to them. A washing away of all bad memories, of all regrets. What would make someone want to take such a step? Presumably, hopefully, we will at some point learn something about the pasts of these people just as, in a better world, we would have learned something more about the pasts that drove some of those who found themselves on board a particular spaceship. An earlier posting mentioned that when not on assignment the Actives exist in a state of bliss - is there a sense in which these people have come into their present state in a search for their own kind of Serenity?
You can wipe away a memory, but can you wipe away a soul? Interesting that this is the reverse side of what happens to vampires in the Buffyverse. The vampires keep their memories, aspects of their personalities, but they lose their souls - their moral compass, their self-beingness. We are looking at the question of what makes a person themself, from opposite perspectives. But Echo is remembering - she's somehow retaining a little of what's supposed to be wiped away. We can anticipate that this is going to make her curious, make her want to remember, to know, to be who she is. Isn't this, in a way, the same path that Spike's journey took? He was the vampire who somehow retained just enough of his humanity, to make him want more of it, to make him decide to fight for the return of his soul.
And what's so interesting is that, that wasn't how Joss created him. We know that he was supposed to be just another badass vampire, he wasn't even originally planned to survive to the end of Season 2. But something emerged out of the combination of the writing and the actor, how James Marsters took on the character, playing him, as he's said, with just a little more soul than was written, that took him in a direction his creator hadn't anticipated for him. Now Joss has created a character who is a creation of others and becoming something more than what her creators had anticipated. A reflection on what it means to be a writer, a creator, and have your creations take on an identity that you didn't anticipate?
Lots of fun layers to play with here. And the fact that being an Active apparently gives you the ability to hold your breath underwater indefinitely.
barboo | May 18, 00:34 CET
There are a lot of idiomatic variations to Spanish (just as there are to English). You'd have to specify WHICH "perfect" Spanish you wanted. Unless her assignment is to appear to be a native of some specific region of one of the many areas in the world where Spanish is spoken, being able to understand and be understood would be sufficient.
barboo | May 18, 00:42 CET
My first coherent thought: "What...the...fuck?" (but in the good kind of way of being bewildered, with a smile)
I love the [probably evil] boss lady already. She'll be fun to watch.
Weirdly enough, it doesn't feel like I've been without Eliza Dushku-filled entertainment as long as I actually have (2003, finale ep of Buffy). She was so present in Brian K. Vaughan's Faith arc of the Season 8 comics, I mean he just nailed her voice and personality so perfectly...and credit has to be given to the lasting impression due to Eliza's performance on the show and the arcs she was given (especially during Seasons 3/4 of Buffy and Season 1 of Angel).
So much for wanting to go further into DVD-only viewing. This looks like as-it-airs required viewing the same way Dexter is for me and Lost became again in Season 3/4 (I could stand to switch to DVD-only for Heroes at this point though, maybe Big Love too, even though that's probably the only drama that airs anymore during the summer).
Kris | May 18, 00:44 CET
And I don't understand why they don't just use my Dollhouse logo on my work desktop, it's gorgeous!! Never mind the fact that nobody but me has seen it and it includes 2 dozen copyrighted photos from at least that many commercial photographers... :D TeeHee. Anyway, what they have isn't immediately evocative of a dollhouse roof, they should turn the H into a chimney and have the 'doll' and 'ouse' symmetrically slanted. But I'm not picky, not at all.
cabri | May 18, 01:33 CET
I also like this better, without the line about high tech stuff with hot chicks. I think that it gave the wrong message about the show, since Joss is obviously not one to objectify women (even if the character is...). The thing about the dolls being anyone/thing is more the whole gist. Hopefully 'twill hook and intrigue people who will tune in.
As for the Spanish, it's completely passable. She has a gringa accent, but that is to be forgiven. The phrase itself was fine to me, gramatically and in terms of diction. I've even heard similar phrases spoken by a Spanish-speaking friend, not from Mexico, but one of the South American countries. Maybe Colombia?
At any rate, she gets the point across.
Love, love Olivia Williams. Great new addition to our Whedony actors to follow and love and revere. Excited about Harry Lennix, who is awesome, not to mention quite good looking. Excitement over Eliza goes without saying.
Where is Numfar? He should do the dance of joy!
BandofBuggered | May 18, 01:45 CET
Then it will look like a TV show presented by Hasbro. Granted, that's likely a step up from a show abut swingers, but still...
@theonetruebix | May 18, 01:52 CET
But that's good! It's a built-in sponsor! :D
cabri | May 18, 02:02 CET
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. I feel like Joss is back! January needs to be NOW!
ETA: About the Spanish...in the script for "Restless," in the scene where Giles and Anya start speaking in badly dubbed Spanish to Xander, there's a note that says Joss has no idea how to speak Spanish and that no one is perfect. ;-)
[ edited by UnpluggedCrazy on 2008-05-18 08:07 ]
UnpluggedCrazy | May 18, 02:06 CET
Simon | May 18, 02:41 CET
cabri | May 18, 03:11 CET
I noticed that! That was my second favorite line in the trailer =/
Overall, I think I like the first version better, Foo Fighters and all. It seemed to have more energy and be a little more focused.
dispatch | May 18, 04:04 CET
Just had to mention this is one of my favourite comments of all time (I know it's out of context, but it made me chuckle anyway :))
pfxcarty | May 18, 04:32 CET
Joss is even much more of an icon than Buffy ever was.:o
Donnie | May 18, 04:35 CET
On the other hand, I have to admit that this version looks more professionally done.
Anuris | May 18, 05:17 CET
http://ia360902.us.archive.org/0/items/DollhouseTrailer/
Download the .flv file. To watch it, you can use VLC Media Player (http://www.videolan.org), and I think there are some programs around on the Internet to convert it to other formats for your iPod or whatever.
P.S. Thanks for the link to that interview QuoterGal, interesting stuff.
MattK | May 18, 05:21 CET
[ edited by ShanshuBugaboo on 2008-05-18 11:50 ]
ShanshuBugaboo | May 18, 05:48 CET
On the subject of J.J. Abrams I think he has an excellent ability to start something but no idea how to finish it. Alias started brilliantly but I've heard goes downhill after season 2, he created Lost but as far as I know has had no creative input since season 1. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are the brains behind that show and Mission Impossible 3 has a terrible third act. I reckon it will be the same with Fringe.
Dave B | May 18, 06:20 CET
[ edited by Winther on 2008-05-18 13:01 ]
Winther | May 18, 07:00 CET
gossi | May 18, 07:02 CET
I'm waiting for the episode with a post-Dollhouse ex-Active. "When we wiped the memories of your missions, we also wiped the five years of ignorant bliss you experienced. Sorry you don't feel any different than when you arrived here five years ago."
Also, I have been to many swimming pools, but I have yet to find one with Eliza underwater in the shallow end... Bummer.
OneTeV | May 18, 07:09 CET
Hopefully it'll hit Australian shores in the not-too-distant future. The networks experimented with running new shows on the air at the same time as their American counterparts in the hopes of attracting audiences - they called it "Fast-tracking" - but they had the rather unfortunate problem of doing so just before the writers' strike ...
But as the picket lines have long since left and everything's sorted, maybe they'll try again (I doubt it though; they only ever fast-tracked programmes in their second season or older).
quantum | May 18, 07:26 CET
shesmyeverything | May 18, 07:42 CET
shesmyeverything | May 18, 07:59 CET
Whatevs Im still gonna download them asap anyway...
aus-mitch | May 18, 08:11 CET
aus-mitch | May 18, 08:13 CET
I'm just more than a little curious as to how this will affect the 'verse. This has probably been covered elsewhere, but Dollhouse will either occupy most of Joss' time, meaning we won't be going back to Serenity, or it'll attract a lot of attention - the positive kind - that could lead to some kind of renewed project in the 'verse. In the mean time, I'll have to stick to the graphic novels; I forsee that as being the main medium the series lives on in for the time being.
But enough of that; this is about Dollhouse, not Firefly, and I won't be the one to hijack the thread on what is only my third post around these places.
quantum | May 18, 08:19 CET
BandofBuggered, you're right about Olivia: real authority already in her character.
Is it January yet?
doghouse | May 18, 08:22 CET
And I for one was glad to see the "hot chicks" line removed.
Today my cousin came over & I showed her the trailer. She's the one fellow Joss fanatic who lives nearby to me. Her first comment was "that gave me chills". :-)
Shey | May 18, 08:26 CET
Pumps | May 18, 08:27 CET
gossi | May 18, 08:34 CET
Then I saw Tahmoh; everything's gonna be okay. Good timeslot, high production value, ace writer- I now see how this kicks ass.
Samwel Roberts | May 18, 09:16 CET
Enjoying the opposite acting styles shown by Olivia and Eliza as well as their respective characters. The former is formal, proper, cultivated, utterly controlled and controlling -- her diction and comportment stage-perfect. The latter lets the emotions boil up and out. Perfect choices for the puppet master and unwitting (while on the job, at least) puppet who doesn't even know she's acting. Kind of an Olivier vs. Brando, cooked vs. raw dynamic. The Strawberry Blonde Auteur sure does layer in the metaphors!
The former speaks in perfect paragraphs and reveals nothing, the latter gives herself away in the ungrammatical "I'm not nobody." (In fact, Eliza's so natural and informal it feels weird referring to her as "the latter.")
Will enjoy seeing the former lose control over time as the latter gains it.
[ edited by Pointy on 2008-05-18 15:21 ]
Pointy | May 18, 09:20 CET
I want desperately to get excited about Dollhouse but I can't bring myself to do so.
It's not that I don't love Joss or Eliza because I do and it's not because I don't think this show will be awesome but the show is on Fox which means that it will be excellent, receive rave reviews and Fox will cancel it after 2 episodes.
I'm still scarred from Firefly's cancellation. Quite frankly I don't think I can take another heartbreak. Is anyone else worried about this? How did you guys get over that worry so you can get excited about the show because that's where I want to be.
Please share your wisdom with me so I can get giddy with fanboy glee.
Neo-Prodigy | May 18, 09:26 CET
Even only two episodes of a Whedon show is better than no Whedon show at all. They produce thirteen episodes, so even if it tanks and FOX decides to cancel it, we'll have 13 great episodes on DVD at some point.
Donnie | May 18, 09:32 CET
Yep. Just like The Inside.
<thread-hijack>
I really don't understand why The Inside has never been released on DVD. Does Fox (studio) really think that the sales wouldn't even cover DVD production and marketing costs? (Knowing that marketing would be bare minimum.) That's hard to believe.
</thread-hijack>
MissKittysMom | May 18, 09:45 CET
- Zoe to Wash
gossi | May 18, 10:00 CET
Neoprodigy, as Donnie said, don't think of it as the beginning of an ongoing series, think of it as a close-ended 13 episode series that you will either see on TV or on DVD. We just aren't sure yet. And, yea! maybe they will do another set after that someday...or not. Either way, you have the 13 episode series.
newcj | May 18, 10:05 CET
Well that depends when they're shooting the 13 episodes. Will they still be filming Dollhouse when the show airs in January? Cause if that's the case and the show tanks like Drive, we might not get 13 episodes. Course that's the cheery Ulster optimist in me speaking.
Simon | May 18, 10:08 CET
jenofthejungle | May 18, 10:21 CET
Olivia Williams is a true Brit.
[ edited by JMaloney on 2008-05-18 16:34 ]
JMaloney | May 18, 10:33 CET
newcj | May 18, 10:40 CET
Report to the nearest Dollhouse for a little memory modification. :-)
The PurpleOne has mentioned that this is a different regime than the one that (mis)handled Firefly. The L.A. Times posting had this had very encouraging words of support from Fox President of Entertainment Kevin Reilly and Gary Newman, chairman of 20th Century Fox Television.
OneTeV | May 18, 10:41 CET
| May 18, 10:42 CET
It actually looks cooler than it did in my head. (Which, ok, is not difficult, as I am not that creative.) I just loved the whole feel of it. Ah, Joss. You make me smile. Again.
Tarheelfan | May 18, 10:44 CET
redders | May 18, 10:45 CET
Well I gather the first episode is in the can but I haven't seen the sides for the next episodes so there might be a wee gap in filming.
Simon | May 18, 11:34 CET
You're absolutely right, it's all about perspective and a little Whedon is better than none. I feel loads better now and January can't get here fast enough.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to adhere to OneTev's orders and report to the nearest Dollhouse for a little memory modification.
;D
Neo-Prodigy | May 18, 11:37 CET
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Reilly
Early in his career at NBC, Reilly supervised Law & Order in its first season and developed ER. After his first stint at NBC, Reilly was President of Brad Grey Television, the television production arm of Brillstein-Grey Entertainment. He joined Brillstein-Grey in 1994 and helped build the television studio into one of the most successful independent suppliers of television programming. He was responsible for shepherding some of television’s top shows, such as the pilot for The Sopranos, and the NBC comedies Just Shoot Me and NewsRadio.
Before rejoining NBC in May 2004, Reilly served as President of Entertainment for FX, where he developed and launched the cable network's first original drama, The Shield. He also developed and programmed Nip/Tuck and the Denis Leary show Rescue Me for the network. [1]
At NBC, Reilly's vocal support of The Office helped it survive its low-rated first season. [2] He is credited with developing hits such as My Name Is Earl, Heroes, 30 Rock, and Friday Night Lights.[3] Despite having received a new three-year contract at NBC in February 2007, he and NBC mutually agreed to terminate the partnership in late May 2007, and Reilly departed soon after.[4]. Approximately one month later, Reilly was hired as President of Entertainment at FOX.
zeitgeist | May 18, 11:47 CET
If there's an actors strike, obviously, this will have an impact on best made plans.
The best case -- and hopefully likely! -- scenario is that Dollhouse premieres to solid ratings, which means FOX did the promotional thing correctly. If it gets off to a good start, they will order more scripts pretty quickly, which is a great thing.
gossi | May 18, 11:53 CET
But middle management will always remain the same. As long as fans accept that Fox will promote the show as heavily as posible and are perfectly entitled to cancel it if it doesn't get the ratings, then I'll be fine.
Simon | May 18, 11:55 CET
zeitgeist | May 18, 12:03 CET
As for the revised trailer, the font is much better and I heart the colorized shots of Eliza that act as background. Nice.
And gossi, I heart you for rocking the most perfect Browncoat quote in reply to Neo-Prodigy. Really, perfect.
onthedrift | May 18, 12:13 CET
My one complaint with the trailer that they haven't seemed to change is leaving the "Did I fall asleep" scene in there twice. I mean, I get what message it's supposed to bring, but it could possibly be confusing to others. If it was a different scene (different clothes/different time), but the same dialogue with Echo waking up, it would be more interesting. Very small little gripe, as I thought the graphic transitions were much, much better! Glad they took the hot chick line out as well. Very tightened up! Kudos to the trailer team!
Harmalicious | May 18, 12:19 CET
Supersymmetrical | May 18, 12:25 CET
Lioness | May 18, 12:29 CET
IrrationaliTV | May 18, 12:33 CET
It looks better overall, mainly because it's obviously better quality, the colour is much deeper.
Leaf | May 18, 12:36 CET
Harmalicious | May 18, 12:44 CET
Leaf | May 18, 12:48 CET
gossi | May 18, 12:54 CET
IrrationaliTV | May 18, 12:54 CET
stellabee | May 18, 13:10 CET
@theonetruebix | May 18, 13:11 CET
Not to me--I've never seen that madly-in-love look on Faith's face, and the scene w/the FBI guy doesn't seem very Faith-like to me, either.
Young women having sex with wrinkly old men...
Did I miss a sex scene? Guess I'll have to watch it again.
jcs | May 18, 13:17 CET
dnlmglhs | May 18, 13:28 CET
cabri | May 18, 13:42 CET
[ edited by danielgm86 on 2008-05-18 19:52 ]
dnlmglhs | May 18, 13:51 CET
Which, er, is not a bad thing in itself.
[ edited by gossi on 2008-05-18 19:56 ]
gossi | May 18, 13:53 CET
@theonetruebix | May 18, 13:56 CET
dnlmglhs | May 18, 13:59 CET
I do wish there wasn't such a strong "It's Faith" feel to most of what we see of Eliza.
I agree. And unlike most here, I'm worried about ED being able to carry this off. I think she has a limited range. I saw her in Bring It On and thought she was playing Faith. I saw her being punked by Ashton Kutcher on tv and she reminded me of Faith there too, and that was her real personality, presumably. She has star quality, but that's different from a chameleon-like ability to disappear into every role. Joss sees a more versatile actress than I do and I hope he's right, because a lot is riding on her shoulders. But frankly, I didn't see that much variety in the trailer.
shambleau | May 18, 14:04 CET
gossi | May 18, 14:14 CET
You must've done some great publicity of it :D
[ edited by danielgm86 on 2008-05-18 20:19 ]
dnlmglhs | May 18, 14:16 CET
I think I may know what you mean, shambleau. It's not like ED is a great mimic who can do accents and such (neither was SMG). But seeing her as Faith all the time - I don't get that.
If she's always playing herself to an extent, that's what a lot of good actors do.
dreamlogic | May 18, 16:46 CET
I think people underestimate her, because she's always been asked to play the Faith/girl with bad ass edge part. And clearly Joss thinks she's underestimated, that's why he created this for her.
And all I have to say is, "Bye Bye Love." She was young, but she was fantastic. In fact, the whole movie is fantastic.
pat32082 | May 18, 17:15 CET
hbojo | May 18, 17:48 CET
UnpluggedCrazy | May 18, 19:01 CET
You don't ask to have someone fall in love with you if you just want sex. You ask someone to fall in love with you because no one else has, and you don't think much of your own self-worth so that someone would bother.
Which, sad. Or I'm reading too much into it.
pat32082 | May 18, 19:15 CET
And the rest of your post was also good.
sumogrip | May 18, 19:34 CET
Also Sanctuary on AtS, where her emotional breakdown in the alley with Angel was most un-Faith like and beautifully done.
I'm betting that after BSG, Tricia Helfer is going to have a hell of a time getting past the "oh, she's just Six from BSG", even though she is one kick-ass actor.
Shey | May 19, 01:14 CET
IrrationaliTV | May 19, 01:22 CET
And yeah, I'd have to agree that seeing her as Faith in the Dollhouse trailer is truly in the eye of the beholder. I'm not seeing it at all. I think when we're seeing power and strength, we're seeing Eliza shine through, which is bound to be the case, and all to the good.
QuoterGal | May 19, 01:46 CET
It's hard to hope after heartbreak. I see this sort of like love-- you can hope again, or you can stay bitter and shut off forever. Everyone makes their own choice on this. I for one will be watching in January with a lot of optimism. gossi's report of massive Dollverse traffic to watch the trailer on a Sunday afternoon supports my prediction of decent to awesome ratings if this gets a proper promotion before it airs.
hot chicks line is gone...
And an excellent move, too. In proper context, I expect the line works, but as part of a brief trailer... well, if this was some random show I was seeing an ad for, that would have reduced if not ended any interest I was developing earlier in the trailer. There are too many shows that work that angle to a degree that's really disappointing.
Sunfire | May 19, 09:03 CET
Echo vs Max Guevera
Eliza vs Jessica (the dark Jessica of old, not the new smiley one)
No way FOX could cancel the show before airing THAT. :-)
zaphod | May 27, 10:42 CET