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June 11 2008

Filming on Dollhouse pilot not quite a wrap. The fan blog Dollrific! reports that some reshoots for the pilot are going on at the moment because "the show just got back notes from the network who asked (told?) that certain parts be redone".

They probably also want it bulked up for Remote-Free TV.
Does anyone know if the pilot is a double-parter? I don't remember reading anything about it being so, but maybe I missed something? :)
Well, maybe they're good notes. Fingers crossed ;).
Well, maybe they're good notes.

No, Saje, clearly all this could mean is... *dramatic sting* THE END OF THE WORLD!!

*runs around like the sky is falling*

;-)
*runs around like the sky is falling*

Trees. It's giant trees from tiny acorns. Not the sky.
"Look, you guys, Eliza needs to be in greater states of undress. This is FOX!"
Is it time to start sending Barbie dream houses to Fox executives?
I'm not worried.
I think a more measured response is probably in order kmb99. Like sending dollhouse sized scale models of the executives' actual houses hand-built from the bones of small animals, glued together with our own saliva and painted in blood. Or the Barbie thing, it's down to the individual.

Trees, sky, rabid squirrels, the whole bloody lot's coming down. Knew we should've put a lintel in.
I'm not worried.

But the birds, Sunfire! The birds are pooping on us as the tree falls!
Didn't this happen for the Serenity pilot? Isn't there an original version of the episode as opposed to the one that ended up being broadcast.
Computer says yeah.

(and then they dumped it altogether and he and Tim famously had to write 'The Train Job' over a weekend. If that happens here I wouldn't necessarily say the sky is falling but i'd definitely be watching it pretty closely ;)
Well I'm guessing that since the network already liked the script then it might have been the direction of a particular scene that the suits didn't like. Or their nine year old daughter didn't like it. I dunno. It'll probably end up on the DVD anyhow.
I'm sure the notes said "This is just too good. We are afraid. Please insert errors to comfort us."
Yeah, it could be anything from

"Lose the memory thing, it doesn't test well in the zero to tens"

to

"Joss, some scenes would clearly play better if you had more money so here's another million, please reshoot what you want and if you need any more, just ask. We're here for you"

Good thing about Joss' shows is, there will be a DVD, no-matter what happens (cos they're not daft and we kinda are ;) so it'll all shake out eventually, even in the worst case scenario.
Heh, I sense some people might be preparing to build CSI style FOX exec miniature house replicas to send to Fox execs.
"(cos they're not daft and we kinda are ;)"

Saje sums it up perfectly.
Didn't this happen for the Serenity pilot?

I think it was part of the "make Mal funnier" changes, yes. (Then again, my recollection of the early, early word that Joss was creating what became Firefly was that he was aiming to do more of a straight drama that happened to be set in a sci-fi world. Don't know when that idea, exactly, came off the table.)
I'm not worrying. When they decide not to air it (or when Joss expresses a preference toward the pre-reshoot version), I'll start worrying.
Oh, the negativity here! Let's try to remember that FOX seems to have gotten religion recently.

I'm not going to worry about this one . . . yet.
I'm not going to worry about this one . . . yet.

But the poop! The poop!
And so it begins....
...a fruitful collaboration between the network and Joss Whedon. This collaboration leads to a seven season run that garnered several Emmy Awards, including the stellar third season in which Dollhouse swept every single drama catagory. The spectacular duo Dollhouse and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles gave the Fox Network proved to be a dominating ratings juggernaut on Monday nights, winning the night for five consecutive seasons until Joss Whedon's groundbreaking television series Goners premiered in the fall of 2013 on ABC.
It's just that the Fox executives have so many new pencils, they just can't help themselves.
It's just that the Fox executives have so many new pencils, they just can't help themselves.

Best WHEDONesque comment of the day.
Thats just normal Network behaviour. Notes can be quite strange as far as I know ...like Echo´s underwear is pink but we want it red or something like that. Nothing to worry about.
It's just that the Fox executives have so many new pencils, they just can't help themselves.

That's a new thought. We didn't... do anything... to the pencils did we? Like infect them with nerd enthusiasm? Are we contagious?
That's it, I'm boycotting Fox.

Granted, I live in Scotland, so said boycott doesn't actually involve me doing anything, but still the symbolic power of my gesture will have the execs quaking in their (stylish yet affordable) boots, and so they will no longer talk to The Great Whedon other than in a suitable tone of grovelling reverence, communicating nothing but praise.

In this way shall I prevent the sky from falling.
napua: "It's just that the Fox executives have so many new pencils, they just can't help themselves."

: >

Or, we didn't screwup and hand them half a million red pencils, right?

*checks pencils points in photos*

Nope. 'Cause that just woulda been wrong.

[ edited by QuoterGal on 2008-06-11 01:18 ]
I'm choosing to be cautiously optimistic about this. Keeping in mind all we've heard (and heard, if we come here often enough ;) ) about the new regime at Fox, and the fact that Joss has had much praise for notes in some cases, as with Mary Parent's re:Serenity, this could be of the beneficial.

ETA: I like your way of thinking, crazygolfa :)

[ edited by LKW on 2008-06-11 02:48 ]
From what little I know about TV production, reshoots are not that uncommon. So chill, people.

It's just that the Fox executives have so many new pencils, they just can't help themselves.


And napua, for the win!
Well, obviously this means the Fox executives are evil and the pilot will be aired as the third episode and the show will be cancelled halfway through the opening credits in the pilot.
Blah blah blah Kevin Reilly, blah blah blah monkey attack, blah blah blah ampersand no!!!
Oh no! What's Ampersand doing!?
Getting in the middle of things, as usual.
Oh no! What's Ampersand doing!?
Getting in the middle of things, as usual.


Wait...now it's Doll&House?

Oh, balls...there's a concept change for ya! Damn you, Fox!!

Okay, I think I dislocated one of my shoulders when I got out of my straitjacket. But worry not; all is well again. :)
Puppet Angel teaming up with Dr. House? Color me skeptical. It can't possibly be sanitary, for one.
Well, every network gives notes. Even TheWB/UPN gave Joss notes for "Buffy" & "Angel". The only show that doesn't get any notes, as far as I know, is "The Simpsons". Sometimes it's only a piece of dialogue that network executives don't like, I remember Drew Goddard (is he spelled that way?) talking about a dialogue change in one audio commentary of season seven of "Buffy". Other times, they want a whole scene to be reshot to have a different vibe and feel to it. It could be anything. Sometimes they just want a scene to be reshot, because they want the scene to be more clear, so that dumb people get it too. I'm not worried.

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about them reshooting stuff is the fact that they don't start post-production just yet, which means it will take some more time until it leaks. Here I was hoping that it would leak as soon as possible, but I suppose it will be another two months or so, IF IT EVEN HAPPENS!
In this way shall I prevent the sky from falling.
Gil-Martin | June 11, 01:13 CET

Thank you, Gil-Martin. I am now totally reassured. ;-)

Blah blah blah Kevin Reilly, blah blah blah monkey attack, blah blah blah ampersand no!!!
zeitgeist | June 11, 05:34 CET

And that should set the matter to rest, once and for all.
Although I wouldn't want to be a newbie, reading this. :)
Puppet Angel teaming up with Dr. House? Color me skeptical. It can't possibly be sanitary, for one.


I could see it happening.
...winning the night for five consecutive seasons until Joss Whedon's groundbreaking television series Goners premiered in the fall of 2013 on ABC.

Dude, please. The next tv series has gotta have a spaceship in it. It's only right. Goners will be a surprise summer blockbuster that redefines blockbusters as having actual plot and being awesome. Other than that you are completely right, and well done.
Zeitgeist that is pure brilliance.
zeitgeist, now I'm really scared. Is Puppet Angel going to perform surgery with that sword? What if his nose falls off into the patient?
Thanks, barboo!

hacksaway - I assume that Cuddy would tell him that the hospital's lawyer would be coming by to discuss his gross negligence in not better securing his nose :)
Now I'm picturing House trying to run the differential diagnosis on a vampire puppet. (Can we get that in season four of Robot Chicken?)

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2008-06-11 17:10 ]
Hilarity ensues! I imagine some lurker is writing a fic based on my pic and your sentence about differential diagnosis :)
Well, obviously he has lupus. What else could it be? Oh wait, there's 40 minutes left, so I can't be right.
Well, obviously he has lupus

No, that's Nina.
Wow, zeitgeist. I hope no one from Fox reads that and goes "Hmmm... I like it!" That would just be awful. And yet, I would watch?

Robot chicken would be awesome.
Now I'm picturing House trying to run the differential diagnosis on a vampire puppet.

Sounds more like something for Scrubs.
Well, obviously he has lupus

No, that's Nina.


b!X, with the quick howler!
Wow, it must be Hump Day; everybody is sharper than all those pencils referenced above! Love the graphics, zeitgeist, especially the second one!
Like people have said already, I wouldn't read too much into these reshoots. Let's give Fox a chance before we kick them to the curb over a pretty standard network practice :)

Anyway, they've done some kinda cool things lately.

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