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July 16 2008

Loads of reviews of Dr. Horrible. First up is TV Worth Watching, followed by Time magazine, AV Club, Jossd, Den Of Geek, Cinema Blend and The Globe and Mail. There's a poll about it over at TVWeek.

'Meanwhile, to condense the other, less entertaining new stuff that's circulating:'

loved that.
A-V Club blog with reader commentary on Dr. Horrible HERE.

[ edited by Hjermsted on 2008-07-16 16:59 ]
comment:
It's like a cosmic convergence of av club fixations. I thought it had to be a joke . . .

AV response:
Neil Patrick Harris + Joss Whedon + superheroes + musicals... You might be on to something.
It is so wonderful to see Dr. Horrible show up in the list of Google entertainment news with the 40+ articles out there!
I know I am jumping in late on the Drhorrible bandwagon, was finally able to see it late yesterday and seeing it again today(yay for that!). Quite good, but something has been picking at my brain, and I am sure it must have been commented on the other threads, but the sequence of Penny asking for help and the background setting there, does it seem reminiscent of the Star Trek episode City on the edge of Forever? And how Penny almost gets run over by the van is similar to what happened in that episode? I haven't seen that star trek episode in a long time, so I could be imagining things.

ETA: eek, I know this is not exactly relevant considering the topic, but for obvious reasons, wasn't able to talk about this when the site went live or for the following 24 hours...

[ edited by kurya on 2008-07-16 17:15 ]
Watch Harris' reaction to Hammer's day-saving entrance toward the end of part one: the fleeting look on his face is not "Foiled again!" but "Oh, that jackass."


Exactly! That's what I love so much about NPH.

whenever a "Once More" song comes up on my iPod on shuffle, I usually skip past it


Now, that I disagree with. I listen to those songs all of the time.
Added Joss'd link condensed from Starr's post on it.
Did anyone else get a Rent-ish feel towards the end of Part 1?
kurya, I never saw the Star Trek episode you are referencing but the linked review says some of the shooting took place on the back lot at Universal (where the fire was)...is Star Trek filmed by Universal? That might be a big clue.

I said the same thing when I saw Sunnydale High for the first time...isn't it the same school that 90210 used? And isn't 1630 Revello Drive really the old Brady Bunch house? (just made that one up)

More cheers for DH!!!
Funny that first article has a link to .org. (I guess .com was down at the time.)

You know, there are shows that I watch whole seasons of without learning to care about the characters very much. It only took the Whedon team and NPH ten minutes to make me love Billy.

OT question: How do you pronounce "Tancharoen"? Seems to me I heard it somewhere, but I can't remember.
I'm pretty sure Star Trek was filmed at Paramount proving that I really need to get a life.
Did anyone else get a Rent-ish feel towards the end of Part 1?


Oh yeah! Which made me love it even more.
jcs, I think "Tancheroen" is a Thai surname and based on how I've heard other Thai names pronounced, it might be TAN-cher-o-en or TAN-cher-own.
does it seem reminiscent of the Star Trek episode City on the edge of Forever?


I can't believe I didn't think of that, but yes! The ep that taught Tim Minear that television could hurt.
Star Trek was filmed at Paramount, if I remember correctly.

But Buffy's old high school in "Becoming pt. 1" and the Angel and Spike on the streets of Rome in "The Girl In Question" were filmed in the Universal Backlot, and of course Serenity was filmed in Universal's huge Stage 12, so I was pretty sure that was Universal in DHSAB. If nothing else, I thought I recognized the generic embassy fašade, which is actually part of Spartacus Square where one of the major scenes in Angel's TGIQ was filmed.

But now I'm wondering if the DHSAB screening at Comic-Con is going to be a straight screening for those who mostly haven't seen it yet, or if it's going to wind up turning into the first public Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog Sing-Along. Will we need bubble blowers for the laundromat scene?
The AV club commenters were the first I've seen anywhere who were somewhat cynical and negative about Act 1. Outside of them, the most negative it's been is the very occasional comment that it was good, but not great.

Speaking of Maurissa Tancharoen, I read somewhere that she said that the Dr. Horrible site was doing about 200,000 hits an hour when it crashed.

[ edited by shambleau on 2008-07-16 19:19 ]
Jim, Edith Keeler must die. *bawls*
Well I have to ask, because I haven't seen the answer anywhere:
during the song "Bad Horse" I think the cowboys are (left to right) Zack and Jed Whedon then Neil, and then Joss Whedon on the right side of the screen. Am I wrong?
We were discussing that on .org.
Jim, Edith Keeler must die. *bawls*


Usually, the pacifist character just has to abandon her principles, find a gun and blow away a bad guy.
I lose the cowboy on the right now that it's on my ipod. It's got to be Joss singing, but I didn't think any of them looked like him.
*was supposed to be posted yesterday before the crash*

Wow. I didn't believe it, but we really did crash it. YAY!

THANK YOU DR. HORRIBLE TEAM!

I wanted to make sure our glees and squees were noticed over the non-gleeing and squeeing. :)

It took me 3 hours to read this post, and I even saved some of the quotes that made me LOL. But first, Dr. Horrible!

0) I had to watch twice, and loved it more and more.
1) That Laundry song was so beautiful. I cried.
2) Then I laughed when NPH did the "shoulder boogie" (as noted by many. That was awesome!
3) Penny was wonderful. Made me get puppy eyes (like on Marry Poppins with the "Feed the Birds".
4) Moist is gross. It makes me shudder just to say "moist". Cool though.
5) Evil Horse was hilarious. Well, the LETTER was hilarious. Singing cowboys! What a romp!
6) Nathan's great at being an ass. :) Great entrance, met with great annoyance on NPH's part. (I've stood in his place MANY a times...)
7) Tossing Penny in the trash was hilarious. I loved how she stumbled and sang to doe(?) over Captain Hammer. Typical from nerd's POV.
8) Loved Cap. Hammer's "hair" line in his song. That was awesome!
9) Loved how both my mom and my brother got upset when Captain Hammer took over Dr. Horrible's song. They didn't want to watch at first, and now they adore it!
10) Joss, I had had a really bummy day and this truly brightened it. I had the best night of sleep in a long time and woke up with a song in my heart (Freeze Ray/Laundrymat). Thank you!

Now, to the quotes: (Don't worry. I'll only put up a couple. The rest go on my cubicle wall of fame.)

Don't be silly. Non-US residents are just a myth made up to scare children.
RaisedByMongrels | July 15, 05:35 CET


LOL! That was some nice levity towards the beginning of this thread. And yes, I did notice the florists remark. I wonder if Joss is a closet-florist...

Saje, thanks for reminding of the newly-coined "MuShortio". I'm still waiting for my jammies and Horribl-O's in the mail.

I'm totally with you Gill, on being in love with Lords Whedon. I can't wait to buy everything. I'm even skimping out on certain meals to save up the money. :D

Kat Jetson, I get your "ball" connection with Emma Caulfield, but I believe she would exclaim "whore" every time she mucked up a take. Could be wrong.

Could someone please explain to me the Bait & Switch joke? I'm a little slow and I still don't get it. :?

Thanks! Love it! xo

*BTW, Doc Horrible is #1 on iTunes right now (TV Episodes)*
Could someone please explain to me the Bait & Switch joke?

Try the Wikipedia entry for the phrase if it's unclear and then imagine a double date scenario where those are two people's names.
Moist mentioned a "double date" with "Bait & Switch," and then Dr. H's response made it clear that the "double date" was actually with "Bait" and "Switch." Cue the bow-chicka-bow-wow music. ;-)

[ edited by BrewBunny on 2008-07-16 18:54 ]
I agree with 91.56782 percent of everything said here, and probably the rest, too. If they can get Doc Horrible on stage somehow, Joss will own the Tonys.
Bring on parts two and three!
Hey can we add TVWeek's review to this list?

TVWeek's review and poll
Owing to a lot of Dr Horrible items getting posted, marital law (like martial only sexier) is now in effect. This a fancy way of saying that we didnae want the front page changing every two minutes so entries will be merged or deleted.
I don't think any of the cowboys are Joss, although they may be channeling Joss. But I've been wrong before (I thought it was Butters from South Park who also says "Balls", when it is in fact Spike -- I always get those two mixed up).

On the subject of Bad Horse, when I first heard the name, I assumed it was just an old-school cowboy villain with a colourful name. Then I realised from some of the lines that this was actually somebody done up like a horse - maybe like the Penguin in Batman. Now though I'm flashing on the pantomime horses in Monty Python. Or, could it actually be a horse? It's hard to tell with Joss.

[ edited by AlanD on 2008-07-17 03:03 ]
Marital Law? Is there a curfew? I'm no good with a curfew - history shows us that it only makes me stay out waaay later.

But if there's no curfew, I'm down with it. We nae want to have Word Soup strewn about our nice clean front page, either.

No martial bands, either. John Philip Sousa gives me the creepin' fantods.
From the Time Magazine review, $howmuch.99 would we have to pay to get Whedon and company to keep making this show forever?

I heartily agree. Because you know, we're already attached to these characters and want to see more.

An acquaintance wrote elsewhere that the "opening was a little slow." I couldn't think of a better way to start Act I than with Dr. Horrible vlogging. It sets up the whole sequence of events and lets Neil exercise his acting chops. Which brings me to two little quibbles:

1) As much as I like Nathan Fillion, he did not steal this production, or at least, Episode 1, as I've been reading in reviews. Neil deserves every kudo he gets and that is not a reflection on Nathan.

2) Penny, oh Penny. The Corporate Tool one-arms you into the garbage and you still have stars in your eyes for him? That's just a tad damsely-in-distress stereotypical for me, but I get it, you're an innocent, not wise to the ways of smarmy heroes yet. Still, it rankled.
Oh, I thought he said marital law, and I couldn't figure out if it would be worth having to get married in order to still have my WHEDONesque account.
He did say marital law. He is also speaking in third person.
That's just a tad damsely-in-distress stereotypical for me, but I get it, you're an innocent, not wise to the ways of smarmy heroes yet. Still, it rankled.

She seems to be someone who's proactive and gets a lot of static or ignored when she asks other people to join her efforts. So I could see how Captain Hammer's "I am here, I get it done!" attitude would seem pretty dreamy at first.

The dreamy stares they exchanged were a little much for me though. Admittedly, I am a curmudgeon so that's to be expected.

Oh, I get it. Marrying posts.
If marital law means my partner and I would have to stop our 16 years of living in sin, well, all I can say is it seems a momentous decision to make on the fly over a BLOG membership - and a lot to ask.

I'm not saying I wouldn't consider it, it's just been a really big deal for us. ; >

Can I have a few minutes to think about it? (I would finally get all those long overdue presents... bloody marriage fascists.)
Oh, I can't read. I have the dumb. It must be Wednesday.
Was there a definitive answer on whether that was the Serenity model hanging in Dr Horrible's lab?
It looked vaguely like Serenity. But I thought it would be funnier if it was good old NCC-1701.
On the left side of the screen, in the window? I thought it was just pots and pans with an interesting silhouette.
It's obviously pots and pans. Or, it was obvious to me anyway, heh.

ETA the definitive answer from the guy whose house it was: Pots and pans.

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2008-07-16 19:39 ]
Try the Wikipedia entry for the phrase if it's unclear and then imagine a double date scenario where those are two people's names.
Sunfire | July 16, 18:52 CET


Thank you, Sunfire, for not allowing me to be lazy in my fandom. I now understand the joke, and feel edjukated. :)
The pots and pans are clearer playing the iTunes download on a big screen.
Wow, QG. That would be an interesting way to pop the question:

"Hey honey, you wanna get married so I can keep feeding my addiction on a community blog? I know, sudden right, but I'm at a really important stage in my life. You see, Dr. Horrible Act 2 is coming out tomorrow and I really need to be there to discuss it..."

Actually, that's not a bad idea. :) Just think, there's a kid out there being born right now that's going to have the nickname "Bad Horse". :D
Marital Law, heh. And we didn't even start the countdown for Act 2, yet.
Hey, what's up with the Dr. Horrible website? I went there to watch it again, and it's "up", but there's no linkage to the first episode.

Did they move it?
I'm looking at it right now and it's fine.
Yeah, I refreshed the page and got it. Need to move to a different computer, though. The computer won't keep up with the video.

It's strange, I watched the video twice 2 days ago (sort of), and yet this morning I woke up with "Freeze-Ray" in my head. Beautiful way to start the day.
With my freeze ray... I will stop the pain....
Just watch it because i couldn't before and I loved it.
Can't wait for the next act.

And thank you very much to Joss and company for do it world wide available.

Este.
With my freeze ray... I will stop the pain....

It is So. Hard. not to drop that into casual conversation. It's not a death ray, you know.
Sunfire, it's a messed up world and I just need to rule it.

THEN you can drop it into casual conversation.
Joss is the cowboy on the right.

eta: which, y'know, doesn't seem like the right symbolic or metaphoric place for him, but he directed it.

[ edited by dreamlogic on 2008-07-16 20:57 ]
He is unless he's not.
But then again, to be at the right hand of Dr. Horrible - not a bad place to be
Except that the cowboy on the right is at the left hand of Dr. Horrible.
What the hell does that mean, b!x? There are two singing cowboys on the left, one on the right, which is Joss. What's open to interpretation?
Well no, if he's on the right as we see it then he is in fact on Dr. Horrible's left. Which is fitting, both for a supervillain and an evil creative genius.

Except I don't think he's there at all except in the sweet sweet singing. I think that's another dude altogether.
Dammit, bix.
What it means is that if one of the links in this post confirms it's Joss, it's a link I haven't gotten to yet.

(Or, if none of the links here confirm it's Joss, then I'm waiting for someone to provide a link that confirms it's Joss. Heh.)
There must be a word for looking at stuff and seeing only Whedonia.

Dementia.
Really, all musical cowboys with outrageous mustaches singing about a supervillain with hooves are a little bit Joss Whedon in spirit anyway.
It's not Joss. Trust me.
People who make movies for a living are aware of what's right or left to the viewer.

"Dementia" is a little harsh.

Singing hooved supervillain mustaches are all Joss, Sunfire. Right you are.
Crashy the web!
People who make movies for a living are aware of what's right or left to the viewer.

The point was that Zannadoo said the cowboy-that-isn't-Joss was at Dr. Horrible's right hand. But he wasn't, because if he's on the viewer's right (which he was), he's on the character's left (which he was).

What's open to interpretation? ;)

ETA that two different issues were concerned here, and being confused in the flurry of commenting.

One was that I was saying it wasn't Joss, not saying that "Joss" wasn't on the right.

The other was that I was saying that not-Joss can't be at Dr. Horrible's right hand if he's on the viewer's right.

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2008-07-16 22:11 ]
I think it's a bit of Whedon-thinking. Just wait, next comic-con there'll be auctions on those pots and pans that held the vision of Serenity... just like that grilled-cheese sandwich of Mary.

Joss, Serenity, or not... there's definitely a FLORIST. :)
That's not such a crazy idea, korkster.

Holy Mary Toast Stamp
For those wondering about traffic, another report of the 200-per-hour hit figure, along with a slightly higher spiker. ;)
latimesblogs.
I knew this was going to be great. At least the media is jumping on it too.

"I wonder what you're the captain of"
I think it's a bit of Whedon-thinking. Just wait, next comic-con there'll be auctions on those pots and pans that held the vision of Serenity... just like that grilled-cheese sandwich of Mary.


I need those pots and pans. You can't have them. :)
There must be a word for looking at stuff and seeing only Whedonia.

Dementia.


Sometimes there's a thin line between faith and madness. Other times there is no line. Occasionally they swap sides just to mess with people.

Jonathan: ebay.

Jonathan: ebay.

Sunfire | July 16, 22:27 CET


No, seriously. I love my SS pots and pans. Can not have. :)


Oh- and Joss isn't one of the cowboys. Again, trust me.
Actually, in another viewing of Dr. Horrible, that shape looks more like a Klingon Bird of Prey or:

What can you make out of this?

Well, let's see... I can make a hat! A broach! A Pteradactyl!


/Airplane

Jonathan, I hope you have good door and window locks, because your cookware has just become collectibles.

[ edited by Tonya J on 2008-07-16 22:37 ]
No, seriously. I love my SS pots and pans. Can not have. :)

I don't want them. Well, except for my usual wanting of cookware. But no seriously, I was joking.
Jonathan, I hope you have good door and window locks, because your cookware has just become collectibles.

Tonya J | July 16, 22:36 CET


I'm not worried. :)


I've got a vicious, vicious dog to protect me...
Oh my goodness, Jonathan, your dog in that picture looks exactly like one of those old big eyed puppy paintings!
I want Serenity pots and pans! BTW, Have I expressed my joy at whedonesque being back?
O.K. Jonathan, who is it then? Does Joss have an evil or neutral twin, a mini-me who isn't mini?
The dog now. That I would steal.
Heh. Does he have nasty, big, pointy teeth?? *holds up fingers to mouth, as fangs* Like this? And a vicious streak a mile wide!

[ edited by NYPinTA on 2008-07-16 22:53 ]
I like that dog. and I'm not even a dog person.
Oh my, Jonathan. Your dog is so sweet looking! (but it's the sweet ones that can fool you) :>)

Heh. Does he have nasty, big, pointy teeth?? *holds up fingers to mouth, as fangs* Like this? And a vicious streak a mile wide!

[ edited by NYPinTA on 2008-07-16 22:53 ]

NYPinTA | July 16, 22:49 CET



Oh, he's a terror. Eats children for breakfast. That is, when he's not dressed up like Nana from Peter Pan.

Occasionally, he provides some decent advice...
My wife, on finding out that Joss Whedon wrote "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along-Blog" during the writer's strike, wanted to know "Why? I mean, no one was getting paid, right?"

The answer was laid out very clearly in Act 1 - "A man's gotta do, what a man's gotta do."

Thanks, Joss!! Made my day, and looking forward to Acts 2 and 3.
Can someone clarify iTunes purchasing for me?

I bought a Season Pass (3 episodes) for myself at $3.99.

Then I bought a copy for my wife via the "Gift all episodes" option, and that showed as only $1.99 -- still claiming to be for all three episodes. Am I misreading this? It can't be the case pricing is different for self-purchase vs. gifting...?

[ edited by SteveP on 2008-07-16 23:29 ]

Occasionally, he provides some decent advice...

Of course, your dog is referring mainly to Canadians there. ;)
What great reviews. I'm so happy for all the Whedon's. I'll buy the DVD when it comes, I want y'all in the black as quick as possible.

(Mmmm. Jonathan has cupcakes.)
Saw this review a few minutes ago, didn't see it here yet. AP via Yahoo! News.

[ edited by spikeangellover on 2008-07-17 00:15 ]
I haven't been this happy since OMWF! Where do I send all my money and first born? Joss I love you! (Actually, I wish I were you -- but I would probably waste all that talent.)
Hehehe. AP quoted the curtains line in a serious article.
QuoterGal said:

There must be a word for looking at stuff and seeing only Whedonia.


Jossessed?

I still think those pots and pans are in reality Serenity, but in disguise, Dr H. has to protect it from greedy hands!
I just came in to link the AP article too. Yay, go 'mainstream' coverage!
Jonathan, I love the dignity poster. But I'm afraid your dog has violated the limit placed on cuteness. (It's there to protect us from looking like idiots with too much 'awwwwing'.) What kind of dog is it?
I saw Serenity in the pots too, glad I'm not the only one. Very serendipitous.
I like Jossessed. That works for when you walk past a pile of sticks and look at them and say to yourself, "That one would make a good Mr. Pointy." :D

I am waiting with Baited breath for Act II - but am not allowing any Switching!
Just (finally) got to see this episode. Well-ll... it ain't "Buffy", but then, neither is anything else. It is funny as hell, though, and I like NPH's Billy better than his Barney (er - waitaminnit, that didn't come out right...) Felicia rocks. And Nathan's Captain Hammer is the best pompous ass I've seen in a while. I shall be tuning in.
I do like Jossessed, and its close friend, Jossession.

I mean, crap, if we supposedly call the Jossir "Jossus" (um, which we don't), we might as well have the whole constellation of Jossial visions and visitations.

I once saw the face of Joss in a Dorito, so I coated it with a layer of clear polyurethane and sold it on eBay.
I once saw the face of Joss in a Dorito, so I coated it with a layer of clear polyurethane and sold it on eBay.

You did not! I bet you kept it for yourself.
How much did you get for it, QG?
How much did you get for it, QG?

I'd rather she not say how much I gave her for it.
You're right, dreamlogic, I kept it and put it in the Jossarium, in a special Joss-apse.

(But if I did sell it, Lioness, I bet it'd pay for whole my *eeek* ComicCon trip. *gulp* I may end up selling my Joss-face-in-a fried-zuccini to pay for that little jaunt. )
Hey everybody on the East Coast of the good old U.S.A. -- Part II is up on the Dr. Horrible site and it's only midnight!
oops. deletable.

[ edited by Tonya J on 2008-07-17 06:15 ]

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