"You gotta do what you can to protect your family. I learned that from my father."
July 20
2008
27% More Cheese, Please.
Short Dr. Horrible article with some fun quotes. Plus, Fillion: Karaoke King.
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Madhatter | July 20, 08:36 CET
NimNams | July 20, 09:04 CET
Lioness | July 20, 09:17 CET
NimNams | July 20, 10:18 CET
Madhatter | July 20, 10:46 CET
fanbuoyant | July 20, 11:15 CET
barest_smidgen | July 20, 13:27 CET
True though, 87% isn't 27% more than 60%. One of your trains didn't even leave the station barest (which is probably for the best - that way they can never collide, no matter what the time is ;).
Saje | July 20, 14:01 CET
Alternately: Shut up. :P
[ edited by barest_smidgen on 2008-07-20 23:12 ]
barest_smidgen | July 20, 14:10 CET
Mrs.BigPileofDust | July 20, 15:02 CET
barest_smidgen | July 20, 15:28 CET
I just found the error of saying Edmonton was in Atlanta to be amusing.
NimNams
But the article didn't say Edmonton was in Atla. They correctly say it's in Alta.
Subtle, but there you go ; - )
Ruadh | July 20, 16:37 CET
korkster | July 20, 17:26 CET
(Plus, the lovely Felicia Day majored in math, and she brought us Good Things this week, so it can't be all bad ;))
ETA: Yikes, changed the 'I' there to 'It'. Obviously, I wouldn't bite barest either, but that should probably go without saying ;)
[ edited by GVH on 2008-07-21 02:47 ]
GVH | July 20, 17:46 CET
IrrationaliTV | July 20, 17:50 CET
And I agree that barest's reading is valid, as explained by Saje. Nathan was talking about being asked for an additional 27% of cheese, not expressing the difference as the percentage increase over the original amount.
SoddingNancyTribe | July 20, 18:01 CET
@theonetruebix | July 20, 18:09 CET
IrrationaliTV | July 20, 18:23 CET
SoddingNancyTribe | July 20, 18:25 CET
hacksaway | July 20, 18:44 CET
floofypooh | July 20, 18:49 CET
SoddingNancyTribe | July 20, 18:53 CET
Throughout the years I've given copies of "The Phantom Tollbooth" to all my nieces and nephews, and then to my own children. It's been a while since I've re-read it; I will have to find my copy and do so right away. Thanks for bringing up a happy memory!
floofypooh | July 20, 19:08 CET
I think there may be a genetic talent for maths (bugger the brackets ;) but the antipathy I blame pretty much exclusively on bad teaching (at primary school age usually) - most of us don't have the "talent" gene, we were just shown that numbers are nothing to be scared of at an age when it mattered. People who've had good maths teachers tend to not hate it, even if they're not that great at it (same with science) but a bad teacher can put you off anything.
Saje | July 21, 02:06 CET
I tested well as a young'un and ended up in an advance track through my public schooling, which included advanced math. I had interesting, enthusiastic teachers who gave me unique opportunities for learning that shouldn't be limited to "gifted" programs (studying & performing Macbeth in the fourth grade, exploring major & minor artists/movements even younger, doing logic puzzles and creative real-life problem-solving with math.) It was a rich, supportive experience, but the number stuff just wasn't for me. Who does that hurt? All women? /rolls eyes.
Me and my english lit degree have a very successful business consulting company; someone else does the books & the billing while I do the strategy, the thinking, the writing and the relationships. I own my own home that I renovated myself, $1,000 at at time. I volunteer a lot and I invest ethically. I wailed on the guy who broke into my bedroom in the middle of the night, roughing me up looking for a good time and sent him fleeing (and bleeding) from my home. I carry no consumer debt and I do buy lots and lots of shoes. Sale/shopping math? I'm an ace. Barbie, indeed. Am i gonna get in trouble in the feminist thread now? Sorry if I'm not the model strong/successful woman you had in mind. Quit-cher judgin'. ;P
barest_smidgen | July 21, 04:58 CET
For some though, "hate" just means the same as "don't like" and that doesn't need any particularly negative life experience. I don't like broccoli for instance but it's done nothing to me (beyond not being to my taste, that green bastard ;).
And I know there's a big tongue-in-cheeki-con at the end of your post barest but who said it had anything to do with being a woman or being successful ? I've got numerous male friends that're shit at maths too (on one memorable occasion a law graduate mate said "blah blah, all numbers can be represented as fractions" and muggins here, thinking he was kidding said smiling "Well, yeah, except the irrationals". "Nope", he says, "all numbers". There then followed an increasingly heated debate which ended with me 'explaining' "what fucking 'irrational' actually means, you jumped up ambulance chaser". Had to buy him a pint to smooth the waters, that's how far it went ;-).
Saje | July 21, 05:29 CET
Plus, y'know, us math-likers have usually had a hard time of it, seeing as most people don't like math and tend to not like people who do like math too. At least that usually goes in high school :).
Having said that, there should so be a math-barbie. Blackboard-with-calculation, chalk-in-hand and still dressed incredibly well, obviously. And maybe she could have some stereotypical-but-fashionable glasses ;).
GVH | July 21, 05:37 CET
I take pleasure in doing things really well, so there's certainly a causal relationship between my enjoyment of some things & my degree of natural aptitude. As the sage SNT says,
And, because you're always well-reasoned, well-spoken, and generally a nice guy, Saje, this one's for you.
ETA: It was the "Barbie" bit that got me on the gender-rail; no offense to b!x intended. Thanks for understanding, GVH. :)
[ edited by barest_smidgen on 2008-07-21 14:58 ]
barest_smidgen | July 21, 05:49 CET
Saje | July 21, 06:17 CET
Sunfire | July 21, 06:35 CET
OK, I just picked myself up from the floor . . . cheers for that one. Of course, your problem was that you didn't start with "jumped up ambulance chaser." :-) A handful of science PhDs aside, the most innumerate "smart" people I ever encountered were law students.
SoddingNancyTribe | July 21, 07:21 CET
That's been my experience too BTW. Sometimes I wonder if there's something in the legal mindset that's not fond of immutable truth (albeit in a limited sense) but that's very likely reading too much into it.
Saje | July 21, 11:41 CET
GVH
And don't forget the asided science nerds here. When I tell people that I like chemistry, they usually go home, take a scalding hot shower, and follow it up with a check-up to make sure that nothing "transferred" on our encounterance.
Maybe Joss will one day help paint science & math into a likeableness. Sure there's Willow, but I want something along the lines of Dr. Horrible/Buffy greatness. Geek-for-the-Good kind of thing.
Saje, maybe they get used to convincing others of their view on things that they forget about actual facts.
korkster | July 21, 13:03 CET
And, korkster, there's no such thing as an actual fact. If you want, I can convince you . . .
beck | July 21, 13:58 CET
And, yep, I believe in actual facts as well. I'd be interested to hear your side of the argument though.
NotaViking | July 21, 14:42 CET
But, since you asked . . . It's all in my mind. You, korkster, saje - everyone/everything. I only experience the world in my mind, as do you. The two witnesses only experience the event in their minds. So what "actually happened" is unknowable. Because even an "objective" measurement requires someone's mind to evaluate it. I realize this point of view isn't for everyone, but it works for me. It tends to make me more tolerant of others.
One of my current favorite thoughts: If the universe is infinite, then, by definition, I'm the center of the universe.
'Cuz it's all about me . . . :)
beck | July 21, 15:06 CET
I agree, all we have is our limited human perception which means that the facts are often unknowable (but if I'm not a human being typing on a keyboard right now then something really freaky is going on). For me however, that we'll never know what the truth of a situation was, doesn't change the idea of what truth is. My perception of the truth is not the truth, the truth is the truth (I know that sounds silly ;).
NotaViking | July 21, 16:04 CET
(And I would love to be a theoretical physicist, if it weren't for the damned math!)
beck | July 21, 17:37 CET
And: cool, cypher & beck. I have a good friend who - like beck - thinks that truth and reality is relative. Obviously, as an atheïst, scientist and rationalist, I tend to completely disagree, along the same lines as cypher did here. We must've had this argument, oh, about 1,000 times the last 10 years. In the end, I did have to agree though, that truth could be relative. I don't believe so for one single moment, but there's nothing that says it can't be so. So I've decided that I'm a person who believes that by using logic, human ratio and perceptions, we are able to find truth and describe reality in (hopefully) increasingly correct ways. And the fact that our sciencific theories, formed by different observers, are repeatable and in logical correspondence with each other, means that we're at the very least doing something right (and makes a subjective-truth assumption ever more unlikely).
korkster: I get that, yeah. When I was very young, kindergarten young, I wanted to be a paleontologist. Little kids would be going "fireman!", "nurse!", "pilot", "doctor!", when the teacher asked them "what do you want to be when you grow up", and then I'd cut in with "paleontologist" and would end up having to explain to my kindergarten teacher what the hell that even was ;).
I was always pretty lucky though: the school system here in The Netherlands is more split-to-level than it is in the US. So, in a classroom filled with higher-than-avaragely intelligent people, it was accepted (but still not cool) to like science. The Cool Kids[tm] were even my friends, so go figure ;).
But, yeah, even at university - which is the most knowlegde-supportive environment possible - people still tend to look down on science-students from a social standpoint. If you disprove them, they also tend to shift their opinions pretty quickly, but that doesn't mean the prejudice isn't there initially.
wow, that was a whole lot about me... sorry guys!
GVH | July 21, 18:04 CET
Loved your discussions on facts vs. truth. It's funny, because I was actually arguing for not knowing the actual truth to a person who was religious. And, even though it may seem contradictory, I still stand by it. There are facts, observations that occur. Like, GVH pushes me. It's a fact. There are 40 to 50 witnesses that see the act of GVH pushing me.
However, as to why he pushed me, that can differ in any sort of possibility. Maybe I called GVH a booger-head, which caused him to push me; or maybe GVH pushed me to keep me from getting hit by a car. Different views, different knowledge of what accounts for the pushing, leads to different truths. But it does not excuse the fact that GVH pushed me.
Makes sense to me. Maybe one day someone will be fortunate enough to come across my blathering. But until then, it's just me satisfying my black needs. Thanks. :)
korkster | July 29, 09:33 CET