Welcome (back) to the Dollhouse.
A New Pilot? A New Hope? A Prequel? A Nyquil? What's the skinny on DOLLHOUSE and why doesn't this link to anything?
Hi guys. Well, it’s been an eventful week. While all of you have been enjoying (and in some cases, suddenly NOT enjoying) our adorable little musical romp “Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog” (exclusively available on iTunes!) (And I lied about some people not enjoying it!) I’ve been busying myself with a little something I like to call DOLLHOUSE. Finishing a new episode. Finishing a new… here’s the headline… FIRST episode.
What’s that, you say? A second first? How can such a thing be? Does it defy the laws of all physics? Well, I sat down with Rutherford D. Actualperson to do a quick Q&A and give you all the skinny on the progress of my new series (Available on iTunes at some point one would assume!)
Rutherford D. Actualperson: Joss. You are a legend in the industry, and your forehead is a normal size proportionate to your face. Tell me about the idea behind doing a new first episode. Didn’t you already shoot one?
Joss: Yes, Ruhthie, I did. And it was grand, simply grand.
R.D.A: Then why shoot another? Also, your teeth are whitish.
Joss: I said it was grand, I didn’t say it was comprehensible. I showed some scenes to David Lynch and he’s all, “whuh?” Bad sign. But I kid.
The fact is, I’m very proud of the ep we shot and the series is making me crazy with the excitement. But I tend to come at things sideways, and there were a few clarity issues for some viewers. There were also some slight issues with tone – I was in a dark, noir kind of place (where, as many of you know, I make my home), and didn’t bring the visceral pop the network had expected from the script. The network was cool about it, but not sure how to come out of the gate with the ep.
R.D.A.: So they made you do another. It’s Firefly all over again! Run! For the love of God, HE’S CALLING FROM THE HOUSE!!!
Joss: Wow. Good panic.
R.D.A.: I try. But I am genuinely concerned. Also your smooth skin and elegant hands are making me bi-curious.
Joss: Well, the idea to do a new first episode wasn’t the network’s. It was mine. I understood their consternation, and saw the gap between my style and their expectations, and I suggested I shoot a new ep and make the one I’d shot the second. It isn’t going to be buried, like the pilot of Firefly. It’s simply coming after another, slightly cleaner ep. And because unlike Firefly, it isn’t a two hour epic which introduces everyone to each other, the onus isn’t on the new ep to explain a million things.
The fact is, Fox ordered the series before we shot a frame and then, after the strike, I had literally two months to write and prep the whole thing. Which means simply that the network has to figure out what they might want to tweak AFTER it was shot, unlike a pilot. Buffy didn’t make the fall sched, Angel got shut down when they saw the second ep outline… it’s birth pangs. The network truly gets the premise (this is a whole new crew, as you know), loves the cast, is excited about the show – but they’re also specific about how they want to bring people to the show and I not only respect that, I kinda have to slap my forehead that I didn’t tailor my tone and structure to the network’s needs, since that’s something I pride myself on.
R.D.A.: You’re not just being the good soldier?
Joss: We both know from years of experience that I’m a crap soldier, though I am an accomplished fan-dancer. No, this is a very cold look at what’s going on, and it’s not an Us vs Them. The truth is, I’m in love with this world, and I don’t care how people get into it. I have a million things to say about (and through) all of these characters, and I don’t mind which ones I say first. I think I just turned in a pretty cool pilot script. [Editor’s note: that means someone TOLD him THEY thought it was cool. He has no judgement of his own. This is sad, but on the plus side, it was probably one of his writers, who actually ARE cool. So rest easy.]
R.D.A.: So what does this mean for production?
Joss: We’ve pushed an extra few days so I can prep this bitch within an inch of its life, i.e., read it once more.
R.D.A.: But how will this affect the foundation of the very turning of our precious earth, and by that I mean Comiccon?
Joss: Yeah. Unfortunately, we won’t have a new teaser to show, since we’ll start shooting after the con. People will have to settle for chatting with Eliza and Tahmoh. But they’re likeable folk. (Sadly, Tahmoh only speaks Canadian, though he has a lovely translator at his side, like Isabella Rosselini in “White Nights”.) We’ll still rock the panel, but showing clips is kind of a tradition, so my emoticon doth frown.
R.D.A.: And the first first episode?
Joss: I’ll reshoot a few scenes, but it’ll basically air as is. When I was given seven episodes, I referred to them as “the Seven Pilots”, ‘cause you always have to lay out the premise one way or another in those early eps. So instead of Grumpy, this particular episode will be Sneezy. (Seriously. Eliza fights POLLEN! Sooo sexy.)
R.D.A.: So Eliza’s still a different character every week?
Joss: Often several.
R.D.A: And in the Dollhouse, the amazing-looking facility where all the beautiful people whose memories have been wiped live in a state of unselfconscious innocence, the showers are co-ed? [Editor’s note: the showers are co-ed?]
Joss: The showers are co-ed. [Editor’s note: HOT damn.]
R.D.A.: So nothing of substance has been changed. Shower-wise.
Joss: You are a sad, lonely actual man, Actualman.
R.D.A.: So true, so true. Thank you for talking/fan-dancing to me. Anything else you’d like to add?
Joss: Available exclusively on iTunes! Oh. About Dollhouse? Only that it’s going to be a funhouse ride of excitement, fear, existential angst and co-ed showers. That I love it. Love the writers, love the cast, and already blissfully live in the strange, compelling world of the removable self. Hmm. When I pitched it to Eliza, she said “My God, it’s my life!” But after that sentence, I think maybe it’s mine.
R.D.A.: I guess we’ll have to wait till January to see what you’ve cooked up.
Joss: And I’ll probably keep cooking till the moment I serve.
R.D.A.: Would you hold me?
Joss: Yes, Ruhthie. Yes I will.
[Editor’s note in Strongbad’s voice: IT’S OVER!]


pat32082 | July 22, 04:04 CET
buffyfanatic18 | July 22, 04:04 CET
Can't wait for Dollhouse. It'll be so awesome that socks will blow off ... and reveal lederhosen.
Tonya J | July 22, 04:06 CET
It's a coping thing.
sleeper | July 22, 04:07 CET
JossMcGyver really knows us.Also: It'll be interesting to see the second episode now and see if it would've worked better or worse as a pilot. I see lovely threads (lacy, gently wafting threads) in our future. Also: whee!
ETA: spelling names correctly: hard.
[ edited by GVH on 2008-07-22 04:09 ]
GVH | July 22, 04:07 CET
Good luck on the new first episode, I'm very much looking forward to Dollhouse, and thanks so much for Dr. Horrible!
Lirazel | July 22, 04:07 CET
I just snorted iced tea up my nose.
eta: Also, cannot wait for Dollhouse.
[ edited by awkwardjonas on 2008-07-22 04:08 ]
awkwardjonas | July 22, 04:07 CET
crazygolfa | July 22, 04:09 CET
Banter | July 22, 04:13 CET
And a Strong Bad reference at the end.
But in serious...ality... now, Joss, I have to say I'm excited for this. Obviously there's always going to be wrinkles with new shows (not just with FOX ones...) and it's good that hopefully they can be ironed out long before they become creases.
Basically, I'm really glad that YOU decided to make a new pilot, instead of being forced to write one in a weekend.
And with Dr. Horrible available (where again?) we have a recent dose of Jose to tide us over until all the ironing is done.
[ edited by jfhlbuffy on 2008-07-22 04:15 ]
jfhlbuffy | July 22, 04:13 CET
*gah* strong character development... I have missed you.
Also, Available exclusively on itunes!
notfadeaway | July 22, 04:13 CET
Jossfan_21 | July 22, 04:14 CET
Is that available on iTunes as well?
Dollhouse. Can't wait.
NYPinTA | July 22, 04:15 CET
evilmaharaja | July 22, 04:15 CET
notfadeaway | July 22, 04:16 CET
[ edited by narky on 2008-07-22 18:38 ]
narky | July 22, 04:16 CET
(Also this one post successfully made my not-so-manic Monday about 200% better. Mega points to Joss.)
uptheapples | July 22, 04:16 CET
Anonymous1 | July 22, 04:20 CET
crazygolfa | July 22, 04:23 CET
Thank you as ever for bothering to check in with us, Joss. And thank you and your people for the amazing, the wondrous "Dr. Horrible." It is legend.
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2008-07-22 04:26 ]
phlebotinin | July 22, 04:23 CET
RobinInSeoul | July 22, 04:24 CET
Any feedback from Musical God (Sondheim) on Dr. Horrible. Did he see it? Has he officially deemed you his successor?
SteveP | July 22, 04:25 CET
I can't wait to get to know and love these new characters and have them forever and ever.
Oh wait. Joyce, Tara, Quinn, Fred, Wesley, Book, Wash ...
Okay so maybe not forever, but I will enjoy them as long as I can.
shepherdbookshair | July 22, 04:26 CET
[ edited by shambleau on 2008-07-22 04:29 ]
shambleau | July 22, 04:28 CET
NYPinTA | July 22, 04:30 CET
Aviva | July 22, 04:31 CET
pat32082 | July 22, 04:31 CET
flak | July 22, 04:33 CET
(but next time maybe you could warn us ahead of time of who you plan to kill?)
embers | July 22, 04:39 CET
I'll bet he was all into Bad Horse, though*. (By the way, thanks a mazillion for Dr. Horrible. I, too, am a big fan of The Dark. Not just because I am dark. Well...actually I'm more milk chocolate than...never mind.)
So, you re-did the first episode. Will the original first ep be one of the DVD extras? With commentary? (See, some of us like to see how the sausage is made).I'm glad they're going to actually show the first (pilot) episode FIRST.
I'm sure they know that they would incur the wrath of The Fandom if they tried to pull the same crap they did with Firefly.
There are songs written about the mess they made with that show. Songs.
I'm just sayin'...
*I know you were kidding...t'was hi-larious!
[ edited by AmazonGirl on 2008-07-22 04:44 ]
[ edited by AmazonGirl on 2008-07-25 17:56 ]
AmazonGirl | July 22, 04:40 CET
But back on topic, I'm kind of confused by this. I don't recall being confused by the pilot script. That said, I'm extraordinarily curious to see how it could possibly work as a second episode, because right now I can't see it working as a second episode, at least not a particularly strong one.
I get that this sounds contradictory. How can it be a not particularly strong second episode if it would have been a strong first episode? But I don't know how to answer that without spoiling the script. (And I know others already have, but when I reviewed it I specifically didn't spoil it, so I'm not inclined to do so now either.)
Huh.
The One True b!X | July 22, 04:40 CET
LadyLaFae | July 22, 04:41 CET
Some think that Adam Guettel may have already claimed that title, but Mr. Joss, I think there's room at the successor table for the both of you!
floofypooh | July 22, 04:42 CET
Oh, and there's The Paper.
What the shit, "Under Your Spell/Standing (Reprise)" just came up on Winamp. It's like Joss is inside my computer.
[ edited by Polter-Cow on 2008-07-22 04:46 ]
Polter-Cow | July 22, 04:46 CET
AmazonGirl | July 22, 04:47 CET
Why do you create these strong women characters?
Excited about Dollhouse. Trying to keep it reigned in.
Kiba | July 22, 04:48 CET
I take that to mean the actual filmed episode did not *entirely* live up to the glory that was the script; and rather than re-film that script he decided to write an entirely new first episode.
kalia | July 22, 04:51 CET
:D
Lupe
[ edited by HowlingLupe on 2008-07-22 04:51 ]
HowlingLupe | July 22, 04:51 CET
January cannot come sooner. Literally, it can't. If it could, I'd make it. If I had a freeze-ray, I could stop time, but that would be counter-productive. So yeah.
Oh, and thank you so much. "It's okay, Joss Whedon will save us."
MySerenity | July 22, 04:54 CET
I can't wait to get to know and love these new characters and have them forever and ever.
Oh wait. Joyce, Tara, Quinn, Fred, Wesley, Book, Wash ...
Okay so maybe not forever, but I will enjoy them as long as I can.
[ edit ] shepherdbookshair | July 22, 04:26 CET
I forgot to add Penny to the list, yep, I liked the nerdy, sexy redhead.
shepherdbookshair | July 22, 04:54 CET
Yeah, see, this is where I did my everso charming laugh-snort.
Joss' post made me realize that we don't need to have highly original and intelligent questions prepared for ComicCon - we can just have Joss interview himself, because he is pithy.
Yes, and color me Dollhouse-soothed.
QuoterGal | July 22, 04:54 CET
swanjun | July 22, 04:55 CET
Whatever it ends up as, I'm really looking forward to this. /here's hoping that the BBC pick it up (it's doubtful I know, but they enjoyed Buffy so much, one can hope)
[ edited by MattK on 2008-07-22 04:56 ]
MattK | July 22, 04:55 CET
Haunt | July 22, 04:58 CET
My only real issue is I don't get how the pilot works as a second episode. But I guess I'll find out next year.
The One True b!X | July 22, 05:01 CET
Thank you so much for posting, we have been waiting to hear from you.
Joss, I wuv you so berry much especially after DHSAB. LOVE, I tell you (not in a scary way, just in an appreciative adoring fan kind of way).
[ edited by Hee on 2008-07-22 05:03 ]
NuVanessa | July 22, 05:02 CET
Vespa | July 22, 05:06 CET
kazzmere | July 22, 05:09 CET
The National Whedonological Service forecast: "A potent discharge of non-panicky precipitation, emanating from the Western Joss-stream, will meet the high fandom pressure system over the next 24-36 hours, resulting in a 50% chance of pockets of worrisome fan conditions."
Whedonage | July 22, 05:11 CET
also, I too am very pleased by your coed showers.
etf: idiot grammar
[ edited by Noclaf on 2008-07-22 05:13 ]
Noclaf | July 22, 05:13 CET
crazygolfa | July 22, 05:14 CET
Can't wait for Dollhouse and a Dr. Horrible sequel!!
Linnea1928 | July 22, 05:16 CET
ShanshuBugaboo | July 22, 05:20 CET
mouse | July 22, 05:24 CET
And if a computer version is available, any chance it will have subtitles?
sukrit | July 22, 05:27 CET
And... co-ed showers? I thought you went to Wesleyan, not Oberlin, O Titian-locked monarch of Jossocity!
TawnyJayne | July 22, 05:49 CET
I come by my paranoia and annoyingness honestly, and am not ashamed of them. I am not entirely reassured by the soothing words, but I'm very glad Joss made time to come say them himself, since "not entirely reassured" is better than that thing where all you can do is rock back and forth, which I might have done if it had come from another source.
dreamlogic | July 22, 05:53 CET
Silly me.
feliceg | July 22, 05:53 CET
I wish I could be as optimistuc as Joss but sadly all the "new crew" rhetoric doesn't work for me. Well, lets hope we at least get to see the "Seven Pilots" before it gets flushed.
Damn - and I'd almost dared to hope before this!
:-(
catalyst2 | July 22, 05:54 CET
10%ofnothin | July 22, 05:56 CET
Ed R | July 22, 05:58 CET
OzLady | July 22, 06:01 CET
Visions of Kevin Smith talking about his Superman experience have just come to mind for some reason. No, must not panic.
Okay, who here is now planning on recording the first episode, NOT watching it until they watch the (now) second episode, just so they can see if it works as a first episode?
No? Just me then.
(I know Joss said he's made small changes to the shot episode so it won't really work but...)
zz9 | July 22, 06:01 CET
kazzmere | July 22, 06:03 CET
I think I might be the only fan in the Whedonverse who has not, and cannot, see Dr. Horrible. Well, maybe the only fan in the Whedonverse who wants to and can't. Curse you, dial-up! Curse you, minimum-wage job! Curse you, me for flunking college three years in a row & never amounting to anything, 'cause it's all my fault I...oh. Sorry.
Jossir, I do believe you're my MuseFather. 'cause my writing very often tends towards the dark and depressing. That, or I've got a lot of issues to deal with, and I take it out in my writing. Hmm.
So far the only two new shows I'm looking forward to, both of which won't happen until winter, are Dollhouse and Merlin. Off to google Strongbad, 'cause I'm a dork & have no clue what/who it is.
ShadowQuest | July 22, 06:04 CET
I'm not all paranoid.
The One True b!X | July 22, 06:09 CET
cabri | July 22, 06:12 CET
jubal lives | July 22, 06:28 CET
platinumtlc | July 22, 06:34 CET
Joss, seriously. Where have you been? Sure, TV was cool back in the golden age, before Veronica Mars was cancelled and BSG jumped the shark. But then you came along, scraped together some chump change (which given that it was your change probably didn't feel so chump), and tried to do something on the intrawebs that was a just a little bit different from the sixty billion other different things people were doing. And you hit it so far out of the park, that it went freakin' transdimensional, and now smells like cumin.
TV is dead to me, because you killed it. How's that for irony?
It's a brave new world. The nightmare is real.
Did I fall asleep?
AlanD | July 22, 06:37 CET
It's almost like he thinks some of us have a tendency to over-react or a seething
hatewariness of networks. Hmmm, it's a mystery. Still eagerly awaiting the premiere no matter what, even if you do listen to Lynch's likely suggestion to add more bunnies.On a different note: Thank you (and J, M, Z) for sharing Dr. Horrible with us. It was wonderful. Frankly I'm at a bit of a loss for words but it obviously moved us all here on the black, so an inadequate 'thank you' is offered.
onthedrift | July 22, 06:41 CET
Blasphemer! ;)
The One True b!X | July 22, 06:44 CET
Gazzy | July 22, 06:46 CET
Nebula1400 | July 22, 06:59 CET
Horrible has gotten me really excited for Dollhouse. I keep envisioning a cross between Charlie's Angels, Fantasy Island, and the Bionic Woman, but that might be because my imagination stopped developing new concepts towards the end of the seventies.
daikiki | July 22, 07:08 CET
Simon | July 22, 07:21 CET
bojojoti | July 22, 07:35 CET
I deducted the other point 'cos Topher didn't play with his hair. Which, I'm sure you'll agree is the sign of a ten episode. That and stuff happening.
gossi | July 22, 07:48 CET
High five for the Homestar reference. And teen girl squad to boot.
I can't believe I just said "to boot." I never thought I would hear my fingers type those words. Together.
What was I talking about?
Oh. Dollhouse! Woohoo!
Giles_314 | July 22, 08:12 CET
The One True b!X | July 22, 08:12 CET
WhedonTrivia | July 22, 08:13 CET
badwolf | July 22, 08:37 CET
On the plus side I'll have (hopefully) a season worth of Dollhouse to look forward to when I get back. And 8 months of Buffy season 8 to catch up on!
Carmie | July 22, 08:37 CET
Caroline | July 22, 08:39 CET
Nonetheless, I can't wait for Dollhouse (I'm planning on hibernating some until it comes). And as a sidenote, I can't wait to see how Joss kills...
*SPOILER ALERT!*
Buffy/Jenny/Joyce/Buffy/Tara/Doyle/Spike/Cordy/Fred/Wes/Book/Wash/Gunn/Kitty/Renee/Penny/Topher in the show.
And my apologies to any dead characters I may have forgotten...
leafblown | July 22, 08:44 CET
As the founder and sole member of the soon to be closed down "SAVE DOLLHOUSE FROM JOSS" campaign (in upper case to show its importance) I welcome this news.
That's some really beautiful writing. And I'm sorry you're not able to show the reel. But still there's always the season 2 reel for next year's Comic Con.
Simon | July 22, 08:57 CET
And Dr. Horrible was legendary. You really have started what I think will be a revolution with that production. Come to DVD, Horrible...
Break_Atmo | July 22, 09:27 CET
sock monkey | July 22, 09:30 CET
The news doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies but even if the folk at Fox are dead set on supporting Joss 110% (extra ten percent as a sort of mathematical reward for the perfect proportionality of his forehead) it's fair to say that part of that might be taking his amazing vision and helping him make something that's gonna be successful with a mass audience. So long as there's enough vision left, I can deal.
I think Joss should interview himself like this at least once a month.
And if he were to post them some of the time, bonus !
(as to the purple BTW, maybe Caroline just picked it cos she likes it but i've always assumed it's cos purple is the colour of royalty and round here, that's what the Whedonverse peeps amount to. And it ties in perfectly with their penchant for summary execution - made of win ;)
Saje | July 22, 10:05 CET
re the itunes, would be nice if that was UK too, as Dr. H is not threatening these shores through your digital medium of choice.
jowonio | July 22, 10:07 CET
Oh, wait...
Sly | July 22, 10:10 CET
Caroline | July 22, 10:22 CET
And also, I think Ruthie has a man crush on our Jossy. Wonder if Ruthie knows that Joss Whedon is really him? Ack! All confused now, must lie down.
Oh, before then, thanks for the update your Purple Mighty-ness, as usual, that was way fun! Loving everything you do (in a mostly appropriate way)! Yay Joss! Yay Dollhouse!
Also, Yay Caroline! Yay pretty purple on black!
[ edited by Jossaholic on 2008-07-22 10:36 ]
RollingInKittens | July 22, 10:34 CET
*sigh* I'm glad you feel this way about Dollhouse, Oh Purple One, but don't/didn't you feel this way about SereniFly as well? Call me Greedy (The 8th Dwarf), but it would sure be nice-ish if we could have Millions of things from Both worlds. In any case, I'm really looking forward to Doll House, and will gladly accept any stories from you.
-And Dr Horrible available on ITunes? I am So there! :)
TDBrown | July 22, 10:37 CET
And it makes the site pretty much photocopy proof, handy.
Saje | July 22, 10:57 CET
Naturally, I was somewhat concerned that a new pilot had to be made, but if the old one is to be preserved almost in its entirety, then I suppose we don't have much to worry about. These are your characters, Purple One, and you know how to work them. January can't come soon enough!
And the purple really does look pretty on black!
Valentyn | July 22, 11:12 CET
And here's hoping you keep the first 'first' episode as maybe an extra-treat on the dvd/blu-ray box set.
You're fans are all salavating for this.
By the way - which season of Dollhouse are you bringing Tony or Chiwetel in as the Big Bad (just a guess and a hope???).
Rogue Demon Hunter | July 22, 11:59 CET
J Linc | July 22, 12:12 CET
Will you hold me????
spike_lover | July 22, 12:21 CET
I'm still mad about Dr. Horrible (yeah, enjoying and then suddenly NOT enjoying was right on the money), but I'm sure I'll get over it by the time Dollhouse airs. And I also really appreciate the heads-up about the pilot change. I couldn't take another Firefly mistreatment (I am emotionally fragile when it comes to Joss productions, apparently.)
library hooligan | July 22, 12:34 CET
I think we all are.
Thanks for the update Joss! I can't wait for Dollhouse!
nna_funk | July 22, 12:47 CET
I will not panic. I have faith. Faith manages. (Ah, c'm on, someone go for the bonus points here. And not the obvious one) ;-)
That pretty much explains everything, along with the David Lynch quote. And since it's a given that our Fearless Leader would never agree to dumb it down, maybe a little more comprehensibleness was indeed in order. Haven't/wont read the original scrips before airing time, but maybe it just didn't translate quite like an "introductory" ep needed to.
I am so going to use that, most likely annoyingly often. Fair warning.
Shey | July 22, 12:55 CET
And no, I'm not calling you a knight. You are far greater than any knight, sir.
Mrs.BigPileofDust | July 22, 13:06 CET
Blasphemer! ;)
theonetruebix | July 22, 06:44 CET
Yo and yeah-huh, no shark has been jumped. There will be no jumping of sharks here, on that I would bet my new computer.
Which is BTW a HP Pavillion, Athlon 64x2 duel procerssor 3GB RAM 500 GB hard drive with a 16 inch wide screen slimline monitor. in case anyone was wondering ;-)
Shey | July 22, 13:09 CET
I would seriously be happy to give
We'reDoomed | July 22, 13:10 CET
DaddyCatALSO | July 22, 13:24 CET
Craig Oxbrow | July 22, 13:27 CET
Is it wrong that I now have to add Rutherford D. Actualperson to my list of People Who Deserve Fenworshipping?
[ edited by evilmaniclaugh on 2008-07-22 13:36 ]
evilmaniclaugh | July 22, 13:35 CET
Numfar PTB | July 22, 13:38 CET
Thanks for Dr Horrible Joss! It was brilliant. (But now all further praise will be withheld until there's a sequel)
Let Down | July 22, 13:42 CET
Is it January yet? Open the DOLLHOUSE!
and
Thanks, Mr. Joss Whedon.
Maeve | July 22, 13:47 CET
(i kid, i kid!) ^_^
the FAT indian | July 22, 13:53 CET
Anyway, it sounds to me like the original first episode was bit too subtle/dark/slow/complex and Fox wanted something "punchier" (more action, more straightforward, more fun). That does sound troublingly like the Firefly debacle, but if Joss says it's different, and if Joss made the decision himself specifically to write/shoot a new first episode, I trust that it will go well and is not a sign of Big Bad-ness (even if re-watching Season 7 right now makes me wince at every mention of "the First.")
Septimus | July 22, 13:57 CET
TiffintheOK | July 22, 14:11 CET
Numfar PTB | July 22, 14:12 CET
meimei42 | July 22, 14:20 CET
I'm not worried about Dollhouse. Dr. Horrible has me feeling all optimistic. (I mean, the success of Dr. Horrible, not the story of Dr. Horrible, which, though I love it, I probably wouldn't describe as optimistic.:))
jcs | July 22, 15:07 CET
AlanD | July 22, 15:33 CET
...
Thanks for the updates Joss!
And I bet if we had heard this news from a news blog or something we'd be all: 'OMG! OMG! It's Firefly again!' ... *I know I would...* , so that was nice. To have all explained by you and all your purple fun.
maxsummers | July 22, 15:59 CET
Interesting that Joss' imaginary interviewer has the same initials as Richard Dean Anderson. Also interesting that I'm now secretly really hoping for that MacGyver/SG-1/Dollhouse crossover that GVH suggested way up top of the thread. Definite possibilities, there. :)
Cheers for the update though, Joss. That will hopefully prevent a lot of incorrect speculation over the reasons you decided to reshoot the pilot. Amazing how information from someone with actual knowledge of factual type facts can help to keep the interwebby rumour mill at bay.
The Highlander | July 22, 16:09 CET
Sunfire | July 22, 16:11 CET
cabri | July 22, 16:24 CET
Although we'd all be sitting around going, "Who is this person and why do I care about his typings?"
The One True b!X | July 22, 16:37 CET
in the congenial tone set by joss himself, if the fox folks are trying to make this a successful run, then i'm on-board. if there is a third first ep, however, i'll take that as a really bad omen.
haney-hop | July 22, 16:41 CET
cabri, wouldn't that be pointless, now that Dr. Horrible is no longer available in its former streaming (lacy, gently streaming)[1] glory?
lol :)
[1] yes, I'm never going to grow tired of misusing that quote
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GVH | July 22, 16:44 CET
voicetyping. Thrilled about Dollhouse and glad that things seem to be going better with Fox this time 'round.missmuffet | July 22, 17:04 CET
Although we'd all be sitting around going, "Who is this person and why do I care about his typings?"
It would be the best, strangest blog ever. Like fafblog without the political satire.
Sunfire | July 22, 17:11 CET
Putting this together with the whole "pimping" and "whoring" discussion we had with Joss some time back, could we assume the "Purple Pimp" in the ELE scene represented Joss in the story?
(Now heading for a rock to crawl under for safety... or quietly unnoticed death...)
Nebula1400 | July 22, 17:25 CET
TheGamut | July 22, 17:29 CET
totally my new catchphrase as well, shey.
starbreez | July 22, 17:31 CET
Madhatter | July 22, 17:44 CET
Firefly Flanatic | July 22, 17:47 CET
You are one kookie man, Mr. Joss. Kookie. :-)
pat32082 | July 22, 04:04 CET
OMJ!!! He's me! Kookie + Dork = Korki
HA HA HA HA HA *coughs* *drinks water*
We're the exact same person in terms of talking/interviewing one's self and possibly smoking something (not confirmed by either party). 'Cept for that Joss has a better frontal lobe than I do, smoother hands that make me stay just curious, and I'm sure he doesn't squeal when I type something (unlike me on his works).
Man, my fangirl is screaming on the inside right now! Well, not on the outside because I'm at work and that would be bad if I were caught not working because then I couldn't get paid and afford the things I want to buy at Comic-Con. Joss, you trickster, you!
And, yes, I too print out all of Joss' blogs (yay!) to read and make me chuckle. I was so distracted and really reading his words that I totally missed the part where we're supposed to panic and run for the hills. Joss is sneaky like that. Talk about drugged. I'm going to be on clouds all day! :)
And, hey, don't worry about the clip. That just gives us more time to ask you questions! Dun dun dun!!
Hey, Joss, what music do you have on your iPod? Is DHSAB on there?? Hey, Felicia, why do you think he killed off your subtle yet strong female character?
Oh, Caroline, thank you so much for making Joss purple. It makes him & his words that much more huggable. :)
*big grin* *tears a little* *wonders how a silly blog can have this much effect over a person... must be the coffee... WAY too much caffiene*
korkster | July 22, 18:05 CET
This, literally, made my day.
I cannot wait for 'Dollhouse'.
And yes, it is nice to hear Joss's melodic
voicetyping.Amanda0 | July 22, 18:24 CET
lax01 | July 22, 19:05 CET
I never do this, I almost never watch TV online ('cept for this one time when the machine deleted a pivotal episode of Lost), but I'm gonna download Dollhouse just this once. I just wanna see if Original Episode 1 is as new-viewer-unfriendly to me as the execs may've thought.
Anyone know if it's readily available out there ? Is it okay to ask that ? I know we can't link to file-sharing, but is it okay to enquire about them ?
[ edited by Kris on 2008-07-22 21:08 ]
Kris | July 22, 21:08 CET
Saje | July 22, 21:13 CET
luis1210 | July 22, 21:29 CET
hacksaway | July 22, 21:38 CET
Saje | July 22, 21:39 CET
Simon | July 22, 21:42 CET
Presumably that'd make the old first episode "Serotoniny" ?
Saje | July 22, 21:46 CET
Simon | July 22, 21:47 CET
Sunfire | July 22, 21:50 CET
I am now even more excited than before, which I wasn't sure was possible.
January seems so,so far away.
okelay | July 22, 21:56 CET
And back on topic, who knew Joss had elegant hands. :) I must confess that I too would like to see the first now-non-pilot even more than before.
onthedrift | July 22, 21:57 CET
Madhatter | July 22, 22:26 CET
embers | July 22, 22:28 CET
*Raises hand* I offer to translate! I speak fluent American and Canadian.
For instance, when people ask if Tahmoh has ever done live theater, I can explain they mean theatre.
Lioness | July 22, 23:52 CET
David Lynch takes up 100% of my processor usage. If the pilot was more confusing than his work I might have to eat sno-cones while watching. (uhmm...like supercooling the cpu. Its funny to me.)
GrrrlRomeo | July 23, 01:09 CET
I really hope that the compromise isn't too big of a deal, and even though I haven't read the pilot script, I have heard bits, and I'm one of those wondering how it would function as a second episode...
Well, Joss, I shall put my trust in you!
(Just don't kill the girl I pine for at the laundromat.)
UnpluggedCrazy | July 23, 01:12 CET
[ edited by Love's Bitch on 2008-07-23 01:14 ]
Love's Bitch | July 23, 01:14 CET
No, not watching is not an option.
RBB | July 23, 01:25 CET
“I showed some scenes to David Lynch and he’s all, ‘Whuh?’ Bad sign,” Whedon wrote. He continued later on in the post, “There were some slight issues with tone. I was in a dark, noir kind of place and didn’t bring the visceral pop the network had expected from the script.
Love the way they make it sound like Joss actually showed it David Lynch - cause I think the "I kid" part kind of meant he really didn't.
Since the writers stirke, I've taken to thinking of Variety as nothing more than occasionally amusing.
Znachki | July 23, 02:09 CET
It's too bad you don't have a daily Internet presence like some writes, but then it seems to me people like Neil Gaiman, Jane Espenson and Joe Mallozzi don't actually ever sleep.
This leads me to believe that all writes are vampires, or is that zombies?
ErynTzun | July 23, 06:10 CET
ErynTzun | July 23, 06:10 CET
Definitely vampires. Because unlike so many writers and a number of vampires, zombies are just so unattractive. As well as inarticulate. ;-)
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Shey | July 23, 15:59 CET
Also, Rutherford D Actualperson is really Joss? Is this anything like the Ben and Glory thing?
dev | July 23, 16:48 CET
Ben is Glory?
UnpluggedCrazy | July 24, 06:41 CET
Astoria_Potter | July 24, 07:53 CET
Ben is Glory?
UnpluggedCrazy | July 24, 06:41 CET
There must be something seriously wrong with me, because I just never get tired of the Ben/Glory thing, it always makes me chuckle ;-)
Maybe it's because in my most recent BtS re-watching, I just last night finished season 5. (Yes, as a late comer to the whedonverse party, I still do this.)
I keep saying I wont, but I always end up re-watching BtS, start to finish, usually during the summer when there's basically nothing on TV worth watching (for a picky TV snob like me who sticks with very few shows and so loves most of those with an unreasonable passion).
So now I think I'm at a point of curiosity as to "when will I get really sick of this?" And, how long will it take before I stop noticing delicious little touches I'd never noticed before?
And perhaps most interesting of all, how many more eps are there that I didn't like at all, at first, that I will eventually come to love or at least really appreciate, for various reasons?
Wait .... David Lynch is a vampire? I knew it. ;_)
Shey | July 24, 12:08 CET
Has Joss been checking out the Aussie Dollhouse?
JenskiJen | July 24, 15:16 CET
His quotes are often repeated as serious statements when he's being rather unserious or quasi-serious. People don't seem to interpret the nuances all that well unless they're familiar with how he speaks and interviews. Which is not most people.
Sunfire | July 24, 15:46 CET
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