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August 28 2008

Official FOX "Echo Chamber". Seemingly for real this time, the official FOX blog for Dollhouse is designed, beginning to be seeded with posts, and accessible.

They don't seem to yet have imported all the relevant entries from the Future on Fox blog yet, however.

FWIW, this URL coughs up a "don't have permission to access" error rather than the "not found on this server" error that was there as recently as a week ago.
The logo looks a little better now, reinforced by the subhead and against dark background & not on top of Eliza's face.

No content yet, 'zackly, except that portion of the old blog-posts from the Future Fox blog, but I suspect that'll come.

It does feel like movement's afoot...
I don't care what they call it, the acoustics are terrible, barely a reverberation at all.

Worried that that image of Nearly Headless Echo is starting to become "official" though, it's just weird and not right on many levels.
Yeah I really don't like that image. If I didn't know more about Dollhouse already I'd feel repelled. It always reminds me of that Tori Amos video, in a bad way.
Yeah, the picture of Echo is just too disturbing.

The problem is that her neck is in such shadow under the water that it looks like her head is not attached. They need to lighten up the neck a bit.
Yes, that is really disturbing, and I agree that it could repel new viewers.
I'm glad the resolution is better, since it brings more life to Eliza's expression, but now the water looks more like shiny black rock.

If her face was just below the surface, it might evoke woman-under-water stuff like:

1. Ophelia - giving up one's identity/life as a form of suicide.
2. Mermaids - fantasy creatures in a parallel world separate from our own and more magical.
3. Drowning - individuality submerged.

Or they could go with JLV's. This one looks like pool time.

ETA: OK, I got that video by searching for "woman under water" and didn't even watch the whole thing before I linked it. Just so we're clear. It started out a little Ophelia-on-the-brink and then went a little mermaid, so . . . good enough. I have no idea what the woman's singing about. Possibly synchronized swimming.

[ edited by Pointy on 2008-08-28 22:24 ]
Echo is submerged. I got a load of the Dollhouse posters from the FOX peeps, although I've no idea how to get them to people due to the fact they're posters.
Giant paper airplanes soaring across the pond?
Nearly Headless Echo

I will think of this every time I see this image.
It looks more like Eliza the Bearded Lady to me. But, then, I'm shallow. Like the water.
Yes, the Eliza picture is repulsive, and not in a good, "Oh, that's just what they were going for" way. And it's really hard to make Eliza repulsive.
I got a load of the Dollhouse posters from the FOX peeps, although I've no idea how to get them to people due to the fact they're posters.

Ooh! Ooh!. I know this one. I've done it. You tell people to send a self-addressed, postage-paid poster tube to an address (doesn't have to be your home). Then you just stick them in and post them back. Me first.
That would work if every country used the same currency stamps ;-)
Maybe we can get & put Brit-stamps on our return tube?

Me second!!
It does get a little more complicated internationally, for some countries, but it can still work. Talk to your postal people. It's totally simple from the the U.S. You go to the post office needing only the address of the beneficent gossi and five or six bucks. You buy a poster tube, fill out an international label and customs form. Oh, the compassionate gossi will probably have to do a customs form, too. 20 seconds, unless we're not worth that to you, dude. At the window, you also buy a label for postage back, and stick it in the tube. Done.
What happened to the shot of Eliza submerged, clasping her knees, in the original trailer? That was gorgeous.

"Out in the webiverse"? WTF??

[ edited by Shey on 2008-08-29 11:18 ]
Maybe we can get & put Brit-stamps on our return tube?

You could try getting some International Reply Coupons at the post office; they can be exchanged for return stamps in any country.
I suggest that the general procedure involve sticking small surprise presents in the tube for gossi as well.
Like a puppy for instance.
Or Alaska governor Palin.

Note to the authorities: I have no interest in actually stuffing Governor Palin into a tube.

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2008-08-29 16:37 ]
Tell it to the waterboard pal, cos the judiciary ain't listening.
For the record, I was picturing candy and those finger-size Grr Arrgh monsters when I wrote that. I don't want a poster, myself, but now I'm a little afraid of opening packages from people here. Especially from Scotland.
Luckily i've thought one house move and approximately 27 years ahead (or my parents did anyway).

Muhahahahahahaha.
That comparison of Fringe & Dollhouse posters, Simon, are interesting. I agree with the checklist, but the Fringe poster seems to be a better quality than Dollhouse. Not that that was the intention, mind you, but if she is submerged, as gossi says, then I guess it's just difficult capturing things underwater?

??

The website does have a better quality, but her head is still floating. Can they brighten it up? Why not just re-shoot? No one saw the floaty head while they approved this?

What was I saying? Oh, yes, the submerge/emerge thing...

Even if gossi's right & her head is under water, I want to play on if her head was above water. Dollhouse is a show about a person who's already "in deep" with the organization, and starts to recognize a spark in her that is "her"- she starts to become aware.

Pointy, I like your themes (well, not sure about the mermaid one):

1. Ophelia - giving up one's identity/life as a form of suicide.
2. Mermaids - fantasy creatures in a parallel world separate from our own and more magical.
3. Drowning - individuality submerged.


But, since Echo is starting to awaken to who Echo is, then I would agree that her head start to emerge out of the water. She is being born again (or at least remembering that she was born). You could also play on the "keeping your head above water". She is in deep, and still has to tread the waters of an illegal underground society of mind-wiped Dolls... so how does she do that and keep that spark that she found? Also, if we're only seeing a piece of her above the water, it's like the "tip of the iceberg"- there's so much more of Echo to discover. Water could represent her subconscious, and what other levels and depths we'll plunge through before she's "dry", whole, & complete.

I don't know. That's just my thoughts if her head was above water. Even if it isn't, it still seems that way to me.

Also, what's with the gun? Does it represent "real life" (no stakes), action, and danger? Or is it also a symbol to the crowds of Whedonites that this is a different take on strong female characters- guns are allowed and it's not going to be as "safe" (PG-ish related) as his previous shows?

And, Saje, for me to read your comments today, cock an eye-brow, and call you insane... I wonder what you put in your tea today and why you didn't share with me. You're reading nuttier than me these days... shall we compete for the trophy? ;)
Note to the authorities: I have no interest in actually stuffing Governor Palin into a tube.
theonetruebix | August 29, 16:34 CET


I do. Wait .... someone's knocking on my door ..............
All awesome points, korkster. But I think the moment before surfacing -- when Echo realizes there's something she's missing, something's wrong, and she has to take action to make it right -- is more interesting dramatically. A person floating in a pool is in no danger of drowning, can breathe, might even be kind of relaxed. Six inches deeper, and she might lose everything.

I blogged a bit about the gun in the link marked JLV above.
Coming out of the Labor Day weekend, they've started pulling in more of the posts previously posted to the Future on Fox blog. So, getting closer to being a "live" site.

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