FWIW, this URL coughs up a "don't have permission to access" error rather than the "not found on this server" error that was there as recently as a week ago.

The One True b!X | August 28, 20:18 CET

The logo looks a little better now, reinforced by the subhead and against dark background & not on top of Eliza's face.

No content yet, 'zackly, except that portion of the old blog-posts from the Future Fox blog, but I suspect that'll come.

It does feel like movement's afoot...

QuoterGal | August 28, 20:53 CET

I don't care what they call it, the acoustics are terrible, barely a reverberation at all.

Worried that that image of Nearly Headless Echo is starting to become "official" though, it's just weird and not right on many levels.

Saje | August 28, 21:04 CET

Yeah I really don't like that image. If I didn't know more about Dollhouse already I'd feel repelled. It always reminds me of that Tori Amos video, in a bad way.

Sunfire | August 28, 21:13 CET

Yeah, the picture of Echo is just too disturbing.

The problem is that her neck is in such shadow under the water that it looks like her head is not attached. They need to lighten up the neck a bit.

Septimus | August 28, 21:18 CET

Yes, that is really disturbing, and I agree that it could repel new viewers.

palehorse | August 28, 21:35 CET

I'm glad the resolution is better, since it brings more life to Eliza's expression, but now the water looks more like shiny black rock.

If her face was just below the surface, it might evoke woman-under-water stuff like:

1. Ophelia - giving up one's identity/life as a form of suicide.
2. Mermaids - fantasy creatures in a parallel world separate from our own and more magical.
3. Drowning - individuality submerged.

Or they could go with JLV's. This one looks like pool time.

ETA: OK, I got that video by searching for "woman under water" and didn't even watch the whole thing before I linked it. Just so we're clear. It started out a little Ophelia-on-the-brink and then went a little mermaid, so . . . good enough. I have no idea what the woman's singing about. Possibly synchronized swimming.

[ edited by Pointy on 2008-08-28 22:24 ]

Pointy | August 28, 21:58 CET

I like this analysis the best.

Simon | August 28, 22:20 CET

Echo is submerged. I got a load of the Dollhouse posters from the FOX peeps, although I've no idea how to get them to people due to the fact they're posters.

gossi | August 28, 23:13 CET

Giant paper airplanes soaring across the pond?

The One True b!X | August 28, 23:17 CET

Nearly Headless Echo

I will think of this every time I see this image.

jcs | August 28, 23:27 CET

It looks more like Eliza the Bearded Lady to me. But, then, I'm shallow. Like the water.

Gill | August 28, 23:37 CET

Yes, the Eliza picture is repulsive, and not in a good, "Oh, that's just what they were going for" way. And it's really hard to make Eliza repulsive.

UnpluggedCrazy | August 29, 01:20 CET

I got a load of the Dollhouse posters from the FOX peeps, although I've no idea how to get them to people due to the fact they're posters.

Ooh! Ooh!. I know this one. I've done it. You tell people to send a self-addressed, postage-paid poster tube to an address (doesn't have to be your home). Then you just stick them in and post them back. Me first.

dreamlogic | August 29, 01:33 CET

That would work if every country used the same currency stamps ;-)

Caroline | August 29, 06:35 CET

Maybe we can get & put Brit-stamps on our return tube?

Me second!!

QuoterGal | August 29, 08:02 CET

It does get a little more complicated internationally, for some countries, but it can still work. Talk to your postal people. It's totally simple from the the U.S. You go to the post office needing only the address of the beneficent gossi and five or six bucks. You buy a poster tube, fill out an international label and customs form. Oh, the compassionate gossi will probably have to do a customs form, too. 20 seconds, unless we're not worth that to you, dude. At the window, you also buy a label for postage back, and stick it in the tube. Done.

dreamlogic | August 29, 11:00 CET

What happened to the shot of Eliza submerged, clasping her knees, in the original trailer? That was gorgeous.

"Out in the webiverse"? WTF??

[ edited by Shey on 2008-08-29 11:18 ]

Shey | August 29, 11:04 CET

Maybe we can get & put Brit-stamps on our return tube?

You could try getting some International Reply Coupons at the post office; they can be exchanged for return stamps in any country.

. | August 29, 13:12 CET

I suggest that the general procedure involve sticking small surprise presents in the tube for gossi as well.

Sunfire | August 29, 15:31 CET

Like a puppy for instance.

Saje | August 29, 15:38 CET

Or Alaska governor Palin.

Note to the authorities: I have no interest in actually stuffing Governor Palin into a tube.

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2008-08-29 16:37 ]

The One True b!X | August 29, 16:34 CET

Tell it to the waterboard pal, cos the judiciary ain't listening.

Saje | August 29, 16:44 CET

For the record, I was picturing candy and those finger-size Grr Arrgh monsters when I wrote that. I don't want a poster, myself, but now I'm a little afraid of opening packages from people here. Especially from Scotland.

Sunfire | August 29, 16:50 CET

Luckily i've thought one house move and approximately 27 years ahead (or my parents did anyway).

Muhahahahahahaha.

Saje | August 29, 16:55 CET

That comparison of Fringe & Dollhouse posters, Simon, are interesting. I agree with the checklist, but the Fringe poster seems to be a better quality than Dollhouse. Not that that was the intention, mind you, but if she is submerged, as gossi says, then I guess it's just difficult capturing things underwater?

??

The website does have a better quality, but her head is still floating. Can they brighten it up? Why not just re-shoot? No one saw the floaty head while they approved this?

What was I saying? Oh, yes, the submerge/emerge thing...

Even if gossi's right & her head is under water, I want to play on if her head was above water. Dollhouse is a show about a person who's already "in deep" with the organization, and starts to recognize a spark in her that is "her"- she starts to become aware.

Pointy, I like your themes (well, not sure about the mermaid one):



But, since Echo is starting to awaken to who Echo is, then I would agree that her head start to emerge out of the water. She is being born again (or at least remembering that she was born). You could also play on the "keeping your head above water". She is in deep, and still has to tread the waters of an illegal underground society of mind-wiped Dolls... so how does she do that and keep that spark that she found? Also, if we're only seeing a piece of her above the water, it's like the "tip of the iceberg"- there's so much more of Echo to discover. Water could represent her subconscious, and what other levels and depths we'll plunge through before she's "dry", whole, & complete.

I don't know. That's just my thoughts if her head was above water. Even if it isn't, it still seems that way to me.

Also, what's with the gun? Does it represent "real life" (no stakes), action, and danger? Or is it also a symbol to the crowds of Whedonites that this is a different take on strong female characters- guns are allowed and it's not going to be as "safe" (PG-ish related) as his previous shows?

And, Saje, for me to read your comments today, cock an eye-brow, and call you insane... I wonder what you put in your tea today and why you didn't share with me. You're reading nuttier than me these days... shall we compete for the trophy? ;)

korkster | August 29, 23:43 CET