(SPOILER)
Spike: After the Fall #3 out now.
New issue of Spike:After the Fall released today.
I didn't see anyone else posting this even though it got released today, so here it is.
September 17 2008
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Giles_314 | September 17, 15:43 CET
The Alpha Gamer | September 17, 16:16 CET
And confusing, to Giles_314!
Brian Lynch | September 17, 16:21 CET
Seriously good work. The entire page with the kiss is very much appreciated :)
Illyria | September 17, 16:37 CET
Buffyfantic | September 17, 17:16 CET
archon | September 17, 17:22 CET
JerryJeremy lives!).embers | September 17, 17:28 CET
I am really getting into the thought of a Spike and Fred pairing. I love how protective he is of her. It reminds me of Spike and Dru. May never happen anymore than what we just got but it would be cool.
Loved everything. Bravo.
cheryl | September 17, 18:46 CET
I am still a bit confused... why did Spike and Illyria kiss? I never got a serious romantic vibe off of Spike & Fred, more like a fun flirty vibe. And isn't Illyria a powerful Old One? Can she feel such a human emotion as love? Also, I really wish we could get a difinitive timeline from someone. Brian? I know it is not necessary for the enjoyment of the comics, but... my OCD! It's slowly killing me!!
Anyway, loved the issue, am really excited for the conclusion.
[ edited by Giles_314 on 2008-09-18 04:34 ]
Giles_314 | September 17, 19:33 CET
TFAW just shipped my order. I'm so pumped.
dstroyer | September 17, 20:07 CET
Ok, something pretty crazy was pointed out to me about the slayers in this issue. Remember when Non kills them? Then remember when they're alive again so that Gunn can fight them? Remember these are the same slayers that later try to attack Betta George until Gunn kills them...again apparently? Some beaucoup de magic is going on. Also, how crazy that Gunn dropped all those weapons for the slayers to use on him. Has he magicked up the ultimate fighting/training ring complete with re-animated Slayers? It's exactly the kind of twisted, evil behavior I'd expect in the Angelverse. Reminds me of Lindsey's prison in Underneath where his heart keeps getting ripped out and he lives to experience the torture the next day.
I loved the Non/Gunn meeting and how Non had hoped she could parlay her capture of Spike and Illyria into a power play with Gunn. No dice, apparently. Non is an amazing badass villain - the "main stage" made up of skulls = chills. I think she's my favorite villain out of After the Fall or Season 8. I'm getting a little sad at the thought that she's going to die - is she, Brian? I know she should and I'll probably cheer on whoever does it, but dang what a great character. Sorry to see her imminent ass-kicking demise - she's one character I wouldn't mind being retconned in order for her to return. Well, actually I would mind the retcon, but I'd get over it and enjoy her return. See? Original characters can be awesome.
As for the Spike/Illyria kiss, I read that as her asserting her dominance over Spike - that his attention wasn't allowed to stray to another (in this case, Spider) and so she grabbed him and kissed him to remind him of his "priority". Didn't read anything romantic about it. Though if Illyria ever did have sex, I doubt there'd be anything romantic about that either. I think the only language Illyria speaks fluently is dominance and I'm not surprised that she would use sex to assert her power.
I liked that we got the explanation for how Betta George can read vampire minds - he's a Splenden beast. Sadecki demons can't get it done, but Splendens can read a vampire's mind. Nice little addition to the rules of the 'verse.
Great art by Urru - loved it. Especially the panel of Connor's entrance. All in all, an excellent issue. Can't wait for the finale to this piece. Sorry to see the end of Spike: After the Fall so near.
Emmie | September 17, 20:26 CET
archon | September 17, 20:50 CET
I won't be able to get this until tomorrow at the earliest. I tried to resist the spoilers, but couldn't, the purple post was just too much. Thanks for telling me it's awesome, Lynch, you just ruined it for me :D.
Eric_Curtis | September 17, 20:54 CET
God, I love Brian and Urru together! So very badly.
CowboyCliche | September 17, 21:11 CET
One of the best lines yet. I hereby formally nominate it to become part of the rotating quotes on the front page here at Whedonesque.
Spider/Maria really intrigues me. I hope we get to learn more about her. If not in the After the Fall series, maybe in a new series featuring Beck, Spider and Tok? Not sure how Spider would get along with the other two, but I loved Beck and Tok's interaction in Spike:Shadow Puppets.
I also like the explanation of why Betta George can read vampires' minds and the Sadecki demon could not. This ties in nicely with the mind-reading rules established in Earshot when Buffy was infected with the mind-reading aspect of a demon but still couldn't read Angel's mind.
I agree with Emmie. I read Illyria's kiss as a power/dominance move.
Poor Gunn. So twisted. Still believing himself the hero, but tormenting and killing Slayers.
Great book in a wonderfully enjoyable series. Brian keeps raising the bar with each book. I'm torn here. I can't wait to see how this ends in the next issue, but I don't want it to end. Thank you, Brian and Franco, for the sheer pleasure reading your books have brought to me.
MacGuffin | September 17, 22:56 CET
And there's a new colorist, is there? Possibly why I liked the art better than usual. I like the combination of this colorist and Urru, because it really brings out something in Urru's work, which I am usually not enamored of.
An exciting and fun read, just like the first two issues. I like how this comes without the heft or weight of either Buffy or Angel. It's a nice breather. (And considerably more than that, but you know what I mean.)
UnpluggedCrazy | September 17, 23:12 CET
This is what I like the most so far (another one I watched included Knox, but that seemed like fan-wishing fan-wankery, not trying to get it right, so...yeah...something somewhat official-looking).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I5NmhoHlHk
Do we know which actors/characters actually would have been in Season 6 had it happened, either as regulars or recurring ? Aside from Wesley not being meant to die in Season 5...Has Joss ever talked about who would and wouldn't be in Season 6 ? I know from being a little spoiled that Gwen, Connor, and Nina are in Brian Lynch's take on it. I'm just curious if Joss himself has said anything about their involvement.
Oh, and nice to see a return to the proper font from the series spelling out "Angel". I wasn't fond of what Dark Horse came up with for their 4-issue Volume 2 Angel mini-series.
[ edited by Kris on 2008-09-18 08:22 ]
Kris | September 17, 23:20 CET
Simon | September 17, 23:23 CET
Congratulations IDW!
Emmie | September 18, 11:02 CET
I know they have a lot of creator-owned material too, but it seems like most of IDW's current success can be attributed to TV and film property adaptations. They can be well-made at times (a lot of the Transformers stuff isn't, to be honest--I've read a few), but somehow it just seems kind of a cop-out way to claw your way to the top. I respect a publisher more for getting there by way of original creations tht become mainstays of that specific publisher. Dark Horse is sort of in the middle...to regular comic readers, they seem just as well-known for Hellboy as they are for being the license factory of such titles like Buffy, Star Wars, Aliens, and Predator.
I guess IDW had 30 Days of Night long before any of their adaptations got started up, so they're kind of on the same footing as Dark Horse.
Kris | September 18, 14:07 CET
archon | September 18, 15:22 CET
Brian Lynch | September 18, 22:54 CET
Congrats to IDW too!
The Londinium Sun | September 19, 04:30 CET
DaddyCatALSO | September 20, 08:44 CET
I LOVED THIS! I don’t recall being so entrapped in a comic like I did in this issue. I love everything about it – the lines just flow perfectly and the art is wonderful. Mmmm, darkness and angst with just enough funny. I can hear and see the events unfolding and I enjoyed every second of it. So many things, so little time, and it didn’t seem the least bit rushed. Although, a tiny bit sceptic on why Illyria would state her claim on Spike though mouth – maybe to clean the spider stink? Well. She has a lot to uhem- do to get that done. lol
I love the final reveal (Jerry’s alive. Yay. For how long?) and Connor coming to the rescue! Yay. I might get to see my ever awaited Spike/Connor familial boding. However, I really need to go back and recall how is it that everyone knows about Connor being Angel’s son – that never really hit well with me.
I cannot wait for the next issue to come out. I hope it’ll also blow my mind like this has. Thanks for an amazing issue, Brian and Franco! :D
Mirage | September 21, 04:28 CET
fangless | September 23, 06:54 CET