Whedonesque : Comments on 17652 : (SPOILER) Will Buffy triumph tonight at the Emmys?

I hope they show it and I honestly don't doubt it. How can BUFFY not win an online poll? We crashed the internet when Dr. Horrible was released for God's sake. :D

Donnie | September 21, 19:37 CET

I never watch the Emmys; it's just an exercise in futility and frustration for me. But I just may try to watch tonight, and I'll definitely be updating this thread during the show to see what you all are thinking...

floofypooh | September 21, 19:42 CET

Maybe "sacrificial leap of faith to save the world"? Or "the Ripley-like swandive minus the wee sci fi belly creature?"

Pointy | September 21, 19:50 CET

I think I'll skip this and watch the YouTube if Buffy wins. Sigh, or maybe I'll watch. I can't decide. Does anyone know when during the show this'll be, roughly? Start, middle, end?

Jobo | September 21, 19:52 CET

I vote for any sentence that has the phrase "wee sci fi belly creature" in it.

kalia | September 21, 19:54 CET

Does anyone know when during the show this'll be, roughly?

The winner will be announced before they unveil which show won Best Drama. So towards the end then?

Simon | September 21, 19:54 CET

Best Drama (Go Lost!) is the last award of the night, so if it is announced directly before that, it would be just before the end of the show.

twinkiefoo | September 21, 20:10 CET

Best Drama is usually the very last award. I imagine the fan voted on spots will be sprinkled throughout the entire 3+ hour broadcast.

TamaraC | September 21, 20:11 CET

Read on the internet that Dana Delaney said that Nathan Fillion will be escorting her to the Emmy's.

Anonymous1 | September 21, 20:30 CET

I would just be tickled pink if BtVS finally wins a well deserved award...."About time."

Madhatter | September 21, 20:30 CET

Madhatter, winning a fan voted on ABC poll is not the same as winning anything from the Academy. This is a ratings stunt, not a real award. Maybe I am just being cynical, but I have not seen anywhere that this is being awarded by the Academy.

TamaraC | September 21, 20:41 CET

Oh TamaraC, you had to go and spoil the moment.

Madhatter | September 21, 20:56 CET

Even though it has nothing to do with the Academy, Buffy hopefully being shown during the Emmys is pretty extraordinary. It could even be a "na na na na na" towards the Academy.

hitnrun017 | September 21, 20:57 CET

I have a renewed respect for the Academy this year. My good friend Jim Kelly won the Outstanding Picture Editing for a Special Emmy for Justin Timberlake: Future Sex/Love Show last week. The best part, we called my friend Doogie growing up because he resembled the Creative Arts Emmy host NPH when they were kids. I may not be able to contain myself if Buffy wins Most Dramatic Moment.

Randy Giles | September 21, 21:13 CET

This is a ratings stunt, not a real award.

Is it even being presented as an award? I figured it might be something like a montage, like they do at the Oscars when they start a new category, showing clips from great movies past and whatnot. Here's how I pictured it going down:

Host comes out, says something like "Drama. It has a blah blah blah in all of our lives. The characters blah blah touch us. Here are some of the most classic dramatic moments in TV, as voted on in our ABC online poll." Then the montage starts and the five finalists are shown in order-- Buffy at the end, if she wins (and much applause in the audience). Then they come back, open the envelope, and say "And the winner is..."

dispatch | September 21, 21:18 CET

I think it's great, it makes up for our first entry 6 years ago.

Simon | September 21, 21:21 CET

Sorry, gang, but...the 2-0 Packers are facing the 2-0 Cowboys tonight @Lambeau Field. And I just know that's going to be WAY more exciting than umpitty "I want to thank God and my mother" speeches from a bunch of actors, directors, producers, soundmen and others from shows I don't watch or even know about.

Love Buffy, but...the Packers are my first love.

But I do hope it wins. I still think they should've redone the clip a bit, for the impact of the Scoobies' reactions, though.

ShadowQuest | September 21, 21:22 CET

I think it's great, it makes up for our first entry 6 years ago.

I went to the link. After all that, Simon, did Joss get nominated?

Tonya J | September 21, 21:30 CET

Sorry to bust the delusions of grandeur, Madhatter. It's a dirty job but someone has to enjoy it.

TamaraC | September 21, 21:31 CET

I went to the link. After all that, Simon, did Joss get nominated?

I don't think he did.

Simon | September 21, 21:32 CET

Wouldn't that be nice - at last? ^^

cleveland | September 21, 21:32 CET

Montages are sometimes more remembered than winners... if they are done right.

NYPinTA | September 21, 22:01 CET

I watch it to see what they're wearing. I know my shows/actors never win.

redeem147 | September 21, 22:12 CET

Sorry to bust the delusions of grandeur, Madhatter.

What on earth are you talking about, TamaraC? Did I wrong you in some sort of way?

Madhatter | September 21, 22:23 CET

I think the odds are quite good that the Buffy scene will be one of the top five. Buffy may not have won any major awards for Joss or the actors, but it would be some small poetic justice to finally see a scene played during the telecast. And even more to have, perhaps, some people in the industry sit up and take notice. Maybe it won't happen, but it makes me happy that it might.

Tonya J | September 21, 22:31 CET

I'm a sucker for awards shows. I love the "costumes," the hokey speeches, the excessive drinking (well, at the People's Choice Awards anyway), the sometimes-forced humor and the many more genuine moments where working actors, directors, etc. get some recognition for the work they do. Yes, I know there are myriad more who DON'T get recognized, but I'll bet my bippy they sit at their TV sets (or in bars for those who can't afford a TV) and say, "Someday that will be me." Even if it never is, hope lives for that moment. (G'd, I really am a sap, aren't I?!?!)

And please?! Football over the Emmys!?!? Get the to a nuttery! *teasing* ;-)

OzLady | September 21, 22:34 CET

I'll be watching to see if Danny Strong (Jonathan), who's nominated as writer of a Telefilm or Miniseries, wins for the "Recount" script. Go, Danny!

Shapenew | September 21, 22:57 CET

Madhatter, I just didn't want anyone making the mistake of thinking this was some kind of official recognition of the show. You seemed to take offense at me pointing out the obvious. It is nice for ABC to include Buffy in their telecast, but there is no award involved. It is a ratings stunt. A nice ratings stunt, though.

TamaraC | September 21, 23:00 CET

I'll be keeping an eye on the ceremony just to see if NPH gets his dues as 'Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy'.
How awesome would it be if he wins it and manages to give a speech that plugs both HIMYM and Dr H?!

Tonya J, after OMWF was left off the original Emmy voting ballot due to a 'printing error', an addendum was sent out which included it. However, many voters had already returned the original form or didn't want to go to the effort of filling out a separate form.
Joss was robbed and it is my most humble belief that the Emmys owe him, big time. (Forgive and forget? I don't think so!)

missb | September 22, 00:11 CET

I don't really care for awards... but I'd be nice, indeed.

Simon, this was Whedonesque first post ever????? Cool.

maxsummers | September 22, 00:19 CET

I'm mostly watching to see if NPH wins. I'm interested in other people/shows as well,like 30 rock,Pushing Daisies and Dexter.
The emmys are kind of fun to watch with other people,to comment, the awards themselves are boring.

okelay | September 22, 00:30 CET

Nathan just popped up on the CW's red carpet show with Dana Delaney. Looking good. Oh and there's Christina Hendricks.

hacksaway | September 22, 00:33 CET

^ I just logged in to say the same thing hacksaway. :P

Rhodey | September 22, 00:41 CET

David Boreanaz and wife Jaime Bergman picture somewhere in a group of 500 pics. Maybe #17

[ edited by Anonymous1 on 2008-09-22 03:13 ]

Anonymous1 | September 22, 00:44 CET

Pics of Neil on the Red Carpet-

NPH- well and truly suited up!
And with his partner- they look so happy.

missb | September 22, 01:06 CET

Neil lost!

okelay | September 22, 01:11 CET

Well that will teach me to check Whedonesque three hours early. Thanks, okelay.

TamaraC | September 22, 01:15 CET

I'm a little mad that Neil lost but there will always be next year!

badwolf | September 22, 01:15 CET

Perhaps we should spoiler tag this thread- you know, just in case people want to hold off on the inevitable crushing feeling of disappointment and despair for a few more hours.

missb | September 22, 01:20 CET

The announcement of winners on TV isn't technically a spoiler under site rules. Still, there's no harm in adding the tag for those who may be waiting to watch or check the results later on.

SoddingNancyTribe | September 22, 01:32 CET

Aren't the Emmys on at the same time everywhere, since it's a live broadcast?

redeem147 | September 22, 01:39 CET

Aw, NPH lost? That sucks. He does look proud and happy in those pictures, though. How're Danny's chances?

Simon, why is the first ever whedonesque thread numbered "8"? :). (Also, just imagine the amount of replies a post such as that would get nowadays. Seeing just the one comment seems... wrong, somehow ;)).

GVH | September 22, 01:40 CET

Stupid Emmy, that's another way she's 30 years behind the times, can't even be bothered to broadcast live to the west coast. Oscar manages it, for crying out loud! If I hadn't missed red carpet and want to see is Buffy made it, I wouldn't even bother this year. :( And I'm an awards show junkie!

cabri | September 22, 01:48 CET

Neil Patrick Harris and David Burtka picture somewhere in the group

[ edited by Anonymous1 on 2008-09-22 03:00 ]

Anonymous1 | September 22, 01:51 CET

cabri, Seriously? Is not live for the west coast?? O.o
It's live here in Brazil! How can it not be live for the west coast! That's just... stupid!

maxsummers | September 22, 01:52 CET

From CNN:

Nathan Fillion, a star of "Desperate Housewives," joked (presumably) that his black-on-black tuxedo came from a friend's closet. "He has very good taste," he told CNN.

Rachelkachel | September 22, 02:05 CET

Stupid doesn't begin to cover it, maxsummers. All the west coasters are abandoning twitter to avoid the spoilers. (None from me, though, honest!)

cabri | September 22, 02:07 CET

Who did NPH lose to? Sorry, I don't have a TV. Let me know how Buffy does!

Linnea1928 | September 22, 02:07 CET

Sorry already here.

[ edited by Anonymous1 on 2008-09-22 02:11 ]

Anonymous1 | September 22, 02:08 CET

cabri, that is indeed one of the more stupid things I've heard today. Has it always been that way?

Anonymous1, I can't seem to find the picture you're talking about. On the other hand, I did find Mary-Louise Parker. I've had a secret television crush on her, ever since her role in 'The West Wing'. Here's hoping she'll turn up in a Joss Whedon project one day.

GVH | September 22, 02:08 CET

GVH, I think I remember that all the award shows were on tape delay until the Oscars somehow figured out how to do it live on the west coast. (Maybe someone stole their VCR one year?) But I might be wrong because I never really thought about it until I came online three years ago.

Edited for typos. *sighs*

[ edited by cabri on 2008-09-22 02:15 ]

cabri | September 22, 02:13 CET

NPH lost to Jeremy Piven, from "Entourage". I've never seen the show (it's on a pay channel) but I've seen Jeremy Piven in other things and he is a very good actor.

floofypooh | September 22, 02:13 CET

GVH,

The link is leading to 377 pictures from the emmys??

Anonymous1 | September 22, 02:13 CET

Waiting from the west coast here, grumble grumble. As far as I know, it's always been this way.

electricspacegirl | September 22, 02:17 CET

David looks very serious. Maybe he's nervous? That's cute. 8)

cabri | September 22, 02:20 CET

David looks bored, not serious.

The One True b!X | September 22, 02:23 CET

Thanks floofypooh.

Linnea1928 | September 22, 02:24 CET

Hoping Buffy makes the top 5 as this is the most inept, painful to watch, so bad it's worse Emmy broadcast I've ever seen...

And Boreanez looked justifiably, if not appropriately, disgusted.

Brett | September 22, 02:31 CET

Wonder if he at least got to wear some crazy socks, al la Booth. Just cuz.

NYPinTA | September 22, 02:31 CET

Is it just me or are they not showing any of the clips from the categories? There was no West Wing, Simpsons or Desperate Housewives. Seems like they are just showing clips that have to do with the presenters. I don't expect them to show Buffy, even if she is in the Top Five.

hitnrun017 | September 22, 02:34 CET

Wow,NPH's honey is key-oot! :-D Not a bad consolation if one must lose an award. And I do loves me some Piven...

OzLady | September 22, 02:35 CET

I really hope they have Buffy at the top 5. Who else thought Josh Groban was hilarious?

badwolf | September 22, 02:36 CET

Recount!

The One True b!X | September 22, 02:37 CET

Recount won an award!

badwolf | September 22, 02:37 CET

badwolf, I did! Josh Grobin is tweaked. And to that I say, "Yay!"

Would it be irony if the other shows in that category demanded a recount to see if Recount had actually won?

[ edited by NYPinTA on 2008-09-22 02:39 ]

NYPinTA | September 22, 02:38 CET

Danny Strong just got a shout out for I don't even know what (I assume it's for Recount, but I literally just turned on the TV and heard the words "Danny Strong", lol. It was surreal.)

Edit: apparently 4 people who type much faster already said that before I did =x

[ edited by dispatch on 2008-09-22 02:40 ]

dispatch | September 22, 02:38 CET

Wonder if he at least got to wear some crazy socks, al la Booth. Just cuz.

He did. Showed em off on the red carpet. Probably the highlight of the night.

The Xan Man | September 22, 02:40 CET

TV Squad just live blogged that Heidi Klum called David's show 'The Bones'. No wonder he looks unimpressed...

missb | September 22, 02:40 CET

It is so cool that Danny Strong was just mentioned at the Emmy's. He's actually nominated for writing Recount - I really hope he wins!!! It's like having someone you grew up with win an Emmy.....even though I don't even know him.

missmuffet | September 22, 02:41 CET

Danny wrote "Recount."

MySerenity | September 22, 02:41 CET

Recount just won for best television movie.

Anne 5_by_5 | September 22, 02:43 CET

TV Squad just live blogged that Heidi Klum called David's show 'The Bones'. No wonder he looks unimpressed...

But it's Heidi Klum, that's just how she talks. Hard to be mad at her for doing what she does.

The Xan Man | September 22, 02:44 CET

Only Laurence Fishburne could pull off wearing a jacket like that!

NYPinTA | September 22, 02:44 CET

I must admit I shed a tear when William Peterson said that he's handing the keys to the lab to Lawrence Fishbourne.

badwolf | September 22, 02:44 CET

Recount won again!

badwolf | September 22, 02:46 CET

Recount just got another! No, I didn't even see what the category was!

I am a great reporter.

dispatch | September 22, 02:47 CET

But Danny didn't get HIS win. >_>

Do you want to call this more Buffy Emmy snubbing?

[ edited by The Xan Man on 2008-09-22 02:49 ]

The Xan Man | September 22, 02:48 CET

And Danny didn't =/ Boo!

dispatch | September 22, 02:48 CET

Grrr! Poor Danny, at least he got substantial shout-outs :/

MySerenity | September 22, 02:49 CET

Damn. I was rooting for both Danny and Ricky Gervais/Stephen Merchant.

Oh well.

ETA: Oh wow, and way to cut to commercial mid-speech... sigh.

[ edited by Jobo on 2008-09-22 02:49 ]

Jobo | September 22, 02:49 CET

It's still awesome that he was nominated even though he didn't win.

missmuffet | September 22, 02:49 CET

It's great that 'Recount' got some recognition. It really is one of the best made-for-television movies I've seen in a long, long time.

Anonymous1: 500, actually :). But you wrote that NPH was on picture #33. I looked at the first 50 and after not seeing the picture (and because the pictures were loading quite slowly), I gave up, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere :). I think the pictures may be randomised in the gallery or something like that.

ETA: cabri... but why is it easier to tape and show at a later time than showing it live? Don't all major broadcasters and large shows know how to do a simple live-feed? (And no, I don't expect you to have any answer to that, that makes sense, by the way ;)).

[ edited by GVH on 2008-09-22 02:52 ]

GVH | September 22, 02:50 CET

This is what happens when Outstanding Movie is on its own, but the writing gets lumped into Movie, Mini-Series, Dramatic Special all against one another.

The One True b!X | September 22, 02:50 CET

I lol'ed when they cut to commercial during his speech.

badwolf | September 22, 02:50 CET

Frick. :-(

OzLady | September 22, 02:51 CET

badwolf, truly.

Him: "...they used words--"

Emmys: "But you don't get to."

The One True b!X | September 22, 02:52 CET

I felt a little bad for him. Poor guy :[

badwolf | September 22, 02:53 CET

GVH I have an UNsecret television crush on Mary-Louise Parker and you should watch Weeds! The whole show is just a big crush on Mary-Louise Parker. And some plot and stuff.

I can't be bothered to watch the emmys but I'll keep checking in here just to see what you all are making of them. You people are so much more entertaining.

catherine | September 22, 02:54 CET

So are the winning clips the ones that are having sets being made after them?

Rhodey | September 22, 02:55 CET

bix, heh.

NYPinTA | September 22, 02:56 CET

LMAO I love Kathy Griffin. "GET UUUUUUUP!"

badwolf | September 22, 02:56 CET

Recount's Awards-
Outstanding Direction, Miniseries/Movie, or Dramatic Special: Jay Roach (Recount)

Outstanding Made For TV Movie: Recount.

ETA- Outstanding Writing, Miniseries/Movie, or Dramatic Special: Kirk Ellus (who wrote 'John Adams', but is being credited on TV Squad as having wrote 'Recount'. Mucho confusion!)

[ edited by missb on 2008-09-22 03:17 ]

missb | September 22, 02:57 CET

Wait, whose speech is being cut by commercials? (this thread is growing fast and is fairly confusing without actually watching the emmys ;)).

And yeah, catherine, I saw the first three episodes of Weeds, loved them to bits (because, well, MLP and lots of her!) and then kinda lost track of the rest, which, shame on me. I've been meaning to buy the DVD's for ages :).

Thanks for that recap, missb!

And with that, I'm heading off to sleep. It's 4 in the morning here, I guess it's about time ;).

GVH | September 22, 02:59 CET

So are the winning clips the ones that are having sets being made after them?

I don't think so. The West Wing had it's set but wasn't one of the clips.

The Xan Man | September 22, 03:01 CET

Ahh ok, thanks.

Rhodey | September 22, 03:01 CET

They showed a clip of West Wing, but it wasn't my choice of most memorable of all of that show! (I never saw this list that people got to vote from.)

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:02 CET

missb, it's likely that if writing had been split into Writing for Movie and Writing for Mini-Series, Recount would have won, but because it was a combined category, it's unsurprising that it did not.

[ edited by theonetruebix on 2008-09-22 03:03 ]

The One True b!X | September 22, 03:02 CET

Kirk Ellus (from John Adams) was cut off while saying "They use words..."
Perhaps they thought he was going to go all WGA political-like?

Oh and wow, Amazing Race got best Reality Series. Again.

[ edited by missb on 2008-09-22 03:17 ]

missb | September 22, 03:03 CET

I doubt he was cut off for content reasons. I think they just got trigger happy with the cutoff button. Gotta get those commercials in.

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:04 CET

GVH,

500? That is what is happening. Did a refresh and got the 500 instead of 377. They are loading pictures and reordering them. I going thru slowly through them and getting repeats.

I wonder if they are going to stop at 500. or keep going.

Now there is a great pic of Neil at #4.

Neil picture somewhere maybe #4 in the group of 500 pictures.

[ edited by Anonymous1 on 2008-09-22 03:07 ]

Anonymous1 | September 22, 03:05 CET

Wonder if he at least got to wear some crazy socks, al la Booth. Just cuz.

Yes he did. They did the 'stilleto cam' on Jaime's shoes and David said he thought they should do 'men's socks cam' and showed his blue striped socks.

I agree with others that this was one of the worst Emmy shows ever ... and that's saying something.

resa | September 22, 03:06 CET

Wow, they cut that one guy off in mid-speech, and they just played Tom Hanks off with the band, even though he was talking pretty fast, not wasting time, and being Tom Hanks. If Forrest Gump is not immune to the cutoff, who is?

dispatch | September 22, 03:07 CET

Yay! NPH!

The Xan Man | September 22, 03:08 CET

Aww Neil. I want to take him and Kristen and keep them in my pockets.

badwolf | September 22, 03:09 CET

All these "bit cuts" make me wonder if Buffy's obvious winning clip will be one of them.

hitnrun017 | September 22, 03:09 CET

Nice dig at stupid Howie Mandel, NPH. ;D

cabri | September 22, 03:10 CET

I doubt they would cut that out, they are just cutting out the meaningless banter that goes on before each award.

badwolf | September 22, 03:10 CET

One for In Treatment, too- Diane Wiest (though it should have been Mia Wasikowska, broken record that I am).

Dana5140 | September 22, 03:10 CET

"Bitter, party of two!"

Well, really, is there anyone who would actually rather listen to Howie Mendel than NPH? Even on mute, he annoys me.

Knuckleball | September 22, 03:10 CET

All these "bit cuts" make me wonder if Buffy's obvious winning clip will be one of them.

Are we still operating under the misconception that the thing Buffy is in the running for is somehow an actual Emmy thing, rather than just an ABC thing?

The One True b!X | September 22, 03:10 CET

No, but the other clips were shown. I think people just want to see it on the Emmys- even if it isn't actually winning one. Bitter, party of one fandom. ;D

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:12 CET

Are we still operating under the misconception that the thing Buffy is in the running for is somehow an actual Emmy thing, rather than just an ABC thing?

I was thinking Buffy would be one of the clips shown after the commercial breaks.

hitnrun017 | September 22, 03:13 CET

NPH rocks my world.

missmuffet | September 22, 03:13 CET

YAY HOUSE!!

badwolf | September 22, 03:14 CET

Crap.

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:16 CET

Here are some Emmy pics of David and Jaime. And near the bottom of the page are some pics of David, Joss and Eliza from an earlier party.

And some pics of NPH are
here . Courtesy of Wireimage.

[ edited by resa on 2008-09-22 03:21 ]

resa | September 22, 03:18 CET

As much as I wish Michael Angeli had won for BSG - Mad Men is a fantastic show and has excellent writing. Much deserved win.

missmuffet | September 22, 03:18 CET

I love Mad Men but this was the last chance for The Wire to get some Emmy love. Shame. BSG still has a chance though.

The Xan Man | September 22, 03:18 CET

Yeah, that was the official and final "snubbed" designation for The Wire. Criminal.

The One True b!X | September 22, 03:19 CET

That's it.I have to watch Mad Men

okelay | September 22, 03:19 CET

I'm enjoying the nostalgia. I wonder how many people here watched The Smothers Brothers or Laugh In.

I could gladly forgo the game show hosts that are hosting.

redeem147 | September 22, 03:20 CET

Wow, maybe we'll get an answer on the clip before the show starts on the west coast. Sure would like to go to bed on time. Thanks for all the updates; getting so tired I'm not sure I'll make it through anyway.

Tonya J | September 22, 03:23 CET

Count me as one of the folks here old enough to remember and love The Smothers Brothers and Laugh In.

floofypooh | September 22, 03:23 CET

I wonder how many people here watched The Smothers Brothers or Laugh In.

I watched both of those shows and loved them. (I'm old ;) ) They were great shows. It was great to see Tommy and Dick Smothers again ... and Tommy hasn't changed a bit. Still saying whatever he wants to say. :)

resa | September 22, 03:24 CET

*hands over ears*

la la la la la la.

I'm not listening, I'm not listening, but just had to say how completely asinine it is that the Emmys were taking place in my home town, but we weren't given them live - no, we have to watch them canned at 8PM PST. Rid-effing-dickulous.

QuoterGal | September 22, 03:26 CET

DAMN YOU ALEC BALDWIN. Steve Carell or Lee Pace should've really won :[

badwolf | September 22, 03:27 CET

Well, 2.5 hours in, and they've gotten 1 right.

JadeHand | September 22, 03:27 CET

Blame ABC for their horrible airing schedule. It's their fault.

The Xan Man | September 22, 03:29 CET

Add another- Glenn Close was entirely deserving of her win for 'Damages'.

missb | September 22, 03:30 CET

I don't get why these award shows don't just add another hour. Could get boring, but they ALWAYS go over.

hitnrun017 | September 22, 03:31 CET

Alec totally deserved it. Lee Pace will have more chances,I hope. I liked Alec's speech. it was cute,how he thanked Tina Fey

okelay | September 22, 03:31 CET

I just saw Christina Hendricks on the red carpet, looking VERY glamorous! I had heard that Nathan Fillion was attending as Dana Delany's date, but he didn't walk up with her to the mike when she was showing off her vintage gown. Here in California they are delaying the show... which is annoying (they show the Oscars live).

embers | September 22, 03:32 CET

They forgot Don S. Davis in the memorial. Further proof that the Emmys shun anything sci-fi.

The Xan Man | September 22, 03:36 CET

Just spied Nathan Fillion during Alec Baldwin's speech. Since I missed the red carpet thing I was beginning to think everyone was playing and he wasn't really there. ;)

Edit: That's true! They did forget Don S. Davis!

[ edited by NYPinTA on 2008-09-22 03:38 ]

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:37 CET

The Xan Man, I know! I was so mad :[

badwolf | September 22, 03:37 CET

I don't think they're gonna show the winning clips. :(

Rhodey | September 22, 03:38 CET

Crud, they are still re-ordering the pictures. I'm giving up. Maybe it will stablize tomorrow.

Anonymous1 | September 22, 03:38 CET

BTW, how could the be running so far behind they are cutting bits when no one except the reality bit went beyond their script? Does no one time these things?

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:39 CET

they forgot Don S.Davis? I wasn't paying that much attention.what bastards!

okelay | September 22, 03:39 CET

Mainly because a lot of people's speeches are really long.

badwolf | September 22, 03:39 CET

All the speeches I've heard they start the music within 30 seconds and no one has gone much farther than that. They had to have allowed for speech time when they planned this out.

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:40 CET

Ok, they're up to 2

JadeHand | September 22, 03:41 CET

Awesome,Tina won!

okelay | September 22, 03:42 CET

Mary Louise should've won :[

badwolf | September 22, 03:42 CET

I agree badwolf - Mary Louise Parker is awesome

missmuffet | September 22, 03:43 CET

I'm really bitter that Hugh Laurie or Michael C Hall didn't win. The Emmy's are really disapointing me this year.

badwolf | September 22, 03:44 CET

Not only have I watched most of the show (missed 15 minutes for a shower), but I'm recording the show. I will be VERY upset if they do not show all of the clips (including, of course, Buffy's).

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ricetxpeaches | September 22, 03:45 CET

They sped up the Lead Actor and Actress awards for THIS idiotic Host award?

hitnrun017 | September 22, 03:45 CET

They're wasting all the damn time on the reality host thing! *grumpy*

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:45 CET

I know! this has got to be the worst category ever! who cares? And Hall should've won!

okelay | September 22, 03:46 CET

I'm starting to believe that they will not being showing Buffy, nor that award. Darn you Emmy's :[

badwolf | September 22, 03:46 CET

Ok, so let's recap. They showed the clip from Seinfeld and M.A.S.H. (I assume it's the same M.A.S.H. clip because I never saw the one that we could vote for). They did a Laugh-In sketch. What other clips am I missing?

ricetxpeaches | September 22, 03:48 CET

I don't watch Breaking Bad, but I did see a bit when my husband was watching Cranston's a good actor, and I found that a bit of an upset, but in a good way. Though I love Michael C. Hall bestest of all.

redeem147 | September 22, 03:49 CET

ER, and I think The X-Files. They have yet to do those two.

badwolf | September 22, 03:49 CET

Holy cow... they came back from commercial, and they're still doing the reality TV host thing as I type this.

dispatch | September 22, 03:50 CET

They showed something from West Wing. Was that on the list?

NYPinTA | September 22, 03:50 CET

I haven't watched Breaking Bad yet but Bryan Cranston is just an amazing actor and his performance in this show is supposed to be outstanding. Who else remembers him on Malcolm in the Middle. He was snubbed then so it's good to see him getting recognition now. It's hard to be upset when the competition is so tight in that category. Hamm, Laurie, and Hall all could have won and it would have been just fine. Please don't complain.

Complain about wasting time over this host thing though. I'm green lighting that.

The Xan Man | September 22, 03:50 CET

The West Wing, The Simpsons and Desperate Housewives weren't on the list, yet they showed clips.

hitnrun017 | September 22, 03:51 CET

I was just about to type that, hitnrun017. The Mary Tyler Moore clip was on the list, though.

ricetxpeaches | September 22, 03:52 CET

Just showed a clip from The Mary Tyler Moore show.

ETA: Ok. I'm totally confused now. Anyone have a link to the list?

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NYPinTA | September 22, 03:52 CET

I think they are just showing random clips of previous Emmy winners.

badwolf | September 22, 03:52 CET

They just showed a MTM clip, but that was not amongst the actual finalist clips for the memorable moments thing, so I don't think these clips are relevant.

The Mary Tyler Moore clip was on the list, though.

Not by the time it got down to 10 choices, it wasn't.

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The One True b!X | September 22, 03:52 CET

So with seven minutes and two more awards for Outstanding Series, I think it's safe to say that Buffy was snubbed again.

hitnrun017 | September 22, 03:53 CET

It wasn't the same clip, theonetruebix? I know there was a clip from the Mary Tyler Moore Show. I never saw the clip because I didn't plan on voting for the show. Here's the link
http://abc.go.com/primetime/emmys/index?pn=aboutthemoments#t=0

ricetxpeaches | September 22, 03:55 CET

None of the clips have been of the moments selected for the top ten.

Brett | September 22, 03:56 CET

Well, we got snubbed :[

badwolf | September 22, 03:56 CET

I have no idea if it was the same clip. But by the time the choices got down to 10, MTM was not on the list anymore.

The One True b!X | September 22, 03:56 CET

Yay... Mad Men won!

floofypooh | September 22, 03:56 CET

I wanted Dexter or House to win :[

badwolf | September 22, 03:57 CET

I wanted Dexter to win.

okelay | September 22, 03:58 CET

Goddamnit. I was looking so forward to Buffy being shown.

Rhodey | September 22, 03:58 CET

Waste of 3 hours.

Sanela | September 22, 03:58 CET

I feel like I wasted 3 hours of my life away. Oh wait, I did.

badwolf | September 22, 03:58 CET

Very typical of the Emmy's, there's no Buffy.

maje | September 22, 03:58 CET

Wow. I feel as though the Academy played a joke on us for complaining about Buffy snubs for all these years.

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yamsham | September 22, 03:58 CET

What an absolute mess of a presentation, including the voting/top ten moment non-event. What the...?

Brett | September 22, 03:59 CET

What the hell.

dispatch | September 22, 03:59 CET

I watch the Emmys every year and that was a bad year. Not meaning who did or did not win. Just the quality of the program, IMO.

NYPinTA | September 22, 04:00 CET

Yes, hell, like he said...

Brett | September 22, 04:00 CET

Well, those many times I voted for Buffy were pointless. I remember near the beginning of the show they were about to show a clip about "strong women" and I got extremely excited. What was the clip? Desperate Housewives. *rolls eyes*

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hitnrun017 | September 22, 04:00 CET

Wow... I could've actually done something productive over the past three hours. Dear lord, that was horrific.

Knuckleball | September 22, 04:00 CET

I think I'm done with the emmys from now on if Dollhouse isn't nominated.

Rhodey | September 22, 04:00 CET

The Mary Tyler Moore clip on the website was the death of Chuckles the Clown, which really was one of the most outstanding TV comedy moments (though I voted for Carol Burnett's Gone with the Wind parody)

But that website poll didn't seem to have anything to do with tonight's show.

redeem147 | September 22, 04:01 CET

What a waste of time.

okelay | September 22, 04:01 CET

I think I'm done with the emmys from now on if Dollhouse isn't nominated.

So you've seen Dollhouse?

The One True b!X | September 22, 04:01 CET

Bryan Cranston's cameo as Ted's boss on HIMYM was an absolute riot. I'm glad he won.

But, yeh, these awards, in general, are cheesing me off.

missb | September 22, 04:02 CET

I'm glad that I completely forgot the Emmys were on tonight.

Bobbi | September 22, 04:02 CET

Gah Boston Legal should've won best drama.

Lockescythe | September 22, 04:02 CET

Oh, well. Mad Men won, so I'm happy about that. The hosts were terrible. I realize now why I usually don't watch the Emmys so I guess the Buffy carrot worked on me.

redeem147 | September 22, 04:02 CET

Thank you, Emmys, for finding a way to snub Buffy years after it's ended. I guess the first 7 years weren't enough.

jfhlbuffy | September 22, 04:02 CET

I think that the only funny thing was the Ricky Gervais/Steve Carrell bit.

badwolf | September 22, 04:02 CET

Well, I had fun. Didn't watch the show. I just kept refreshing this thread.

Anonymous1 | September 22, 04:02 CET

Happy 30 Rock won comedy though.

Lockescythe | September 22, 04:02 CET

Yes and it was lovely!! :P

Rhodey | September 22, 04:02 CET

badwolf,are you on ONTD? cause I saw the exact same commentary there you just made here

okelay | September 22, 04:03 CET

Reading all this was better than watching the show. (don't have that tvicular component).

RhaegarTargaryen | September 22, 04:03 CET

Uhmm...this Emmys really sucked more than usual. And I didn't think that was even possible.

I'm confused about what I voted for on the Emmys site.

And why if they were short on time they kept that long presentation with the Reality/Game Shows.

GrrrlRomeo | September 22, 04:03 CET

Goodnight Gracie.

redeem147 | September 22, 04:04 CET

The only clip they showed that was one of the choices was the Seinfeld one. And they probably couldn't have picked a worse show to show.

That voting thing was a sham. Quick, let's send in tons of something crazy to ABC. Perhaps a bunch of boxes made up to look like gifts and inside it says "Where's Buffy?"

Or maybe "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: 1997-2003, It got snubbed. A lot."

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The Xan Man | September 22, 04:04 CET

okelay, haha yes I am.

badwolf | September 22, 04:04 CET

Well, we got to see Christina Hendricks on stage, and Danny Strong got to see his dream acclaimed and his name dropped by winners (even if he didn't win himself, boo).

C. A. Bridges | September 22, 04:04 CET

What a gyp.

alexreager | September 22, 04:05 CET

I've never watched the Emmys. Was going to this year, but having read this thread, think I'll skip it.

jcs | September 22, 04:05 CET

Sorry you all took the hit for us west coasters. What utter bastards to run a contest and then not see it through. They're getting an email from me.

Tonya J | September 22, 04:07 CET

wow, what a disappointment... but congrats to those who won

wilky | September 22, 04:08 CET

Well I'm currently prone in bed suffering from a broken rib and pulled intercostals (damn dragonboat racing), so at least this thread stopped me from popping painkillers and passing out!

Anyhoo, the Emmys don't get shown here for another 7 hours AND they're up against 'Bones', so I'm glad I can skip them!

missb | September 22, 04:08 CET

They have a message board at ABC.go.com Just sayin'.

NYPinTA | September 22, 04:08 CET

Heh. I'm feeling kinda lucky now that we don't get a live feed here on the west coast. I did DVR it from my satellite, anything worth watching? How far in?

Xane | September 22, 04:10 CET

Ok. Just to be sure that I didn't miss anything, I'm rewinding the Emmy broadcast and looking for clips from any of the shows in the Drama category. So far, I don't recall seeing any...although someone mentioned a clip from ER.

ricetxpeaches | September 22, 04:11 CET

Yeah this kind of sucked, Per the website they were supposed to show each winner before announcing which show won for best comedy and drama... So apparently Mary Tyler Moore Show won for best comedy- because they showed the clip and then had her and Betty White give the award. Is it possible Buffy won, but they couldn't get anyone from the show to present so they went with Tom Seleck? lol.... i know they were running short on time but still. Was Tom on any of the Drama nominee's? I don't remember seeing Magnum P.I on there. was that drama? lol oh well... Got to see David, and I'm so glad that Recount got recognized!! Way to go Danny!! -- and I like Mad Men but I wish Dexter would have won. Michael wasn't even nominated this year :( bummer... The new season starts next week :) very excited!! lol k- off to bed now.

drvmyslfcrzy | September 22, 04:13 CET

[ edited by ninjapigeon on 2008-09-22 04:14 ]

ninjapigeon | September 22, 04:13 CET

I'm betting the whole ABC Buffy poll thing got axed early and often. While I agree that the reality TV host category isn't deserving of the primetime show, that and the Ricky Gervais bits were the funniest of the night.

cabri | September 22, 04:13 CET

Maybe the Emmys just didn't like the results and decided not to show the winners and instead just showed whatever they thought was good. (And really, that clip they showed from MTM was no where near as funny as Chuckles.)

GrrrlRomeo | September 22, 04:14 CET

I'm pissed about this, but I'm more pissed Lost walked home empty handed. I guess Emerson still has another two shots to win.

Then again is the same show that all but ignores BSG and other awesome shows really worth our attention?

At least Buffy won an Eisner. :P

userpjx | September 22, 04:17 CET

So apparently Mary Tyler Moore Show won...

No, because as already stated, it didn't even make it into the final ten.

The One True b!X | September 22, 04:17 CET

I E-MAILED ABC.

I sat through what was the worst Emmy telecast I've ever seen (And that's saying something...) to learn the results of a poll taken here.

And that poll which brought enormous numbers of viewers to your site amounted to nothing.

Is this a complete manipulation of and lack of respect for your viewers or is there a valid explanation??

Thank you.
Brett

Brett | September 22, 04:18 CET

Thanks, Brett!

ricetxpeaches | September 22, 04:18 CET

I bet Buffy won and the producers who don't "get" it thought it would be an embarassment, so they scrapped the idea. Just insane speculation.... or maybe not THAT insane.

hitnrun017 | September 22, 04:19 CET

I really think Buffy won and they scrapped the idea because they didn't have enough time to do the award in the show.

badwolf | September 22, 04:20 CET

HERE'S ABC'S FAST RESPONSE:

As you can imagine, we receive thousands of messages a day from our viewers and while we appreciate you taking the time to provide feedback regarding our programming, we are not able to respond to each one directly.

We encourage you to continue to communicate with us!

Brett | September 22, 04:20 CET

I don't think the Academy can really ignore the impact that Reality T.V. has had in television. And really if anyone of the shows is deserving an award it is probably the hosts. Most of the time the judges are just as obnoxious as the contestants.

drvmyslfcrzy | September 22, 04:20 CET

Maybe the hosts are deserving of an award, but not of all the time that was devoted to talking about it. Especially if the show is nixing bits that have been announced for weeks that a lot of people tuned in for.

NYPinTA | September 22, 04:22 CET

I agree with hitnrun017. Or, I should write, it's my best guess. With a rabid and organized (and youthful) fan base, Buffy surely garnered a huge number of votes. And I wouldn't be surprised if the powers that be (so not worthy of a Buffyverse sounding name) were turned off by it's perhaps having won.

[ edited by Brett on 2008-09-22 04:23 ]

Brett | September 22, 04:23 CET

Oy.

The One True b!X | September 22, 04:24 CET

Hee hee, the response you got is hilarious, Brett!

"We can't respond, but... keep on communicating!"

catherine | September 22, 04:25 CET

I seriously doubt they saw that Buffy won and decided to nix the idea of announcing who won just because of that. That would be moronic. More moronic than I'm willing to place on any network. No, I think they just wasted too much time with the reality host stuff.

Edit: typo

[ edited by NYPinTA on 2008-09-22 04:25 ]

NYPinTA | September 22, 04:25 CET

"Michael wasn't even nominated this year :("

Um, yes he was. For Best Actor in a Dramatic Series.

C. A. Bridges | September 22, 04:25 CET

wow.. i think maybe some of us are taking it way to personal.. I'm sure they just had to cut it due to time. I don't think it was some kind of grudge-- if that was the case they wouldn't have included the episode in the contest. lots of stuff got cut, people got cut off. It's Live t.v. I'm sure it's hard to pick and choose who you're going to cut off and who you aren't. Glad I'm not the guy pushing the button. But hey There is supposed to be more stuff on Good Morning America tomorrow- maybe it'll be on there.

drvmyslfcrzy | September 22, 04:27 CET

Was it ever stated that the winning clip would actually be shown ON the Emmy show?

I think maybe expectations were a bit high on this one.

[ edited by missmuffet on 2008-09-22 04:28 ]

missmuffet | September 22, 04:27 CET

Yep. On the website it says, "the winning clips will be revealed during the ceremony..." and more stuff.

NYPinTA | September 22, 04:29 CET

missmuffet-- yes, it was.

It said "The winning clips will be revealed during the ceremony. Watch the Emmy's at (blah blah blah) to see the top five drama and top five comedy clips"

jfhlbuffy | September 22, 04:29 CET

The Friday edition of whatever entertainment show Seacrest is on (The Insider, Inside Edition, Daily 10, etc.???) stated that the Emmy's would feature sets from some of TV's most popular shows. I didn't know how that would fit in with the online voting contest, but I see that it replaced the contest. Several shows whose sets were featured (e.g. Dragnet, The West Wing, The Simpsons) were not on the list of TV's Most Memorable Moments.

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