No Buffy movie says Tony Head - BtVS

Okay, hands up anyone here who actually needed confirmation that there wasn't going to be a Buffy movie happening anytime soon?

All of you who put your hands up, the fairy boat to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow leaves in half an hour. Run or you'll miss it. ;)

Always nice to hear from Tony though. I've never been in any doubt that should anything ever happen with regards to another Buffy project, he'd be there. Just a shame that Ripper isn't going to be it. Dumb red tape and dumber legal type people that use the red tape to make potential awesome television all sticky and red.

Highlander | December 10, 12:11 CET

I always wondered how Ripper would work anyway. Would it be a kinda one-man Torchwood or something? How would it relate to the ongoing comic series? Guess we'll probably never know...

archon | December 10, 12:15 CET

I've always been qurious about Ripper for that reason. How the **** would it turn out!?

But it would be fun to have a Buffy/Torchwood crossover. After all Cardif has its own Hellmouth ; )

Satai (with Punsch) | December 10, 12:31 CET

There're a lot of ways 'Ripper' could work, from a sort of ghost hunter thing to more a paranormal private eye sort of idea. I always pictured it as a lot like 'Strange' but set in the Buffyverse (in fact, I often wondered if 'Strange' coming along and not doing exactly brilliantly might've scuppered 'Ripper' back when the iron was a bit hotter).

Joss' word on it didn't seem 100% final to me BTW, just not in the near (or even forseeable) future. So final-ish but not final-final.

All of you who put your hands up, the fairy boat to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow leaves in half an hour. Run or you'll miss it. ;)

For God's sake man, which quay does it leave from ?!?

Saje | December 10, 12:35 CET

Joss' word on it didn't seem 100% final to me BTW, just not in the near (or even forseeable) future.

Which, let's face it, has been Joss' word on it pretty much since 2001 (Comic-Con '07 excepted).

jlp | December 10, 12:53 CET

It was always fairly obvious to the non dreamers that neither of these things would come to pass.

Pumps | December 10, 13:22 CET

Wishful people really deserve to burn in hell, and fairies for running such a tight schedule.

Decoupling Tony from Giles will take some time for me if that thing won’t be Ripper, but that is a silly concern in the great scheme of things.

hence | December 10, 13:24 CET

Gossi wil be so disappointed. It was a good rumor while it lasted, man ;).

zeitgeist | December 10, 13:39 CET

"Wishful people really deserve to burn in hell..."

Probably wouldn't go as far as that. Maybe just a slightly nasty chinese burn for the really wishful types. ;)

Highlander | December 10, 13:49 CET

Oh no! Doom befalls us all! I was certain it was true this time and therefore it is time to cry myself to sleep at night for at least 2.35 weeks.

Or I mean: heh, yeah, good work Gossi ;). I even ran into the rumor on Dutch entertainment sites this week.

GVH | December 10, 14:24 CET

Good call Saje, I liked Strange. But wished Richard Coyle hadn't left Coupling to do it.

zz9 | December 10, 15:05 CET

Ahh, Coupling... "You're shaking the caravan, Jeffrey!".

zeitgeist | December 10, 15:21 CET

You're hard on wishful people ! It almost seems like you wouldn't like to see a buffy movie.
Yes, it isn't likely that we will have a buffy movie soon, but it would be nice anyway and we should say it more often.

Léo | December 10, 15:45 CET

I think it would be really cool to do a Buffy movie in about 10 years...take a page out of the Promethea story book. SMG has a smallish role as the mystical trainer for a new slayer. We see snapshots into the trials and tribulations of a newly called slayer. Ripper could head up an all new watchers council with half the arrogance and twice the tea. They would have to throw in a few Quentin TraversESQE lines for Tony. (At least let him say, "She's a god.")

alexreager | December 10, 15:49 CET

I don't think anyone would disagree with you, Léo. We'd all like to see a Buffy movie. It's just that, knowing how these rumours began based on nothing more than random internet speculation in the first place, hearing confirmation that they weren't actually true is kinda like reading an article confirming that Firefly has been axed but there has been a movie version of the show made, called Serenity. Not actually news, y'know?

I really can't imagine that many Whedon fans would be against the idea of a Buffy movie happening. We're just having a little poke at the fact this particular rumour had absolutely no factual basis, is all. ;)

Highlander | December 10, 16:01 CET

Wah!

gossi | December 10, 16:23 CET

Yes, gossi, you read that right: "absolutely no factual basis", is what Highlander wrote. Are you just going to let that pass?

*steps back*

I totally should've applied for the ELE ;)

GVH | December 10, 16:35 CET

Joss: The circle is now complete. When I left Fox, I was but the tired, oppressed writer. Now I am the master!

Fox: Dude, we put Dollhouse on Fridays. Fridays! Get over yourself. Oh, and no matter how your fans want it, no matter how many bushels of money you shove in our faces, we're not reviving Buffy. Period.

Fans: If you strike the Buffy movie rumors down, they will become more powerful than either of you can possibly imagine.

Joss: (to Fox) See? The fans won't let me leave her! Why won't they let me leeeeaavve?!?

quantumac | December 10, 16:47 CET

I should point out that my "no factual basis" comment was in no way supposed to hurt gossi's feelings. It was not my intent to play any part in causing a grown man to "Wah!"...

;)

Highlander | December 10, 16:49 CET

I would think he would be happy about it because the truth is that there was no factual basis and gossi is a factual guy. Which is to say that he does, in fact, exist. Or something.

zeitgeist | December 10, 16:54 CET

Clearly this calls for a Ripper miniseries in comic form.

Sunfire | December 10, 17:08 CET

No Ripper = Balls!

Ahem.

Tonya J | December 10, 17:13 CET

Me personally ? I'd rather never see 'ripper' and 'balls' in the same sentence again. Ever ever ever *fingers in ears, la la la, goes to happy place where legs are permanently crossed*.

Which is to say that he does, in fact, exist. Or something.

He 'Wah!'s therefore he is.

Saje | December 10, 17:53 CET

Crybaby ergo sum?

zeitgeist | December 10, 18:29 CET

Oh Saje, you menfolk are so thenthative... But I'm sorry nonetheless.

Tonya J | December 10, 18:37 CET

No Ripper = Balls or Ripper = No Balls?

“Maybe just a slightly nasty chinese burn for the really wishful types”

Yeah O.K. a little bit harsh. But I at least think a spanking is in order. ;)

” You're hard on wishful people ! It almost seems like you wouldn't like to see a buffy movie”

Au contraire, mon ami. It just helps to be a little silly about it when you want something and know you’re not going to get it.

[ edited by hence on 2008-12-10 19:13 ]

hence | December 10, 18:54 CET

I don't care what ANYONE says, I will not believe the BUFFY movie is dead until I'm sitting in a theater having not bought a ticket for it and not watching it because it doesn't exist.

Brian Lynch | December 10, 19:08 CET

OMG, it's that thing that's rare as a Unicorn! The ultimate optimist!! :: Runs away screaming in total horror ::

Tonya J | December 10, 19:20 CET

giggles

Yes, Tony loves to swear. In fact, he's gotten in trouble a few times at conventions because of his "potty mouth" - he told us @MotorCityBuffy that he actually had a lady get up, take her child by the hand, and leave in the middle of one of his Q&A sessions because of his language.

Personally, I'm not a fan of rough language. The occasional "damn" or "hell" isn't bad. But dropping the F-bomb just because you can...really? What's the need?

I heard a character on a cop show the other night say "jackhole." Huh?

Now, as far as the movie...Tony only said it's not happening now, not that it's not happening ever. It will happen; Joss just has to find the time to read the script.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to try to catch that goat...

ShadowQuest | December 10, 19:32 CET

I blame Tony's language on Manchild ... okay, maybe not.

Tonya J | December 10, 19:34 CET

I believe in foul swearing and blaspheming whenever and however I can, in whatever circumstances whatsoever, in at least three or four languages, and especially when there are little, tiny, fragile, impressionable children around.

Sorry, but that's just the way I feel. YMMV.

QuoterGal | December 10, 19:42 CET

I don't care what ANYONE says, I will not believe the BUFFY movie is dead until I'm sitting in a theater having not bought a ticket for it and not watching it because it doesn't exist.

Dude, you did that last week - I saw you!

zeitgeist | December 10, 19:44 CET

Sorry, but that's just the way I feel.

!@#$ you, you !@#$ing !@#$. How the !@#$ can you possibly !@#$ing feel that way? Un!@#$ingbelievable.

b!X | December 10, 19:48 CET

I £$@#!?*!!£ because I care.

QuoterGal | December 10, 19:56 CET

My 'Wah!' was for the chain of events I managed to somehow start. From posting an article saying 'They should make a Buffy movie, please thanks bye', to ending up in a newspaper as a Hollywood Insider (?!?!), to the story ending up on the radio, to the story ending up all over the internet, to Tony Head ringing Joss (!) about it...

Wah!

They should make Speed 3: Rumour Control. (It would still be better than 2).

gossi | December 10, 19:57 CET

I don't really care what Tony says. He's not a writer or producer--he's not involved in the creative process. It's Joss who will determine whether or not a movie will occur, which I do see happening in the next five years.

Riker | December 10, 20:00 CET

To be clear, Riker - the rumour he's refering to is one I accidentally started online by saying there should be a Buffy movie. The press ran with it and, well, ran with it. Despite it being a Whedonesque posters opinion. I'm a guy who works for a company which sells tinned tuna.

gossi | December 10, 20:01 CET

You don't care what Tony says even when what Tony is saying is that Joss (who, as you say, will determine) told him so?

[ edited by The One True b!X on 2008-12-10 20:06 ]

b!X | December 10, 20:04 CET

Honestly, I'd love Ripper, but just ASH matched with Joss's words is good enough for me. So I hope that thing he talked about in the Write Environment works out.

sumogrip | December 10, 20:05 CET

You don't care what Tony says even when what Tony is saying is that Joss (who, as you say, will determine) told him so?

Exactly. Until I hear it from Joss that he told Tony what Tony says Joss told him he said I just won't believe that Brian Lynch hasn't already not seen an advanced screening of the Buffy movie during which he ate a bucket of popcorn that, had it been real, would've gone straight to his thighs. Anything less concrete is just hearsay.

My 'Wah!' was for the chain of events I managed to somehow start...

Whatever dude, you still exist and it's no good trying to wriggle out of it.

Saje | December 10, 20:15 CET

to ending up in a newspaper as a Hollywood Insider (?!?!)

To be fair, you gave your name as Hollywood J. Insider and they just shortened it. Plus, as Saje pointed out that I pointed out, you do exist.

zeitgeist | December 10, 20:53 CET

gossi: "Wah!"
Highlander, Saje, gossi: "Wah! Wah! Wah! Wah!"

Hey, y'know, if this was 1957, we might have a #1 hit!

Re language: !@#$ it, I just want my !@#$ing movie...
(Yes, I talk that way in real life. Which is remarkable, considering how difficult it is to pronounce "!@#$".)

Rowan Hawthorn | December 10, 21:01 CET

It sounds just like 'fuck' if that's any help.

Saje | December 10, 21:05 CET

"I believe in foul swearing and blaspheming whenever and however I can, in whatever circumstances whatsoever, in at least three or four languages, and especially when there are little, tiny, fragile, impressionable children around."

Love the way you think. And, apparently, talk... ;)

Got to admit, I'm not exactly someone who cares about bad language either. I don't go out of my way to swear at every possible opportunity but I probably do swear a lot more than most and I certainly don't care about hearing other people swearing. Just doesn't phase me at all. I'm like a walking Die Hard movie, only with less explosions. Usually.

"You don't care what Tony says even when what Tony is saying is that Joss (who, as you say, will determine) told him so?"

Was just thinking the exact same thing. Not hard to see how these rumours thrive when people can ignore facts that come directly from the Big Purple, just because those facts happen to come from someone else's mouth.

I guess if it's not directly from Joss then it's not canon truth. ;)

Highlander | December 10, 21:07 CET

Saje re: gossi Whatever dude, you still exist and it's no good trying to wriggle out of it.

I have yet to see proof of his so-called exsistence.

NYPinTA | December 10, 21:30 CET

I have yet to see proof of his so-called exsistence.

Proof.

b!X | December 10, 21:34 CET

Ahh, I can see the ganging-up has already begun. Good job, guys!

Riker | December 10, 21:51 CET

Being ganged up on around here is a sign of love :). The Canadian equivalent is that most romantic of phrases, "I would prorogue Parliament for you!". Seriously, if you felt picked on, I'm sure those at fault will freely apologize (hint hint).

zeitgeist | December 10, 21:54 CET

Proof.

INVISIBLE WEIGHTS!

Also, sorry Riker - I didn't mean to get at you personally.

gossi | December 10, 21:56 CET

Proof.

Obviously as photoshopped as the moon landings. I deny your "proof". I mean, what real person holds invisible weights!? I won't belive in gossi till I see him drunk in person.

NYPinTA | December 10, 22:00 CET

Or hear him "Wah!" live.

Saje | December 10, 22:01 CET

Wasn't that photo taken one or two seconds before gossi achieved ~~canonization~~ ~~glorification~~ ~~sanctification~~ insubstantiation and floated off into the ether?

l believe I caught that moment on my cell phone. And if he is now incorporeal, to what extent or in what form can he really be said to "exist"?

Show your work, please.

QuoterGal | December 10, 22:02 CET

When I'm drunk I generally Wah, Saje and NYPinTA.

gossi | December 10, 22:03 CET

Point of order; he actually tran-substantiated.

zeitgeist | December 10, 22:06 CET

Of course there's not going to be a Buffy movie. Joss is too busy making the Serenity sequel.

Actually I've had to loosen the hold on my belief in a Serenity sequel to make room for my "They didn't cancel Pushing Daisies" denial.

theclynn | December 10, 22:08 CET

zeitgeist: "Point of order; he actually tran-substantiated."

Into what - the body and blood, or like, chocolate?

QuoterGal | December 10, 22:12 CET

Given who we're talking about, probably wine :).

zeitgeist | December 10, 22:13 CET

Tranny-substantiated?

b!X | December 10, 22:17 CET

I knew you'd come through for me with soemthing like that, faux-Beiderbecke. Cheers.

zeitgeist | December 10, 22:19 CET

I personally didn't watch a nonexistent Buffy movie just last night. And it didn't happen while I was not doing the dinner dishes either.

barboo | December 10, 22:45 CET

What a fascinating turn of non-events.

zeitgeist | December 10, 22:47 CET

Saje:

It sounds just like 'fuck' if that's any help.

Ah - see, that's what I get for learning to read phonetically. Which shouldn't matter, since this entire thread isn't happening, anyway...

Rowan Hawthorn | December 10, 22:52 CET

This is a thread? I thought it were a topic. Full of mystifying symbols.

Tonya J | December 10, 23:03 CET

This is not a post.

Saje | December 10, 23:43 CET

One thing that's probably changed due to the passage of time and non-project-happening is that the "Ripper" story probably takes place later than it would have if we had gotten it way back in whatever year it was when Joss first started saying "Ripper" and "BBC" in the same sentence (during Buffy Season 4 ? It seems like it was that early. I'm pretty sure that, aside from Angel, it's the earliest we ever heard of a potential spin-off project, not counting Dark Horse comics). Maybe it would've been a prequel or between-the-seasons thing a while back, maybe we could've seen some of Giles' Season 6 adventures during his absence from Sunnydale. If it happens any time in the next few years, I can see it being set during Season 8.

Kris | December 11, 00:43 CET

Tonya J:

This is a thread? I thought it were a topic.

It were a topic, but then it got off-topic. Now it's a thread. I can tell because so far, it's keeping me in stitches.

Rowan Hawthorn | December 11, 01:23 CET

There is no post. Only tangly tangly threads leading nowhere and everywhere.

Sunfire | December 11, 01:45 CET

But there IS cheese. (No matter which way you cut it...)

missb | December 11, 07:12 CET

Now, missb, that's just cheesy.

GVH | December 11, 08:46 CET

Are we suggesting this thread has something to do with string cheese?

Rowan Hawthorn | December 11, 13:09 CET

Well there was that incident.

b!X | December 11, 19:12 CET

I was waiting for someone else to say that. Haha...

zeitgeist | December 11, 19:15 CET

OMG. LOOK at what I miss when I actually do work! Remind me not to do THAT again. *shivers*

RE: QuoterGal's captured moment... are we sure he isn't becoming a PTB? In that case, gossi could be privy to events that may or may not happen in the somewhat near future. Or he could be harvesting evil that will promote world peace. It could go either way.

They should make Speed 3: Rumour Control. (It would still be better than 2).

Are you saying that there's a Speed 3?? And Keanu is reviving his role after the success of The Day the Earth Stood Still? Awesome! Must report!

My 'Wah!' was for the chain of events I managed to somehow start. From posting an article saying 'They should make a Buffy movie, please thanks bye', to ending up in a newspaper as a Hollywood Insider (?!?!), to the story ending up on the radio, to the story ending up all over the internet, to Tony Head ringing Joss (!) about it...

Wah!

To be clear, Riker - the rumour he's refering to is one I accidentally started online by saying there should be a Buffy movie. The press ran with it and, well, ran with it. Despite it being a Whedonesque posters opinion. I'm a guy who works for a company which sells tinned tuna.

gossi, I didn't know a man who sold tinned tuna could hold so much power. Or have such wonderful connections to Joss & Dollhouse. Are you mafia-supplying them with tuna at Kraft Services??? Is that how you have the slightly-altered inside scoop?

Being ganged up on around here is a sign of love :).

So... this is a gang bang?

And, serious question here, why is "fuck" so damaging to the ears? If long ago they decided that the word "shoe" was foul, and "fucks" were what we wore on our feet, would we feel differently about it?

Example:

WheFan 1: "Oh, I love your high-heeled fucks! Is it hard to walk though?"

WheFan 2: "Ah, no, I love them. I'm a little sore, though. Just bought them. Still need to break them in."

WheFan 1: "Where'd you get the fucks? I'd love to buy some!"

WheFan 2: "At the Payless Fuck Store."

WheFan 1: "Shoe! Really? I love that store!"

WheFan 2: "Please don't use that word. It hurts my fragile ears."

...

Have I curdled this cheesy thread yet?

korkster | December 11, 20:20 CET

Nah, but it looks to be well toasted...

Rowan Hawthorn | December 12, 03:17 CET

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