So the battle of Serenity Valley was like Gettysburg, huh? I realize where Joss got his inspiration and all, but technically, I feel a nitpick coming on. The war between the Alliance and the Independents wasn't a civil war unless the Independents were previously in a government with the central planets. It looks more like a war of annexation to me.

[ edited by shambleau on 2008-12-17 23:08 ]

shambleau | December 17, 19:55 CET

Well, the Gettysburg comment could be taken a couple of ways as I see it.

The first thing I thought of was the slaughter and high body count of Gettysburg which kind of jives with my own assumptions of how the Battle of Serenity Valley panned out. I don't think there were ever any outright statements in "Firefly" to that effect, but I do think that it was sort of implied.

Gotta love the rest of the list though. Vash and Spike are two of my favorite Space Cowboys and the minute I saw the headline I was hoping they'd make the list.

Hmmm. They're all a rather gun happy bunch aren't they?

BreathesStory | December 17, 20:39 CET

Good call on Outland but no Marshall BraveStarr? Oh come on.

Simon | December 17, 22:34 CET

No Farscape????

Vinity | December 17, 23:06 CET

After reading the novel- 'The Killer Angels', I am going to agree with BreatheStory in that the high body count & terrible fighting conditions from the Battle of Gettysburg is what gave the inspiration to the whole Battle of Serenity Valley story. It was one of the bloodiest battles in history & almost impossible to imagine still after reading with much vivid details.

If anyone likes History as much as I do, it an excellent book. I think I also read somewhere that Joss read that same book.

Spacegirl3200 | December 17, 23:43 CET

Bloodiest battles in American history, to be sure. And reading The Killer Angels was one of the things that inspired Joss to make Firefly.

kishi | December 17, 23:57 CET

Good list. And did anyone else know about that awesome trailer? 'Cause I didn't.

Break_Atmo | December 18, 00:19 CET

I'm sorry. I don't understand why you think anyone from "Farscape" should be on the list. Who would be the Cowboy? Certainly not John...he was a scientist without any Cowboy characteristics IMO.

You'll have to explain it to me Vinity. I'm not trying to be scrapy here -- just interested in the different opinion. :)

I like debatable lists. They're one of my favs. (I'm just a bit sad, aren't I?)

Now that I think about it...just what are the qualifications to deem someone a Cowboy?

Anyone?Anyone?

BreathesStory | December 18, 00:28 CET

Han Solo: YEEEEHHHHAAAAAAWWW!!!! You're all clear kid, now let's blow this thing and go home!

Han Solo in 3rd is just wrong.

alexreager | December 18, 00:46 CET

Oh my lordy, Simon, you actually remember BraveStarr? He was my hero when I was little! (And yet no one I know actually remembers that show. Siiiigh.)

LiLi | December 18, 01:20 CET

edited for silliness.

[ edited by dreamlogic on 2008-12-18 11:35 ]

dreamlogic | December 18, 06:09 CET

Nobody from Space Cowboys?

redeem147 | December 19, 01:03 CET