Have a Horrible Xmas from Whedonesque.
As promised, it's the official thread to talk about the amazing Dr. Horrible DVD. So please do natter away about the extras, easter eggs and the commentaries. And if you have time, vote for your favourite song at Whedonesque.org.
Merry Xmas to everyone.
December 24 2008
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embers | December 24, 15:15 CET
But still - merry Xmas:)
angeliclestat | December 24, 15:29 CET
Saya | December 24, 15:42 CET
But it's still only about 1:30 PM the 24th, here in my Hawaii Time Zone, so I will take the opportunity to wish "Happy Holidays" to all, before immersing myself in the yearly dysfunctional family madness.
Bonus feature great story: My birthday is Dec. 20th and my cousin found a Buffy card for me, it even plays the theme when you open it! The most surprising part to me is that it's a Hallmark card, about as mainstream a company as exists, and she found it in Hilo, not exactly an urban center with lots of pop-culture choices in the local Hallmark shop.
The Whedonverse has truly taken over the world. ;-)
Shey | December 24, 15:48 CET
And, yes, there should be a poll for best track on the musical commentary. I need to listen to it a few times to decide which is my favorite, as there are several I liked.
palehorse | December 24, 15:55 CET
Also: happy holidays to all here on the black. Hope everyone has a great (horrible) time!
GVH | December 24, 16:10 CET
Rusty626 | December 24, 16:33 CET
Congratulations to all the ELE Application contest winners!
Merry Christmas everyone!
bobw1o | December 24, 16:37 CET
Good raffs.
TeddyKGB | December 24, 16:41 CET
catalyst2 | December 24, 16:51 CET
Meatshield | December 24, 16:56 CET
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
madmolly | December 24, 16:59 CET
dreamlogic | December 24, 17:13 CET
[ edited by samatwitch on 2008-12-25 02:35 ]
samatwitch | December 24, 17:35 CET
As a super-lucky person who got the DVD last Friday, I've already nattered on at detailed length in other threads about how much I love the DVD and especially "Commentary! The Musical" So I'll not go into it again here. But if any of the Official Horribles visit this site and see this thread, let me just extend the deepest thanks and appreciation to all of you for "Horrible" *and* your second phantasmagorical musical, "Commentary!". They're both glorious. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Should you ever release "Commentary!" in purchasable audio tracks form, I shall snap it up lightning-quick. And how.
phlebotinin | December 24, 17:42 CET
Maratanos | December 24, 17:44 CET
phlebotinin | December 24, 17:47 CET
hacksaway | December 24, 18:20 CET
dreamlogic | December 24, 18:32 CET
Anonymous1 | December 24, 18:47 CET
OMG there's an Easter Egg! YUM I totally forgot about that what with it being Christmas and all. Must go search.
Sooooooooo much love to Commentary! the musical.
NuVanessa | December 24, 18:59 CET
bobw1o | December 24, 19:05 CET
It is pure awesomeness. The musical commentary defies description. "Better Than Neil" is my favourite song so far, with "Zack is Doin' Us A Little Favor" a close second.
...and I didn't even know Sarah Michelle Gellar was in Dr Horrible!?
Xeke | December 24, 19:08 CET
bobw1o | December 24, 19:21 CET
, I was able to watch the Joss sings as Hammer segment, Joss interview the Evil League of Evil, the Outakes.
Don't you think there should be deleted scenes somewhere. The Commentaries title says something like Commentaries/Special versions. Don't you think that means something. I want more Dr. Horrible stuff.
Anonymous1 | December 24, 19:21 CET
Xeke | December 24, 19:23 CET
Shey - I got the same birthday card this year! Love it and am surprised I didn't wear out the battery.
Vanessa_A - There are at least three awesome easter eggs, my kid is convinced there are more.
Merry Christmas & all everyone!
deadbessie | December 24, 19:26 CET
m'cookies actual | December 24, 19:41 CET
@ Shey: I also received the same card for my birthday from another manager at work with whom I had had the most fleeting of conversations about me being a Buffy fan...it seriously made me smile the whole day! I love that Buffy is mainstream enough to have her own cards!
Merry Christmas to all!! Time for bed, since (according to NoradSanta.org) Santa is apparently down in Brazil right now, so he should be working his way up to the States in a couple hours.
[ edited by yellowcrayon on 2008-12-25 04:49 ]
yellowcrayon | December 24, 19:44 CET
Saw this linked at imdb.com Dr. Horrible page.
Commentary: The Musical! Lyrics Current mood: hurty hands
Anonymous1 | December 24, 20:01 CET
nameless savage | December 24, 20:04 CET
I wish I could comment on Dr Horrible goodness, but Santa just didn't manage to bring mine in time. Still, I must have been a good girl this year, as among my gifts were the 'Buffy' score, the Amazon exclusive 'Beedle the Bard' book, 'Supernatural S3' and registration for SDCC in 2009- my family ROCK!
And so, for that matter, does Whedonesque, so thanks Caroline and mods for all the fun this year!
missb | December 24, 20:21 CET
So, to all a good night!
impalergeneral | December 24, 20:56 CET
JT | December 24, 21:16 CET
Just got back from 10:00 p.m. Christmas Eve service, and in between hymns, all I could think of was the chorus to 'Ninja Ropes'. Couldn't get it out of my head for the whole evening.
I can't wait to hear Commentary: The Musical! again. As others have stated, I'd love to be able to read the lyrics to some of those gems.
Totally worth buying twice.
MikeTMC (Jayne_Statue) | December 24, 21:43 CET
@theonetruebix | December 24, 21:50 CET
I am honored at the inclusion of the original comic coinage, “J-Mo” (© 2008 by The Sharper Stick) in the lyrics of “Commentary! The Musical.” I have as yet been unable to open the DVD "Easter Egg" that reveals my share of the residuals (the social, economic and moral necessity of which you rhapsodize so eloquently). My solicitors will be in touch with you in the hopes of resolving this quickly and painlessly.
Merry Christmas, and may the new year bring prosperity to all of
youus.[ edited by Pointy on 2008-12-25 13:54 ]
Pointy | December 24, 22:01 CET
I'm surprised there hasn't been any love for Felicia's awesome patter song or Neil's Turn -- but then again, my musical theater background makes me an instant sucker for anything Sondheim-inspired.
Does anyone else have a problem getting to the easter eggs? I've seen the opening pages for all three, but no matter what I press (and yes, I followed the directions), I only get back to the main title. At one point I was afraid I'd actually harmed my DVD, which seemed to be snagging, and I'd rather just listen to Commentary! again. ;)
reebchan | December 24, 22:03 CET
i asked for it like a billion times for christmas. and unfortunately couldn't get it for my birthday (the 20th like shey above)
sidetracking - i did find a way to use the original soundtrack from buffy and cut it down and put it on my phone as a ringtone (i now have my roommate compulsively humming buffy at all times, victory is mine!)
sunfish22 | December 24, 22:03 CET
RaisedByMongrels | December 24, 22:09 CET
hacksaway | December 24, 22:23 CET
"Ten Dollar Solo", of course! :)
Go Stacy!
johnsmusicbox | December 24, 23:21 CET
Otherwise I'm really enjoying this DVD. The commentaries are genius! I give them forty eight billion stars.
Linnea1928 | December 24, 23:23 CET
I posted a think to fan produced lyrics to Commentary: The Musical! above.
"I'm better than Neil
Just jumped off a moving automobile
He plays with his phone
While tires they squeal
It's my scene to steal
I'm better than Neil"
Anonymous1 | December 24, 23:52 CET
Or this morning, I guess it's now the actual day of Christmas instead of the eve.
must.continue.wrapping.
cazador | December 25, 00:44 CET
I'm seriously thinking about giving Dr. Horrible yet another spin (I have seen that thing an obscene amount of times).
What's that I feel coming on? A new holiday tradition...?
(My current tradition is watching Reservoir Dogs Christmas morning. Yes, I am a sick person. However, I haven't watched it yet this year. So I could be changing my ways.)
UnpluggedCrazy | December 25, 02:02 CET
Oh. Wait. Horrible Christmas, with a capital H? As in, "Dr."?
:::whistles:::
Well, you wonderful people can just forget I ever posted. :)
BAFfler | December 25, 02:51 CET
J.I.G. | December 25, 03:35 CET
I got my DVD on Monday and I spent the entire evening (About 6 hours) watching it over and over again. I found 3 easter eggs with some help from Google, I watched all of the commentaries and featurettes. My girlfriend is a little concerned.
Anyway, I love it and I hope all of you do too!
WitchyGrrl | December 25, 03:39 CET
Pointy | December 25, 04:53 CET
HappyHorrible Christmas to all. May all your presents be Horrible, and enjoy the Easter egg hunt.Nebula1400 | December 25, 06:28 CET
GVH | December 25, 06:57 CET
palehorse | December 25, 08:23 CET
Someone involved reads this site even more than they're admitting.
I also want a Commentary! poll, but we should probably wait a little longer until more people have DVDs.
Sunfire | December 25, 08:26 CET
love these songs!!!!!!!!!!! are they on the cd?
rivergirl | December 25, 09:08 CET
montresor | December 25, 09:32 CET
phlebotinin | December 25, 09:44 CET
Until then, I've got the iTunes soundtrack to listen to...
jill | December 25, 09:52 CET
wilder | December 25, 09:57 CET
Got mine 2 days ago, the wife and I wish the interviews with cast and creators would go on for hours.
Great to see it on the big TV, too!
Got it for an old friend, once a Buffy Denier, now a stone-cold Whedon fanatic. She is having a perfectly Horrible Christmas!
Chris inVirginia | December 25, 10:14 CET
Anyone know when drhorrible.com will have the lyrics up to the commentary? I've listened to it probably 4 times and still can't figure all of the words out.
AliciaJo | December 25, 10:39 CET
embers | December 25, 10:59 CET
Yes, mine arrived in Portland at 6PM yesterday, the day it was supposed to actually be delivered to me. So, maybe sometime in the New Year.
Anyone know when drhorrible.com will have the lyrics up to the commentary?
J, M, J, Z do.
@theonetruebix | December 25, 11:01 CET
Someone involved reads this site even more than they're admitting.
Well Whedonesque was featured in the middle of the fansite collage. As it should be. This is where the magic happens. Wait, magic's not real. How dumb do I feel?
hacksaway | December 25, 11:16 CET
Hope everyone's having a Horrible Christmas (my DVD's still in the mid-west, frickin freak northwest snow storm). Oh, Commentary! How I long for thee...
kazzmere | December 25, 11:30 CET
AliciaJo | December 25, 11:35 CET
Isn't it confirmed that it is SMG in the spoken commentary on the DVD?
Nebula1400 | December 25, 11:43 CET
Kirochka | December 25, 11:44 CET
Nebula1400 | December 25, 11:52 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 25, 11:57 CET
Simon | December 25, 11:58 CET
When it comes to the Commentary! songs, I've had Better Than Neil stuck in my head all day and I love $10 Solo and Nobody's Asian in the Movies so much too.
RachVG | December 25, 12:12 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 25, 12:40 CET
WilliamTheB | December 25, 12:43 CET
impalergeneral | December 25, 12:46 CET
rivergirl | December 25, 13:33 CET
Happy Holidays everyone, and my profound sympathy to all who can't watch it for whatever reason.
Lioness | December 25, 13:58 CET
I'm still not finished with the DVD because I'm rationing it out to myself. I've only seen three of the ELOE winners.
Welcome newbies! Horrible Christmas, and damn our eyes, every one!
dreamlogic | December 25, 14:33 CET
Mine just arrived yesterday, and finally had a chance to show my family here Dr. Horrible for the first time. Reaaally excited for Commentary! That shall be a tonight present for self! I'm positive I will come squee shortly after.
ef | December 25, 14:43 CET
The Arcane | December 25, 15:07 CET
To efehan, jill & AliciaJo!
Pointy | December 25, 15:26 CET
I got the DVD this morning,but I haven't had time to watch it yet. I can't wait to here Joss sing!
Jor | December 25, 15:29 CET
For no-El Jor!
Pointy | December 25, 15:37 CET
evolutiongirl | December 25, 16:05 CET
That said, I am in love with my DVD! I have listened to Commentary at least 3 times and can't get enough. I need to go back and activate the Easter Eggs now, I found all the countdowns, but had to go forum hunting to figure out how to open them.
Happy Holidays everyone! And I hope to be a part of many discussions to come now that I am a member here!
Svestus | December 25, 16:52 CET
Firefly Flanatic | December 25, 17:15 CET
Cannot be flamed. It's like asbestos.
[ edited by Pointy on 2008-12-26 03:14 ]
Pointy | December 25, 18:13 CET
i spent a few hours watching commentary the musical, and the other one. as well as all the special features that i could get to without going for the easter eggs. its just as good as i thought it would be and more.
i'm thinking of forcing my family to watch it tomorrow.
sunfish22 | December 25, 19:25 CET
Amaranth | December 25, 19:31 CET
doubtful guest | December 25, 20:05 CET
From "Nobody's Asian"
JW: What does your father do again?
MT: Oh, he's a nerdy funny scientist.
Anonymous1 | December 25, 20:18 CET
After viewing Muppet Christmas Carol, my mom (a fan of Dr Horrible's but not of Joss [she has this thing about Buffy being evil]) and I made my entire family sit through Dr. Horrible and then Commentary! and then the featurettes. And I've been singing Ninja Ropes, $10 solo, and the background chorus of Zack's rap under my breath all day while christmas-ing it up. I can't possibly pick a favorite!
Oh and welcome newbies!
ETA: Another easter egg: Watch all of (or just skip to the end of) “The Music” featurette. When the Menu pops back up, “What Just Happened?” will be selected, press 6 then enter. Something will flash across the screen; all I can say is be afraid, be very afraid. It is very fast. I got a screencap of it tho, so if you miss it, email me. I credit DJ from the doctorhorrible.net fansite for finding this.
[ edited by Linnea1928 on 2008-12-26 06:14 ]
Linnea1928 | December 25, 20:19 CET
slothrop-T | December 25, 20:23 CET
But it's getting late, and I'm all rhymed out, full rest.
Welcome to you, too, slothrop-T!
I know that name isn't meant to $&^@ up me.
Pointy | December 25, 21:28 CET
JoAnnP38 | December 25, 21:38 CET
Have to admit though we were a little disappointed there were no Wiccan subtitles. The Easter eggs are definitely cool, but I would have really enjoyed seeing how Joss and Co. would do up those subtitles. It reminded me of The Holy Grail's unique subtitles. Ah. More good times.
Well I hope you all had a very Merry Christmas!
Likewithpie | December 25, 22:03 CET
The real Wiccan subtitles are invisible if you don't use magic.
Anonymous1 | December 25, 22:12 CET
Any chance someone's working on a transcript for Commentary: The Musical?
QuanticoMVP | December 25, 23:22 CET
Donnie | December 26, 03:10 CET
"10 dollar solo" is the one stuck in my head too.
I didn't think either of my ELE applications (mine or my friends that I helped make) were league worthy after viewing others, but I was happy to see that the one I worked on harder (my friend's Fright Sprite) made it to the top 75 of the dishonorable mention list before the font got small and started moving really fast. If only they had done a top 100 instead of a top 10.
I really liked the cutinator song though, but it didn't even get near the top of the dishonorable mention page. Her "Awesome song about NPH is also really great.
I knew that The Reverend and Princess Zombie would make it.
Jayne's Hat | December 26, 03:32 CET
(oh and hai! I remembered to join on a public holiday! I no longer need to remember to ask gossi to post things for me when I very occasionally have something useful to say :D)
scottbert | December 26, 05:30 CET
Welcome, scottbert!
Pointy | December 26, 08:15 CET
And welcome newbies (don't you hate being a newbie?), but I'm not reposting the lyrics link to people who don't read upthread! (I'm so mean). I hope everyone had an awesome Christmas like I did (everyone excited to get Dr. Horrible, while I got Doctor Who series 4, AND Veronica Mars season 3!). Happy 2009!
embers | December 26, 09:03 CET
Doc says they are working on lyrics it. Done Soonish.
Here is a fan created lyrics
Commentary: The Musical! Lyrics <----- the link. Hint: Click it.
Commentary!
Commentary!
Commentary!
Fasten your seatbelts, it's a commentary!
Everyone loves
These "making of's"
The story behind the scenes
The way that we got
That one cool shot
And what it all means
We'll talk about the writing
We'll probably say,
"It's great!"
And the acting's so exciting
Except for Nate
NF: I phoned it in.
Commentary!
Commentary!
[ edited by Anonymous1 on 2008-12-26 18:16 ]
Anonymous1 | December 26, 09:12 CET
Astonishing_Chaos | December 26, 09:28 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 26, 09:34 CET
jcs | December 26, 09:36 CET
*tries to be patient*...*fails*...*discovers there's nothing he can do about it either way* ;)
GVH | December 26, 10:04 CET
I've now listened to "Commentary!" about ten or more times. That's hard to do when you're celebrating Xmas with many family members and friends. But somehow I've done it. I particularly love Joss's plaintive song, but am also partial to Ninja Ropes, $10 Solo, I'm Better Than Neil, Zack's rap "I Don't Do Songs," Moist's jazz ditty, the "It's All About Me" (brilliant involvement by Marti Noxon and David Fury and Lisa Lassek and, I think, Rick Green? Or?), Steve's Song, Neil's musical breakdown, Felicia's song, oh, hell, I love them all.
I gave 6 Horrible DVDs as presents. Kept two for myself: one is going to be a "loaner" copy. Yes, I shall be spreading horribleness wherever I go.
phlebotinin | December 26, 10:13 CET
hacksaway | December 26, 10:22 CET
SMG aside, I wonder who was being referred to in an interview by one of Horrible's producers (can't remember who it was) as a mystery person who dropped by during filming and might have ended up participating. This Horrible producer (?) didn't want to spill the beans. I doubt he meant any of the writers - Marti Noxon, David Fury, Doug Petrie, Drew Goddard - who did cameos because why single out just one of them? Anyone else remember this statement?
phlebotinin | December 26, 10:31 CET
dreamlogic | December 26, 10:53 CET
I'm trusting that the DVD really does exist, and this thread isn't just an enormous practical joke at my expense. ;)
@theonetruebix | December 26, 10:55 CET
Chris inVirginia | December 26, 11:00 CET
Pointy | December 26, 11:02 CET
hacksaway | December 26, 11:05 CET
phlebotinin | December 26, 11:07 CET
But Joss felt really bad that so many people sent money to Amazon just because of a practical joke he planned, so if you ordered it, then Joss and Co. stop by your house and hang out with you while you watch it online. That's why delivery is taking so long for some people.
kishi | December 26, 11:10 CET
NurseBobbi | December 26, 11:37 CET
phlebotinin | December 26, 11:41 CET
NurseBobbi | December 26, 11:46 CET
It Should Have Been Me
Here's a tale as old as dirt and holes
A simple fan, whose puppet-gal
Grew up sucking souls.
I sent my application, but didn't win a thing,
Though I sent the judges lottsa gold and bling.
It should have been me.
It should have been me.
It's Sockubus
It's QuoterGal's
The Sockubus.
And if I had any screentime at all, you'd see
It should have been me.
Here's a tale that must be told - and fast.
Of souls that must be eaten
And evil built to last.
My moment was so fleeting
Though my talent is so vast!
Evil League "winners" were hopelessly outclassed.
It should have been me.
It should have been me.
No matter what you think you heard about this travesty.
And if I had any screentime at all you'd see
It should have been me.
I'm listed way far down
in "Dishonorable Mentions"
Although I'm positive
It wasn't their intentions.
You'll never know how much I gave.
For several hours
I worked real hard
I thought I was the Evil Bard.
But they did not agree.
That it should have been me.
It should have been me.
It doesn't matter where I'm listed on the DVD.
It's on the right and very close to last in tiny type.
Just under "Critical Mass"
(and above something that looks very much like "Felicity Firefly"
Or possibly "Penicillin Spider.")
And if you watch my vid
I think you'll agree - finally:
It should have been me.
Not them.
Oh no!
Bastards!
Not them!
Bastards!
Not them!
They're not the stars.
I am.
Not them.
I'm Evil
and should have been accepted
in the League
Not them.
Oh, no!
QuoterGal | December 26, 13:45 CET
I watched Commentary! earlier and my favorite songs are Nobody Wants An Asian (since I'm half Asian) and the $10 Solo. I like the idea for the DVD's easter eggs since you can have hours of fun trying to figure them out. The DVD is unique from other just as the show was.
dorkie99 | December 26, 14:13 CET
Lioness | December 26, 14:18 CET
phlebotinin | December 26, 14:20 CET
embers | December 26, 14:22 CET
I had a very Whedonesque X-mas : Dr. Horrible, Angel boxset (ordered when Amazon had it off), Blue Sun t-shirt, Buffy Season 8 and Fray comics. Needless to say, it was a great X-mas.
SteppeMerc | December 26, 14:42 CET
dreamlogic | December 26, 14:57 CET
Lioness | December 26, 16:06 CET
RaisedByMongrels | December 26, 16:43 CET
hacksaway | December 26, 17:09 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 26, 17:12 CET
@theonetruebix | December 26, 17:22 CET
I don't have the cash dollars to pick up the DVD yet, but I'm looking forward to getting a copy and in the meanwhile having fun reading the feedback on here.
I'd also like to give a shout out to the 150 or so people who watched my ELE application (it was the highly produced "Number One Fan/Public Enemy Number One".
Wait with baited minty breath for its sequel "Applicant Sixhundredandsomething". :*)
Ella78 | December 26, 18:02 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 26, 18:12 CET
[ edited by The One True b!X on 2008-12-27 03:22 ]
@theonetruebix | December 26, 18:21 CET
RaisedByMongrels | December 26, 19:10 CET
I swore I wouldn't get into this again but seriously, why would anyone accept a denial offered by Joss at Comic-con in which he jokes that it was really Nicholas Brendan? If it were going to be a sort of hidden surprise gag, why wouldn't he deny it? Why spoil the fun? That denial never struck me as definitive. But, whatever. It really does seem as if it *wasn't* SMG. Too bad. Random cameos are fun.
b!X, that really sucks about UPS.
phlebotinin | December 26, 19:26 CET
Tonya J | December 26, 19:29 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 26, 19:30 CET
QuoterGal, Sockubus will be notorious one day, now that she's had her eyes (or eye) done. Maybe next time, in her upcoming sequel. Sockubus 2 - Soul, you think you can dance, the musical.(tm)
Congrats those who have their Dr H DVDs and also curses * shakes fists at you all* (in the nicest possible way). And also, curse you Fake SMG!@#$ (possible ELoE ploy to do our heads in ?)
Merry Xmas and to some of you, hope you have a Horrible new year!
RollingInKittens | December 26, 19:53 CET
Back to Dr. Horrible: this is a really obscure observation, but sometimes when Felicia is talking in a very fast manner in those between-songs interludes in "Commentary!", she reminds me uncannily of the Little Rhoda character in The Bad Seed. Anyone else know what I mean? It freaks me out (in an enjoyable way).
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2008-12-27 05:00 ]
phlebotinin | December 26, 19:58 CET
But not depressed by the sadness? Where are most of those newbies now? Not here. We always get great crops of newbies, but then they get bored, or upset, or beyond bored, and they go away. Because we suck.
dreamlogic | December 26, 20:51 CET
However, since bobw1o did see someone whedonesque-y:
"Another Whedon Alum stopped by, but only to visit. In the case that this person is a cast member though, I'm gonna keep that one for now."
I, like a few other folks, am now inclined to think it's Juliet Landau.
Welcome to all our new (and vocal) members, some of whom have very difficult-to-rhymey names.
And belated Happy Chrismahanukwanzakah to all...
QuoterGal | December 26, 20:51 CET
[ edited by Pointy on 2008-12-27 06:37 ]
Pointy | December 26, 21:36 CET
slayathon | December 26, 21:57 CET
SteppeMerc | December 26, 22:13 CET
doubtful guest | December 26, 23:18 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 27, 00:13 CET
The questions raised here are simultaneously thought-provoking and troubling, and that was hilariously phrased.
ef | December 27, 00:44 CET
EDIT: Credit where credit is due, as far as I can tell now it was Phlebotinin and Hacksaway who first remembered that I said a someone else was on set. Though I was mis-remembered at first as a producer or other crew member. Wouldn't complain though.
EDIT: Also for clarification - I was not on set the day Fake SMG was there, I cannot confirm or deny her presence other than my own opinion (and I choose to believe Joss)
The Whedon alumnus I saw stop by was Amy Acker, and it was the day on the late, great Universal backlot. She was there just hanging out with her kids. Nathan came over to play with them too. There's actually a shot or two in the behind-the-scenes where you can kinda see her, though you cannot make out who it is. The shot shows a bunch of crew, and behind them on the right half of the screen is the door that is behind Penny when you first see her handing out fliers. If you see a shape at the bottom of that door, that's Amy and/or her children. And I'm just to the right of that unrecognizable shape, but I think I'm blocked by equipment and people. I was torn between playing with the kids and watching Joss direct! I compromised by splitting my attention.
As you'll know from the commentary (not Commentary!) they ran late that day. Two memorable quotes from Otto (the assistant director and wonderflonium van driver) and Joss
Following a shot taken around 4pm (the day started at 7am and all the shots required sunlight)
Otto: (sarcastically) Great! We're halfway through our shot list!
(everyone laughs)
Joss: (lamenting) It's funny cause it's true!
(everyone laughs a lot more)
Later, Joss gave a very short and stressed, but still jovial, speech about how they needed to hustle because they were losing light. The speech gained gusto as he went and at the end he threw his arms toward the sky, looked up, spotted something, and said:
Joss: And apparently that's the moon!
[ edited by bobw1o on 2008-12-27 17:38 ]
[ edited by bobw1o on 2008-12-27 17:39 ]
[ edited by bobw1o on 2008-12-27 17:58 ]
bobw1o | December 27, 08:25 CET
embers | December 27, 08:47 CET
Also, great work, QG.
Sockubus will show 'em in the end, I'm sure. :)
jcs | December 27, 08:57 CET
bobw1o | December 27, 08:59 CET
Okay, off to do productive things with my day.
bobw1o | December 27, 09:16 CET
Edited to add: Welcome to all the newbies! Welcome, and happy holidays.
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2008-12-27 21:19 ]
phlebotinin | December 27, 10:21 CET
Pointy | December 27, 11:34 CET
@theonetruebix | December 27, 11:42 CET
I saw it as Joss putting a ridiculous rumor to rest and Maurissa simply joking around because the whole thing was just too impossible. Funny stuff! :)
I don't see the malice you are attributing to them.
IrrationaliTV | December 27, 12:42 CET
Pointy | December 27, 13:24 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 27, 13:38 CET
Therefore, it wasn't. Nice little Whedonesque urban myth though.
The Arcane | December 27, 13:40 CET
Pointy | December 27, 13:44 CET
That was the bottom line that I bought.
DisChunk | December 27, 13:51 CET
@theonetruebix | December 27, 13:52 CET
Pointy | December 27, 13:55 CET
IrrationaliTV | December 27, 13:59 CET
Not to mention the ultra-top-secret file on how FOX is actually owned and controlled by Jebadiah Whedon, Joss' sadistic, evil twin brother, obsessed with destroying every project Joss attempts to get off the ground.
Must be true because I read it online (in the paragraph just above this one).
The Arcane | December 27, 14:01 CET
Favorites are the chorus of Zack's rap, and Felicia plugging The Guild.
Looking forward to a CD of Commentary.
farfly | December 27, 14:01 CET
Dunno - and don't care that much - about all the in-and-outs of the SMG theory/tale as it unfolded, but will go on record as saying Joss and Co. are clearly big ol' kidders of epic proportions, so anything they've said about this may have been in fun - and that disguise may have been used to 1) hide a face we'd recognize for story reasons or 2) hide a face we'd recognize for contractual reasons or 3) just create a little mystery for us all. It's achieved all three.
I'm loving "Commentary! The Musical" enormously - it really is extraordinary - a whole 'nother great musical as a DVD bonus is truly groundbreaking. I get such a sense of people at the top of their game - with an enormous sense of play - getting to, I dunno, meta-comment about stuff large and small. (I don't mean that making "Commentary!" wasn't hard work - just that their LARGE talents and camaraderie has created something really playful and special.)
I'd do more "Whedonesque Commentary! Commentary in Song Form" (thanks, Lioness, phlebotinin, dreamlogic, RollingInKittens and jcs) but I don't want to be the only one playing. Someone else has to write one, too. Prontissimo, if that's a word.
(And just so all y'all know for sure, I'm truly under no illusion/delusion that I really should have won the ELoE application contest - mine was poorly-produced and half-assed, and next to just about all of the other applications suffers by comparison. I just thought it would be hilariously-fanatically singleminded to listen to the whole new musical and react to that first.)
ETF: Ooops - "undistilled" Jossery would be nowhere near as strong, I think, as "distilled" Jossery - so I've changed it to "undiluted" - which is more what I meant.
[ edited by QuoterGal on 2008-12-28 00:59 ]
QuoterGal | December 27, 14:30 CET
farfly | December 27, 14:41 CET
DisChunk's friend's word is pretty persuasive to me. Certainly far more persuasive than Joss's statement (since he can be pretty Jossian and jokey) at Comicon. And certainly far, far more persuasive than the "too impossible" or "ridiculous" theory. How exactly is it "impossible?" Terribly unlikely, yes. But "too impossible?" It's not as if SMG is an A-grade movie star. And even if she were...I don't have the time or inclination to track down all the bizarre uncredited cameos by big-name people that have happened in the history of film and TV but they are out there, googleable. So, impossible? Not entirely.
If people want to still wonder about it, why not let them? Perhaps this is a rumor that is meant to persist, like the "Paul is Dead" thing. How long did that last? Maybe that's not the best example.
Ooh, farfly, you might be onto something! :)
Edited to add: My current fave "Commentary!" song is Nathan's "I'm Better Than Neil." I just love his gleeful silliness. Then again, I'm not sure anything can yet dislodge my love for Joss's plaintive song.
Oh, and please, does anyone know what I mean about the Felicia in her Commentary! character being uncannily similar to Little Rhoda of The Bad Seed? Anyone?
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2008-12-28 00:03 ]
phlebotinin | December 27, 14:58 CET
Rhoda is so completely artificial, and though they both share the "playing-doe-eyed-innocence" thing, what's underneath Fakey Sweet Rhoda is malevolent (on the surface) and sorta-clunky-child-precociousness, as the actor. Felicia playing innocence is so much better, and it feels like it conceals a more down-to-earth and earthier presence beneath.
I know you are talking about something in a vocal similarity and more surface-y - but still, I can't hear a connection between the two - those differences I mentioned come through in the voice for me.
These kindof connection/perceptions, though, are so individual and idiosyncratic, it's not surprising if nobody else hears it - I hear these things all the time and my partner just looks at me like I have three heads and all of them kinda odd.
QuoterGal | December 27, 15:38 CET
gossi | December 27, 15:42 CET
(I gotta figure out how to work this quoting stuff)
You know it's funny, I'm not sure why I didn't put the Joss quotes in at the time. But keeping Amy Acker a secret was hard until I realized she wasn't in it. And keeping the costumes secret! OMG!!! I really wanted to tell everyone about Nathan's Hammer insignia! And Dr. Horrible's outfit is so great. I dunno if it's been mentioned before, but everyone recognizes Dr. Horrible's doctor jacket/smock thing right? Firefly fans should recognize it, And Alien Resurrection fans too...
It's a shame though that I left the quotes out, cause I repeated the speech to myself as to remember the whole thing, but now it's been so long. I can't believe I neglected to write it down! I might've thought they would reflect negatively and didn't want to spoil the fun.
It's so weird looking back on all that. I found out about Dr. Horrible the day NPH mentioned it and it made it onto the internet. The next day filming started and Joss confirmed that it existed, and the day after that I was on set! Just days earlier and we all thought the next Joss show was Dollhouse!
I actually found out that he was doing SOMEthing earlier that week when Ryan Green's brother Peter (both of them, their sister, and their father Jack are on the Serenity behind the scenes, collectors edition only maybe?) came in to work. I realized who his dad was and proudly announced, "You're dad shot Serenity!" He was waiting for me to say "Unforgiven" or one of another 30 movies! After he remembered what Serenity was he spoke very highly of the film and of Joss and of the fans and then mentioned his brother was shooting something soon for Joss! I got all excited and then surprise, Ryan was in a few days later. Is it weird that I still have a copy of the equipment list with Timescience Blood Club at the top?
[ edited by bobw1o on 2008-12-28 00:57 ]
bobw1o | December 27, 15:55 CET
Yes, and also no.
@theonetruebix | December 27, 16:05 CET
gossi - Heh. Indeed, we do. Perhaps we should rename the SMG thing "bison."
bobw1o - You're like a god or something. You have scaled the heights of Olympus. It's thrilling to read your recountings.
phlebotinin | December 27, 16:08 CET
TDBrown | December 27, 16:37 CET
gossi | December 27, 16:43 CET
It's funny to see the people that believed it (It's too crazy not to be true!) and the people that didn't (it's too crazy to be true!). I knew Nathan was in it and mentioned a special surprise for browncoats, and then it was hacksaway who mentioned Nathan was supposed to be doing something special soon, and maybe this was it. There was much speculation to be had, it was quite fun. Then Joss came out with it later on the thread:
"The cat is bagless"
And then I said I told you so, like I said I would. I wonder which side of the discussion I'd have been on if I hadn't actually known? And worse yet, what if NPH hadn't mentioned it in that interview? Egads, it'd have been a secret for longer!!! That would have been impossible to be quiet about!
I'm so lucky to have made it to that set, and glad I can share whedony goodness with everyone here. I wish I was there more. So I could share more, no other reason! Just wait until I start telling you behind-the scenes stuff about Dollhouse! Is it okay for me to squee a bit or is that a little weird? Ah jeez, that set....
bobw1o | December 27, 17:55 CET
That is so true. After watching weeks of dribs and drabs of Dollhouse coming out, I've been thinking of how wonderfully sudden Horrible was.
bobw1o You're writing it all down this time, right?
[ edited by jcs on 2008-12-28 02:58 ]
jcs | December 27, 17:57 CET
bobw1o | December 27, 18:12 CET
DisChunk | December 27, 19:19 CET
And yes on the horizon there's a sequel
With some substantial bits for Mr. Me.
Cause that's pretty damn awesome, whether irreverent or true. More awesome if true of course.
Sunfire | December 27, 19:44 CET
Rachelkachel | December 27, 20:14 CET
bobw1o | December 27, 20:48 CET
@theonetruebix | December 27, 20:57 CET
RollingInKittens | December 27, 22:18 CET
Well, as far as I'm concerned, sequel is definite, Dollhouse will be done shooting for the season by February, so whenever Neil et al are free after that I suppose they could shoot. Hoorah!
[ edited by bobw1o on 2008-12-28 09:25 ]
bobw1o | December 27, 23:44 CET
RollingInKittens | December 28, 01:24 CET
Sunfire | December 28, 08:20 CET
Springmaus | December 28, 08:20 CET
It was interesting to hear Joss's piece about commentaries (Pick It Apart). I'm curious to hear how much it reflects his feelings about doing commentary. I've always thought his commentary on Objects in Space was a wonderful example of telling us "what it means" in a way that enhances the experience of the episode and makes me think about life more deeply. Would hate to think he actually hates doing commentaries like that, 'cause I want more!
Thanks to all the writers, cast, and crew of Dr. Horrible for a wonderful gift!
speechlady | December 28, 08:26 CET
embers | December 28, 08:27 CET
I had begun to assume that a sequel probably wasn't going to happen - not because the people involved weren't enthusiastic as hell, but because of time issues, etc. This is big. Big!
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2008-12-28 18:07 ]
phlebotinin | December 28, 08:51 CET
How is this news? They've said before there's going to be a sequel part publicly, I'm sure.
[ edited by gossi on 2008-12-28 18:15 ]
gossi | December 28, 09:13 CET
I would swear that everything in the media since July has been wishy-washy as far as a sequel goes. No one has denied that a sequel would happen and there's been a lot of hope, but no one has confirmed it (to me or my eyes).
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2008-12-28 18:20 ]
phlebotinin | December 28, 09:17 CET
"Again, thank you, thank you, thank you to you! Our fans! This literally would not have been possible without you. And because of you, there is more to come...
Yours,
J, M, J, Z"
gossi | December 28, 09:26 CET
I must say, those lines in Steve's song about a sequel for sure coming were a big tip-off. I didn't think that they'd be so cruel as to inject that in there just because.
phlebotinin | December 28, 09:28 CET
Simon | December 28, 09:29 CET
Here's why they should make a sequel - aside from the fact there's obviously a lot of story blood left in it, if you want to prove a business model, a critical thing is to repeat a hit. Do it again, and people will start to seriously take notice.
gossi | December 28, 09:32 CET
Sunfire | December 28, 09:49 CET
embers | December 28, 09:57 CET
@theonetruebix | December 28, 10:34 CET
embers | December 28, 10:49 CET
@theonetruebix | December 28, 11:05 CET
gossi | December 28, 12:07 CET
@theonetruebix | December 28, 12:11 CET
UnpluggedCrazy | December 28, 12:38 CET
Linnea1928 | December 28, 12:39 CET
phlebotinin | December 28, 13:13 CET
@theonetruebix | December 28, 13:17 CET
Apropos of nothing except, well, Dr. Horrible, the two DVDs I got that I opened (as opposed to sent to others) do not have that DVD-R purpleish back (whatever the terminology is I don't know it). They are silver-backed and "Dr Horrible" is imprinted on that tiny innermost circle ridge thingie (again with the lack of terminology). I thought DVD-Rs couldn't do the latter and were also always purpleish on the burned side. Can anyone comment on this? Might the first batch have been actual DVD pressings because they knew they could sell at least X number of DVDs right off the bat? I've seen in discussions elsewhere that it actually might have made economic sense to do that.
Sorry to bring this DVD stuff up, b!X. I know that your DVD story is grim. Bastard UPSers.
phlebotinin | December 28, 13:58 CET
@theonetruebix | December 28, 14:03 CET
Rachelkachel | December 28, 14:27 CET
hacksaway | December 28, 15:07 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 00:23 CET
*sobs*
It's sad and confusing!
I know full well that a majority of you can write me under the table - and that many of you don't have your DVDs yet - so *sigh* I can wait a little longer for these gems. But don't leave me hanging forever!?!
I just know we can pull together and make this the best Commentary commentary ever!
QuoterGal | December 29, 01:29 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 01:38 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 02:25 CET
embers | December 29, 08:38 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 19:29 CET
I totally fell down on this one. In my defense, there was a House marathon on for two whole days and I have a soft spot for misanthropic medicine. I will try to come up with something not-awful this week.
Sunfire | December 29, 19:45 CET
witnessaria | December 29, 21:40 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 21:41 CET
Glad I came back here because I had the same newsletter email, from Team Horrible (not directly from Joss), and just hadn't opened it. Nice. And how interesting - at the bottom of the email it appears that Dr. H has an address on Pico Blvd. Wonder what that is. His lab? His post office box?
Tonya J | December 29, 21:48 CET
Fox.
@theonetruebix | December 29, 21:51 CET
Sunfire | December 29, 21:53 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 22:25 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 23:08 CET
@theonetruebix | December 29, 23:30 CET
crazygirlne | December 31, 07:23 CET
Commentary! The Musical Commentary Song
I'll start out small
doing things you'll hardly notice
It's MY turn
Soon, I'll be more powerful than POTUS
Look, I've been supporting you people
for years, nearly every one of you
Whedon, feed me some grapes
Fillion, brush my silky hair, now
I'm aware that might sound slightly snotty,
Carrying out a former minion's wishes, but
If you don't you'll be sleeping with the fishes
... along with Bad Horse
Harris, aren't you listening! Go wash my Porsche!
Spent money on DVDs - endless hours watching Buffy
Oatmeal at 6am watching Angel on TNT
I deserve some glamour, some money, some JUICE ... (I know!)
David Boreanaz will be my masseuse
Mirror Mirror on the wall, WHO'S the scariest of all?
Well, that would be me (no, I'm not nice)
I'll take over all the studios and bend them to my will
And you can make your movies ... for a price
Muwahaha - haha - ha! I'm having so much fun
I think I'll turn an arabesque and
After that I'll hack WHEDONesque!
I'll mix up the colors and scold who I wish
Especially those who are posing as scribes
And that cute moderator, Sodding Nancy Tribe?
He'll do my bidding or ... you got it, da fish.
Oh, I wish it was real, for once my due given
I want power, I want fame, just like Jeremy Piven
The world shall be my Entourage
'Cause it's my turn, it's finally my turn.
Tonya J | December 31, 19:13 CET
I so want Commentary! on my iPod.
Aloha Joe | December 31, 21:19 CET
@theonetruebix | December 31, 21:32 CET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8iLDfk134
Aloha Joe | January 01, 12:22 CET
Side q: Did anyone get a message from Joss with the DVD? I thought it was mentioned before, but alas I'm without... so I thought I'd check.
korkster | January 02, 13:43 CET
zeitgeist | January 02, 14:27 CET
@theonetruebix | January 02, 14:50 CET
So shiny.
skittledog | January 03, 03:35 CET