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January 07 2009

Joss hopeful for more Dr. Horrible. "Until I'm sure how I can roll it out, I will say nothing except that I'm definitely pursuing that". He also wants to try more new stuff on the Internet.

He could put the ballet on the Internet, if they ever get to do it.

ETA that I noticed he once again in some recent interview talked about loving radio, and it should be noted the Internet isn't just for video. I keep saying it, but a Joss Whedon radio show would be an awesome thing.

[ edited by The One True b!X on 2009-01-07 10:00 ]
That would be a very good idea.
Can you imagine the press response to that one? "Not only can Joss Whedon make a hit on the Internet, he can make ballet a hit on the Internet."
he could do it. Michelle Tratchenberg, Summer Glau.

Hot dancing action....wait mind just drifted to something else........bah fine dancing.
I'm kinda surprised there hasn't been (or maybe I just haven't seen it) discussion about Steve's Song saying "and yes on the horizon there's a sequel" seems pretty affirmative that they're doing something - or at least planning to!
It came up. But as I keep saying, it's nothing new. They've been saying since Comic-Con they would do more if they can, and it always sounded (to me anyway) like Joss knew where it would go next. So while it's reassuring (to me) to have it repeated and reiterated, it's still a "re".

Frankly, the new(ish) stuff (combined with the WGA profile) in this piece seems to be that he's definitely pondering other Internet work. I don't recall that being quite as explicit in the past as it has been recently.
Yes, yes! A thousand times yes! Not that I'm pleading of course...hmmtp.
Yeah, the tenor of that WGA piece was that he was a bit cheesed off with the studio/network system even when it went well (saying it was too slow compared to DHSAB). In 3-4 years I could see him only doing movies with big studios and going indie (or indie-ish) for ongoing series/shorter form productions (I mean, I could see that if 'Dollhouse' wasn't going to run for 12 seasons ;).

And for myself, more Dr Horrible would be fab but more new stuff would be fantastically fab.
I mean, I could see that if 'Dollhouse' wasn't going to run for 12 seasons


Don't we pretty much have confirmation on that from gossi?
I mean... I do wonder what the fuzz is all about...

[ edited by wiesengrund on 2009-01-07 11:41 ]
Yeah true, I don't know what I was thinking ;).
Can't we have both, Saje?
My only fear with going internet-only/mainly would be that I think Joss works best in arc-form. So unless he started an ongoing internet series, we'd lose my favorite part of his work.

Not that I'd stop watching, by any means, and any day with new Joss content is a day I don't leave the house until I've seen it. I just don't think I'd want him to give up TV completely.
Yeah. I doubt many people want him to work solely or mainly on little internet projects. But I find the idea of more projects like Dr. Horrible really exciting. He can get unfiltered (by studios or television executives) work out really quickly and he could create new characters all the time. It would be a great way for him to try out lots of different genres (eg. porn as Saje was pushing for in another thread). But hopefully not at the expense of his television and movie work
Hah, maybe not quite "pushing for" ;).

So unless he started an ongoing internet series, we'd lose my favorite part of his work.

Ongoing series are entirely possible on the internet, just look at Felicia and 'The Guild'. I also think that watching stuff on the net and watching stuff on our tellys will have got (a bit) closer in 3-4 years (you can already get e.g. 'The Guild' on your Xbox to view on your main TV).

Can't we have both, Saje?

I think even Joss might struggle to both go indie "(or indie-ish) for ongoing series/shorter form productions" and carry on making an ongoing series/shorter form production for a major studio and network ;).
I hear he's also pairing with Guy Fieri for a new series on The Food Network: "Guy and Joss' This Bites!" ;-)
Maybe NPH could pop up on Dollhouse to ask for a doll who thinks it's Penny, and then it ends all depressing. Whoa, my mind just went to some dark, horribly sad places (that's really where it does most of its dwelling, to be honest).
I'm just waiting/hoping for a Felicia cameo on How I Met Your Mother, UnpluggedCrazy.
"Shadow Puppets" *snerk*

I think The Serving Girl as an Internet Release, followed by a Soundtrack of Joss' Original Score
and a DVD would be... well... Shiny. Fingers crossed.
Yeah, great idea. Joss was asked in an interview what he'd do with The Serving Girl once he'd made it and he wasn't too sure (he suggested taking it to indie film festivals). The internet seems an ideal place to release it
Joss's recent comments show two trends:
1. He's positive on web-based indie production
2. He's negative on traditional studio-overseen production

Reading between the lines, I'm wondering if his thoughts on Dollhouse are, "I'll do a great job with the 13-episode run. If Fox doesn't extend it, that's fine. It will have been a good 13-ep self-contained miniseries, and I can focus my time on the web-based projects that interest me most."
How would Joss feel about writing a tradition Broadway musical?

Normally I would have said he'd jump at the chance because of his long-term interest in musicals, Sondheim, etc., but would that venue impose the same type of studio-oversight that he dislikes in the TV biz?
I'm a little lukewarm about that idea because it reaches such a small audience. Sure, you can film the musical but watching that isn't really the same. I'd love to see more musicals from Joss but I'd prefer ones that are intended to be filmed
Yep, adding my voice to the chorus of people thinking 'The Serving Girl' would be a great option for an internet release. Other than that: I think it's great that Joss wants to expand into more original internet programming. If new projects are only half as good as Dr. Horrible, it'll still be well worth the time.

As for his last quote: is this the first time we've seen Joss express (in, obviously, a funny way like we'd expect him too) some direct discomfort at the reshooting process (other than saying changes were his idea and/or necessary)?
I think so, GVH, and I think that offhand comment far better reflects his real attitude. Most of his comments on how the network was right in many ways should be filed along with his comments on how studio notes on Goners and Wonder Woman were 'not wrong'. Of course, I file my collection of Whedon comments alphabetically
I think Joss should combine several of his interests and do "The Serving Girl" as a Radio Ballet, and release it on the internet.

If radio can make a star out of a ventriloquist and some dummies, then maybe there's room for a ballet.

Or puppets - on the radio. I know he was gonna do the ballet with Summer, but he should also consider an experienced puppet... um, dancer. Puppet-dancer. On the radio.

Just trying to think outside the box.
Shadow puppets are particularly radio friendly because you can save a bundle on the lighting budget.
ETA that I noticed he once again in some recent interview talked about loving radio, and it should be noted the Internet isn't just for video. I keep saying it, but a Joss Whedon radio show would be an awesome thing.

The One True b!X I couldn't agree more. Joss would make radio cool again.
Shadow puppets are particularly radio friendly because you can save a bundle on the lighting budget.


LOL!

Hmm, "The Sound of Shadows in the Dark" would make a good title for something, but I don't know what.
Radio maybe, Podcasts definitely.
How about a joint podcast with Ron Moore to be released after a Friday of Dollhouse and BSG ?
To much of a good thing ?
Yeah, jpr. The universe would then, unfortunately, implode because of sheer awesomeness. Sorry.

The Sound of Shadows in the Dark


I sense a new Who "the girl in the library" fanfic in the making.
A Joss podcast, be it the traditional creative-person-talking-about-stuff kind or an actual radio-show-style fiction kind, would be wonderful!
he could do it. Michelle Tratchenberg, Summer Glau.

Don't forget that Amy Acker studied ballet. I'd love to see her involved in such a ballet.

But, a Joss radio show would be fantastic. The Joss Whedon Radio Hour.
Serving Girl! Serving Girl! Pleeease?
I adore the idea of the balletshortio as Joss's next Internet adventure. It would be new ground all over again.
A radio thing would be phenomenal. Arguably "Commentary!" is radio-like in that its storyline unfolds in pretty much an audible space only. There are occasional ties to what's going on in the movie, but it's its own thing - at least that's how I've experienced it. Actually, I've only ever listened to "Commentary!," not "watched" it. So for me, it's like a radio production. Bring it on, Joss!

Serving Girl would be fantastic, too.
Shadow Puppets=Alan Tudyk
Theres only 3 ways dr horrible could continue in my mind.
1.Same as part 1 released online.
2.Podcast form
3.Big movie production.

I will be overly annoyed if its some comic book continuation.
I still think Joss should establish his own internet network or collaborate with an existing one, like TheWB or striketv, and have his own all Whedonverse channel where he could air his own projects and provide a venue for his current and former cast and crew. I would pay cashy money for that (although since I can't find a slot on my laptap for the quarters I'm willing to do it credit card/paypal instead).
Mutant Enemy and/or similar companies making shows for the internet on a big scale because the studio system is somewhat hostile to their creative vision and process is what I hope Dr. Horrible is heralding, actually. But I think they have to start Horrible-sized until they get a good grasp of what they can and can't do with the internet as a broadcast medium.

[ edited by Sunfire on 2009-01-07 20:48 ]
Horrible-sized. Or even Session 416-sized.
From small yet fun Horrible size, to disconcertingly larger-than-life Hammer size... then comes Giant Stomping Horrible, in which we all flee shrieking in terror from his big stompy feet.
Oh yeah, definitely down the line. But it's the kind of thing where thinking about it and maybe talking about it wishfully with friends and colleagues over lunch will someday lead to exploring options. And by then it's writ in stone, of course. ;)
Step 1 is writ in glorious DVD format already. They can do this, better than anyone else out there. They've proven the basic concept, they just need to plot out the next steps for experimenting. Which I think they are doing.

And then by 2010, they take over the world. It's very simple really.

[ edited by Sunfire on 2009-01-07 21:11 ]
A radio thing would be phenomenal. Arguably "Commentary!" is radio-like in that its storyline unfolds in pretty much an audible space only. There are occasional ties to what's going on in the movie, but it's its own thing - at least that's how I've experienced it. Actually, I've only ever listened to "Commentary!," not "watched" it. So for me, it's like a radio production. Bring it on, Joss!

I felt the exact same way, phlebotinin. :)

Serving Girl as a balletio would be MARVELOUS. And he could do his appointment time, which I personally loved.

I think Dr. Horrible could continue as a straight-to-DVD thing (if desired) and maintain its life on the web.

But we also know that he has hordes of stories chattering in his head. I want to see them all!

I'm so glad that Dr. Horrible worked out for them, creatively and financially. Maybe this is the beginning of the hike to a Mutant Enemy network, whether that be web/television/or movie. :) Long live happy days! And World Domination by 2010!
Normally, I hate sequels. I think they're always done too rush, too late, and they take away from the original...

HOWEVER, if anyone could pull it off - it would be Joss. The man's vision is amazing and his talent for story telling comes second to none.

Mebbe Dr.Horrible can re-animate Penny. He IS a Doctor after all.
Frankly, the new(ish) stuff (combined with the WGA profile) in this piece seems to be that he's definitely pondering other Internet work. I don't recall that being quite as explicit in the past as it has been recently.

I wonder if how well Dr. Horrible DVD has been doing on Amazon.com has anything to do with Joss new attitude? :)

Because for a while there, Joss was still unsure if the production would be able to turn a profit. Now looking at the DVD sales, iTunes sales, plus any revenue from Hulu, he can see that he can fund these types of series without the studio. Plus Joss can likely see how much money can be made so that the next project can have a specific budget.

That said, I'm surprised that no one else from Hollywood has taken Joss' lead and gone ahead with an internet series without the studio.
I like their subject title better!

Huzzah! Whedon promises there will be more Dr. Horrible!


Squeeee!!!
http://www.pcavote.com/pca/show/nominees/

Dr. Horrible wins People's Choice Award vote, but it isn't actually given out or mentioned during the telecast of the awards show. Much like that Emmy vote featuring Buffy that was never actually included in that telecast.

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