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January 26 2009

"Taken" with George Hertzberg to be released in the U.S. this Friday. The film also features Holly Valance. Back in 2003, a British tabloid claimed she would be taking over as Buffy for the 8th season.

I don't think it was Valance who made that claim. Wasn't it just a story made up by a British tabloid (the Daily Record, as I recall)?
Yes it was the Daily Star who made up the story, I'll amend the entry.
Hehe. XD

She was in Neighbors too. She had left before Dichen Lachman's char showed up but heh, I still remember her. Heh.
Adam was a pretty cheesy idea for a character, but Hertzberg really knocked it out of the park. Joss has always had a knack for getting multi-layered performances out of people in roles that could have been either dreadfully campy or thuggishly one-note. The Master, Luke, Adam, Groo, Jayne. As much as people hammer Joss with the "why the strong women" cliche, the "why the complex musclemen" is just as much a hallmark of his writing.
I saw this a few months ago and really enjoyed it. Didn't notice George Hertzberg though.
This movie is awesome. I highly recommend it to everyone in need of a good action flick.
This was a pretty good movie. Worth seeing for Liam Neesan alone.
I had no idea this hadn't been released in America yet? I swear I saw it months and months and months ago in Australia. How bizarre. Terrible movie however, the end is just hilariously bad.
Netflix does not list George in the cast, so the part must be very small. He was so good as Adam.
Holly Valance as Buffy? Could work. Make no mistake, I am a huge huge fan of SMG but Buffy is a character that should live on and have a number of different actors portray her. It's happened already. And Ms. Valance looks like she could do the character proud.
Please explain why you think it is a Terrible movie aapac.
I do not mind you thinking so, even though I liked it, but please explain why you disliked it.

While we are on the subject, I liked it because it highlighted a real life issue that is seldom tackled. While it was sort of like a TV movie, it was a well done Tv movie in my opinion.
For the record: Growing up a teenage boy in the 90's in Australia - Holly Valance was pretty much the most desirable thing that existed in the whole world. 'Flick' from Neighbours was pretty much the bomb.
Heh, that's the great thing about 'Neighbours', you can age people by their crush (more a '[not so] Plain Jane, Superbrain' fan myself. And Natalie Imbruglia, obviously ;).

I liked 'Taken' well enough but it's a pretty one note, one layer, one for the boys type of 'ubermensch' action movie. Liam Neeson brings what he can to the role though and he's a pretty believable bad-ass mofo (proving, as always, that it's not in the muscles, it's in the eyes). I just wanted it to ask a few more questions about the value of a man like that to society (and initially at least, it seemed all set to since we see him pretty much floundering at the start of the film, out of his element).

(completely missed George Hertzberg in it BTW)

[ edited by Saje on 2009-01-27 11:28 ]
Jayne's Hat: I haven't seen the film myself but I remember it getting extremely mixed reviews in the UK. Even the positive ones mentioned that the ending was apparently preposterous. Here's a very positive review by William Leith in The Guardian, but in the same paper Xan Brooks pretty much dismissed it as repulsive. To quote another reviewer:

It's quick, lean and very mean but with its all-American paranoia, it might have been written by Sarah Palin, or Kyle's Mom from South Park, which amounts to the same thing.

Many reviewers said that the stereotypes of Europeans drifted between the risible and the downright offensive, in fact I heard Liam Neeson being interviewed when he was promoting the film and he pretty much admitted that he thought the same thing but then dismissed it with a strange giggle.

[ETA -- I know that the film was a largely European production, BTW. I guess that that on its own doesn't necessarily preclude it containing offensive stereotypes of Europeans.]

Beren77: you don't have to be Australian or a teenager to think that Flick was the bomb!

[ edited by dzr on 2009-01-27 11:43 ]
Oh sure, politically it sits just to the right of Genghis Khan and without spoiling (more than the trailer shows) you could read it as justifying a sort of American isolationism/suspicion of European liberalism but then a lot of/most action movies have a right-ish feel to them IMO (I know it's not a clear cut right/left issue but you don't see many action movies with a pro gun-control message for instance ;).

And the fact that it's largely a European production makes me think they were just creating a particular (in some ways quite old fashioned) kind of action hero rather than making a political statement. Neeson's character is basically Arnie in 'Commando' masquerading as e.g. Jason Bourne or the new [to films] James Bond, he's an unstoppable, unapologetic, unreflective killing machine pretending to be a realistically vulnerable man.

That's what I mean by one note/layer though in that the baddies are (usually) so bad and the stakes so high that the hero is never not justified in what he does (or at least, his actions are never questioned by the film when in at least one scene they most assuredly should be IMO).
I liked the extended trailer a lot, which was emailed to me from some studio list I'm on. It probably made the movie seem a lot more interesting than some of the opinions above. As far as there being many Buffy's, and since I would think we'd want Joss to be the one doing Buffy projects, my take is she's not an interchangeable-actor character like Bond is.

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