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Discuss the reviews for Dollhouse.
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February 13 2009
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Simon | February 13, 00:23 CET
Jobo | February 13, 00:23 CET
phlebotinin | February 13, 00:27 CET
Simon | February 13, 00:29 CET
phlebotinin | February 13, 00:34 CET
Also: why is Fox sending out episodes 1, 2 and 4 for review? Is 3 not up to par?
GVH | February 13, 00:37 CET
Septimus | February 13, 00:41 CET
Edited to add: Here's a review from queerty.com. I really like their comparison of "Dollhouse" to "Vertigo." Yes! Cool. Note: I just noticed that some of the photos on queerty.com site may not be considered safe for work.
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2009-02-13 00:51 ]
phlebotinin | February 13, 00:43 CET
Ah well, only a limited amount of time left till the premiere is upon us and we can find out for ourselves (unfortunately, I'm away for the entire weekend. Gah!)
GVH | February 13, 00:51 CET
"Mixed review" seems to be the name of the game, doesn't it? At least most reviewers see real promise in the series and give nods to Joss Whedon's track record and all-around genius.
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2009-02-13 01:45 ]
phlebotinin | February 13, 01:43 CET
DaddyCatALSO | February 13, 02:16 CET
I'm betting that the first few episodes of the series will not be up to what my friends and I expect of Joss, but less than what we expect from Joss seems to be exactly what the public craves!
I think Dollhouse will lure people in by pretending to be something it's not: a compelling procedural. Once the general public (not just Joss fans) are on board, the show will become something more, just like Buffy and Angel (Firefly was something more from word one).
Bad reviews often translate to good ratings, and as often as that has annoyed me, I really hope it holds true.
drnotsobad | February 13, 02:18 CET
SLC Tribune (really negative)
NY Daily News (positive)
Dana5140 | February 13, 02:46 CET
shambleau | February 13, 03:55 CET
LA Times
Newsweek
San Francisco Chronicle
TIME
Star-Ledger
Entertainment Weekly (via CNN)
Edited to add:
Chicago Sun-Times
MSNBC
Las Vegas Review-Journal
Short mentions in:
Miami Herald
Orlando Sentinel
[ edited by Sunfire on 2009-02-13 04:18 ]
Sunfire | February 13, 04:09 CET
Then you should be fired from television criticism.
RCM | February 13, 04:18 CET
Dana5140 | February 13, 04:27 CET
Sunfire | February 13, 04:33 CET
Rachelkachel | February 13, 04:41 CET
RCM | February 13, 04:46 CET
Sacramento Bee
Sunfire | February 13, 04:47 CET
Sunfire | February 13, 04:50 CET
My initial comment- "Then you should be fired from television criticism." was meant to be slightly humorous since we're all Joss fan here.
[ edited by RCM on 2009-02-13 05:23 ]
RCM | February 13, 05:12 CET
Pointy | February 13, 05:38 CET
When they say Dollhouse is on at 9:00 pm, does that mean Eastern time? I am on Pacific Standard. I just wanna make sure I don't miss it! (Yes, I am paranoid).
[ edited by ShanshuBugaboo on 2009-02-13 05:52 ]
ShanshuBugaboo | February 13, 05:51 CET
Dollhouse will be on at 9pm Eastern and Pacific - i.e. the Pacific time zone will see it three hours later, 9pm local time. Central and Mountain time zones will have it at 8pm, so it's on simultaneously in Central and Eastern with Mountain one hour delayed.
Rachelkachel | February 13, 06:08 CET
ShanshuBugaboo | February 13, 06:25 CET
[ edited by Yentroc on 2009-02-13 07:45 ]
Yentroc | February 13, 07:42 CET
The New York Times disappoints. Majorly. Without my having seen the first episode of Dollhouse, I doubt every word Stanley says after she denies Joss metaphorical richness. Give me a break. Other criticisms, okay. But this? Really?
What an annoying way to start the day. I think I may feel annoyed much today. What a shame.
phlebotinin | February 13, 13:04 CET
I'm stopping now. Such early morning slams put me in a foul, disheartened temper.
phlebotinin | February 13, 13:18 CET
Simon | February 13, 13:19 CET
phlebotinin | February 13, 13:28 CET
The reviewer thinks he's demeaning Joss by comparing him with David Lynch, Michael Mann and Quentin Tarantino, and the fact that a critic thinks that's an insult has been the funniest part of my week!
missb | February 13, 14:17 CET
In a post from his blog today, Ken Tucker at Entertainment Weekly has revised his original grade of "Dollhouse" upwards from a "B minus" to a "solid B." Among other things, he is backing away from his original worry about "no consistent hero to root for."
Interesting. He says that it's part of being a critic to sometimes doubt one's original judgement, as he is doing now about "Dollhouse."
Added: Maureen Ryan, aka "The Watcher" at the Chicago Tribune, sees the promise of "Dollhouse," albeit with caveats.
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2009-02-13 17:36 ]
phlebotinin | February 13, 17:01 CET
korkster | February 13, 18:37 CET
I do think, from the p.o.v of the reviews (though what effect that has on viewership, god knows) we're seeing one of the bad effects of Fox's interference in the way that Joss originally planned to break the larger season arc. By frontloading the season with standalone "procedurals" they left the reviewers without enough of the "Echo begins to fight for her identity" story to pick up on.
Still...I am a little amazed that the reviewers don't even mention (by and large) that this is the projected direction for the show. Is it simply that reviewers feel themselves bound to comment only on what they have actually seen (and not to trust the possibly false claims in the press package about the future direction of the show) or are they just being lazy?
snot monster from outer space | February 13, 18:47 CET
m'cookies actual | February 13, 21:52 CET
cabri | February 13, 22:27 CET
so far, i'm just glad they guaranteed joss the 13 episodes.
personally, i'm just trying to generate word-of-mouth.
do my part to promote it, cause we the fans, know the score,
if we like it, we may as well mention it, to our comic-book reading friends, to our girlfriends that watched alias, to the guys that want to watch hot babes throw down.
joss makes great tv, no question, and while it's not the most original premise ever, it's the most forward looking take on it, the pretender was too kung-fu/knight rider, my own worst enemy was run of the mill...
dollhouse is different, this is uncharted territory for him and tv, buffy and angel were about growing up (even if you're immortal) in a world that's scary and dangerous, and not really knowing which side your on, firefly is about what happens when the good guys lose, but dollhouse isn't just about people who're turned into robot cyphers for prophet, it's about being at that place in your late 20's/early 30's when you feel like you've completely screwed up despite the fact that you and you feel totally directionless, and what happens when you'll do anything drastic to escape that feeling in joss' universe. he has all my faith that he can make that interesting to viewers, i know, because i'm there right now, and that's part of the reason i need this show, that and I need my whedon fix, it's been a long time since serenity.
Mandrake Smile | February 14, 10:31 CET