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February 17 2009

(SPOILER) Preview for Dollhouse 1x02 "The Target". More than 3 Minutes of this Friday's new episode.

Huh. What I want to know is, "Why isn't Boyd/Topher getting some message about things going wrong, like they did in the first episode?" Does that mean the Client paid in advance for Echo to experience this extended terror? Evil! In a thought-provoking way!
Someone mentioned it in the comments, but I just want to reiterate here: What in the world were all those reports about Eliza not being able to pull it off on the acting front? More specifically, what the heck are up with some people saying that all she does is Faith in different clothes?! I mean, is she going to win an Oscar (yes, I know, Emmy is for TV, but Oscar feels more to the point... though I'll grant that this parenthetical is destroying that... anyway) for these three minutes? No. But did you see even an ounce of Faith there, because I sure didn't.
swanjun, how do you know they aren't? This is three minutes yanked out of a fifty-minute episode.

[ edited by The One True b!X on 2009-02-18 00:40 ]
That's true, b!X. And it looks like it might've been edited just to get all the "Echo runs around" parts.
Wow, they couldn't have got worse clips from the episode.
I like it. I have no clue on what's going on, but I get a bad feeling about it. I want to tune in to see how it goes, and I will undoubtedly be surprised by what *really* goes on.
Does anyone know if we'll get to see the original pilot as a different episode?
dunno about that, but I doubt it. They'll probably include it in a boxed set or something.

[ edited by Chris the Bloody on 2009-02-18 02:12 ]
Meh. That dude's not so tough.

*quietly hides*
It's weird not to see the scenes from the first trailer, there were a lot of great stuff there.
I just hope they put in something from the new Prodigy album :D (Omen!)at some point..

[ edited by Krusher on 2009-02-18 02:22 ]
So if they are doing a Deliverance episode, does that mean Eliza is Burt Reynolds? :)

I won't get into who is going to play Ned Beatty's character, but I am hoping it is not Eliza as well.

[ edited by Jaynes Hat on 2009-02-18 03:16 ]
Wait, Keesler sounding all MM like is the bad guy. Oh noes! Twil tarnish the memories!
Don't go inside the cabin in the woods!
"Why isn't Boyd/Topher getting some message about things going wrong, like they did in the first episode?"

In the pilot they know that the hostage negotiation is going to be a "high risk engagement" as Reed says. He follows that with "so we're going to need both eyes and ears" or something. Since this probably was supposed to be just a camping trip or whatever, I don't think they felt the need for the same security.

Just my guess though.
Off topic: what happened to the chat tab?
Man, who is in charge of picking the promo clips? These disjointed scenes don't make any sense and tell us nothing about the episode.
It's possible, ShanshuBugaboo. But the way Topher knew there was something wrong didn't appear (to me anyway) to have anything to do with seeing or hearing it; I think he was tapped into her physical responses (just like all the blue fear later on). One would imagine that they always have that sort of tap into the Actives, but I guess that's the sort of thing we'll find out along the way.
Can't wait. Thought that pilot was one of the strongest I've seen in a long time. It was fascinating how I started to forget Echo wasn't actually a recovering kidnap victim. That's when I realized the show's amazing potential for visceral and meaningful storytelling. Just... just awesome. And beautiful I might add. First Joss show we've had in High Def, right? Probably among his greatest directorial achievements to date. Congrats to the man.
Certainly a pleasure watching Eliza. I didn't see Faith in there either. I saw Eliza all grown up and kicking some Stanislavski ass.
Funny. I thought these scenes (in tandem with the earlier promo) tell everything about this episode. I'm sure there will some surprises but this seems pretty staightforward. The Middleman is one sick sonofabitch!
Meh... not getting this. The story seems to drag seriously even in the 'let's heighten the tension' moments. And that's some serious emotin' (actoring) going on when she sees the house. Here's hoping the episode itself plays better.
Very "Wrong Turn". That is all.
Clearly, this man's plan is sheer elegance in it's simplicity. :P
And that's some serious emotin' (actoring) going on when she sees the house.

I'm hopin' that's a "Oh you've got to be kidding me? A Cabin In The Woods?" look.
Yeah, taken out of context, this does pretty much nothing for me.
Thanks, gossi. I missed the sub-subtext there.
Oh, I might be wrong.
No, clearly you are right. That's why she looks back - to ensure that she hasn't run so far she made it onto Joss' other set!
In the next scene she walks on to a Firefly class transport set and starts to cry.
No, she won't cry because her current 'engagement' will be as an Inara-clone, a wholly consistent B story.
In the pilot they know that the hostage negotiation is going to be a "high risk engagement" as Reed says. He follows that with "so we're going to need both eyes and ears" or something. Since this probably was supposed to be just a camping trip or whatever, I don't think they felt the need for the same security.
That's a good point; I had forgotten that quote from the security dude. It did seem, though, as B!X added, that it was some alert from Echo's physical condition that tipped Topher off. Everything looked okay from Boyd's perspective, but physical responses were the key.
Without any other info, this is the extended version of date turned bad, helpless female victim running through the woods, tripping, falling down and whimpering. Having seen some other promo's I am assuming there is more to it and that she turns on him. he may hav e even paid for her to turn on him. That said, the promo seems to be promoting it as just the kind of thing that Buffy was a reaction against. I have such a bad feeling about this in so many ways.
I agree, newcj, this does look like the kind of helpless-female-victim stuff that Buffy was a reaction against. Considering that the "victim" here is our heroine and we know that she (1) lives, (2) is kind of kick-ass, and (3) is a Joss character, I think it's safe to expect that it will be a twist on the familiar story, just like Buffy was. (Though, I wouldn't be surprised if it makes it more of a gray area than Buffy did, implicating us as viewers in the bad side of things.)

[ edited by Septimus on 2009-02-18 17:53 ]
Newcj, that's part of the reason I think it's the worst possible clips. Also, they're boring.
Yay, it's The Middleman! Hope they packed some fresh milk.
I don't know The Middleman. Is it anything like The Most Dangerous Game?

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