Something not really related, but did anybody read the comic of Chaos Bleed and could explain me if it has some relation to the game?
I din't get it.

Brasilian Chaos Man | February 19, 16:22 CET

Though, Buffy-wise, I've only played Chaos Bleeds on my PS2, I've experienced the frustration of getting to a part in a game that is just too difficult for this middle-aged casual gamer, so the idea of being able to tweak settings sounds great to me!

Also digging the Link/Zelda mentions! Hy-rulez! ;)

m'cookies actual | February 19, 17:12 CET

Sorry, but the first Buffy game was vastly vastly superior to Chaos Bleeds for one simple reason. It nailed the combat. Chaos Bleeds broke the combat badly. The simple act of changing direction during a combo was absent rendering the vamp fights frustrating affairs of punching air.

The original game for all its faults, really captured the feel of a buffy fight scene. The first time I pulled off a triple vamp staking in that game, made me squeeeeee.

bivith | February 19, 17:39 CET

I completely and totally agree with bivith. Despite the second game adding the ever awesome Faith, it really fell apart. The first one was much, much better.

Haunt | February 19, 17:59 CET

Ooh, I really liked both games but in very different ways. I hated having to play as anyone other than Buffy or Faith in Chaos Bleeds. I repeatedly got stuck fighting Adam in Chaos Bleeds (I understood the thing with the barrels, but I just couldn't get the timing sorted out). The first Buffy game could be brutal hard, though, and I don't think I ever did finish it on any level other than Easy - so annoying!

Ildeth | February 19, 18:29 CET

The first BtVS game is hands down the better of the two. While it was fun being other people in Chaos Bleeds, it was just quantity vs quality. The first game had just Buffy but you could really hone a fighting style, then learn and improve. Like Bivith said, the first multiple staking in the BtVS game was awesome. Good times.

I mean, Faith fought pretty much exactly like Buffy so what's the point there, really? Spike fought just like Buffy and Faith only without the legwork. Xander had a bunch of weapons, which is fun for a little but I personally prefer the combat. Sid was amsusing, I'll give him that. Willow was the best change, as there was the whole spell business working there.

I think maybe if in Chaos Bleeds it focused on Buffy for the combat like in the first game, Xander with mild combat but more weapons and gadgets, then Willow with the magic they could have put more detail into just those three and cut the--sorry to say--unnecessary filler of the Spike and Faith characters.

Oh, and they could keep Sid. There wasn't much there, but he was amusing and different:)

Dhoffryn | February 19, 18:48 CET

Yeah. The second game had the 'awesome' factor of being able to play as other characters (Sid the Dummy!), but it was also infinitely more aggravating, either because of glitches or just flat-out bad design choices.

The first game was much more cohesive and enjoyable (i.e., I didn't yell at the screen as much).

QuanticoMVP | February 19, 19:08 CET

Legend of Zelda has been hiding hearts in stray clumps of grass for years -- don't be stingy!

I don't think having hearts strewn all over the place would be a good idea for a Buffy game. ;-)

OneTeV | February 19, 19:27 CET

And i who loved the difficulty of the first game, alas, my heart is now in San Fransisco.
A lot of games have tried a flexible curve but it kind of takes all the meaning out of a hard difficulty-level.

vaygr | February 19, 20:00 CET

But if this becomes successful all of this will be a moot point. Yay for easy level gamers such as me. http://kotaku.com/5127251/nintendo-patent-reveals-potential-paradigm-shift-in-design

ETA: ok I tried to make the link work but Im just not HTML friendly...

[ edited by chance on 2009-02-19 20:22 ]

chance | February 19, 20:22 CET

oh weird, we're talking Buffy games on Buffyfest today as well. Guess it's games day. I for one, loved both the original and Chaos Bleeds. The first one was harder, but playing Faith etc. was novel and fun.

I even have the original Buffy Gameboy Color game which kind of blew, but still...it's cool that they even had one.

buffyfest | February 19, 20:37 CET

I enjoyed Chaos Bleeds but I wanted what sold me on the game was the ability to be Joss. But I never figured out how to do that.

Butler | February 19, 21:07 CET

Can I ask a dumb ass question here?
I've just recently bought a wii for my six year old.
What buffy games can I play on it?
Is it just the chaos bleed gamecube game thats available?

strangeaction | February 19, 22:10 CET

Never played the video games, but did anyone else own the Buffy board game? That thing was soo confusing trying to figure out all the rules! My friend and I did manage to do it, though (she wasn't even a Buffy fan, not sure why she wanted to!) But it's hard to explain to new people each time.

fortunateizzi | February 19, 22:10 CET

Yes as far as I am aware.



I heard it was a nightmare to figure out. Were there two versions? For some reason I've got it into my head that there was a UK as well as a US version.



According to this FAQ, to get Joss or Chris Buchanan.



There's some great interview footage about the game over at the BBC Buffy website.

Simon | February 19, 22:24 CET

fortunateizzi: Thank the Lord (that I don't believe in). Someone else said it. I tried it with my sister, who likes Buffy but doesn't love it like I do. Neither one of us could figure the thing out! lol

I bought an Xbox game system FOR the Buffy games and I still play them (and Alias) on occasion. I love them all, but Chaos Bleeds is the best. Never finished the first one but my sister did. Alias is the easiest by far.

josswhedonaddict | February 19, 22:26 CET

Btw, there's some fun dialogue from Joss (some cute, funny, silly stuff toward the characters he created when he fights them) and the extras that you can open are pretty great.

josswhedonaddict | February 19, 22:30 CET

I thought the first game was better for one main reason: save points. If I remember correctly, in Chaos Bleeds, there were no save points in the level. You had to complete the whole level to save which was fine, except some of levels carried on for too long.

In the first one, I could play for a bit, get to a save point, then take a break.

AllShookDown | February 19, 23:41 CET

Oh yeah, I totally have the Buffy board game too! The Buffyfest crew plus a few others played it once and we decided to make our own rules (which included me going to the side of evil with the person playing The Master or something while the Scoobs got pissed off...much more fun that way!) I think there may have been drinking involved. Hee!

buffyfest | February 20, 01:10 CET

Oh yeah, I totally have the Buffy board game too! The Buffyfest crew plus a few others played it once and we decided to make our own rules (which included me going to the side of evil with the person playing The Master or something while the Scoobs got pissed off...much more fun that way!) I think there may have been drinking involved. Hee!

buffyfest | February 20, 01:10 CET

Yeah I agree the first game was much better. For a start you couldn't just stake a vamp in the leg to kill them like you could on Chaos Bleeds ;)

The fighting was so much better, it was brilliant in the first game but very boring and unoriginal in the second. The environment was so more appealing in the first game and fit the tone of Btvs far more, darker, more detailed ect. The vamps were a lot better and the story was far better.

I agree it was pretty useless having Buffy/Faith having exactly the same moves, what's the point!?

And I even preferred the first game’s “cheat code” that enabled “Arena Mode” and a second player taking control of the bad guys in the story mode/Arena Mode. They were far more entertaining than the arena style games in ‘Chaos Bleeds’ which were incredibly repetitive and useless.

vampmogs | February 20, 03:31 CET

I found an easy way to pass Chaos Bleeds. I passed the remote to my daughter.

My friend won't play the Buffy board game with me anymore. He gets frustrated when I try to make Spike 'good'.

redeem147 | February 20, 20:06 CET