February 24 2009
TV by the numbers has a system for figuring out what shows are likely to be cancelled and which are safe. T:SCC and Dollhouse are on the danger list, with T:SCC very likely to be cancelled, according to them.
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If DH were discontinued, it would be for another show that Fox thinks has more potential in its particular time slot.
Ronald_SF | February 24, 22:53 CET
Because in such a hypothetical scenario, I do wonder what effect that would have on both fandoms. Would 'T:SCC' fans boycott 'Dollhouse' purely to get back at FOX?
But in good news, more 'Bones'!
missb | February 24, 23:22 CET
aapac | February 25, 00:07 CET
On the other hand, I wonder what the "tail" is like on reality TV? Nonexistent, I would think...
jclemens | February 25, 00:08 CET
I would still be happier if they moved it to any other night. And I would be pissed as hell if they cancelled it without trying a shift to another night.
Ivalaine | February 25, 00:15 CET
Tv by the numbers seems to have live +7 as a category, but looking at the numbers, this seems to be DVR only, and many shows look to have another million or up to 4-5 million viewers on DVR.
I'm eagerly awaiting those +7 figures.
Ivalaine | February 25, 00:21 CET
When will the DVR numbers be released?
[ edited by Rhodey on 2009-02-25 09:32 ]
Rhodey | February 25, 00:29 CET
I think Ghost will add at least 1.5 million in viewers with DVR (when it comes out next week). TSCC should add at least 1 million. I also think Prison Break will do even worse in the 8pm timeslot than TSCC does. It will in no way be a better lead-in to Dollhouse. Less people will care enough to stay home on a Friday and watch Prison Break than TSCC and their ratings were very very similar last fall on Mondays with TSCC usually beating Prison Break once DVR +7 was added in.
IrrationaliTV | February 25, 00:31 CET
If your show is on the verge of cancellation, you don't do slow building a story gradually type episodes (I don't even know where they're going with the last one). Surely they have a plan for where the show is going. (I hope.) Knowing the situation they face this season, they should be accelerating everything and putting as much "stuff that happens" into each episode as possible. Since mid-season hiatus, I feel like their writing staff has given up.
Celluloid Novelist | February 25, 01:24 CET
flugufrelsarinn | February 25, 02:33 CET
cdm22 | February 25, 04:16 CET
Saje | February 25, 04:55 CET
rbt | February 25, 07:14 CET
It get the feeling the show is suffering from major internal politics as to which characters be featured. It's pretty obvious to me who the star of the show should be, and many in the marketing department seem to understand that as well from the way they promote it. But for whatever reasons, the writers/directors don't seem to want that. It's stupid, because aside from everything else Summer has going for her, sci-fi fans have a longstanding fascination with supposedly emotionless non-humans trying to live among us, be they Vulcans, androids, or robots (terminators included).
AlanD | February 25, 07:19 CET
I thought they were ending on a cliffhanger? I hope you're right, because the writing has definitely been on the wall (in blood). Don't piss off the remaining fans.
The last episode of TSCC was like attending a funeral
Heh.
hacksaway | February 25, 09:42 CET
IrrationaliTV | February 25, 10:19 CET
Along with this relationship, her monologues would get us inside her head as to what it feels like to stand between a future and an apocalypse, fearing that you might not be able to fulfill your mission.
T:TSCC had the monologues in Season 1, and personally I think they should have kept up with it. They allow us to have empathy for the character, who on the outside seems to be a ruthless cold militant bitca. Which is the point- hard on the outside, soft on the inside (like candy).
Not only do these monologues give us insight into Sarah, but the other characters as well (recall Sarah talking about the Terminator's relationship to John in T2). These are needed, because the characters don't communicate to each other.
They got rid of the monologues in Season 2, as well as split up our characters. Big mistake. Now, they have no real friction between each other, and we have no insight as to what's going on in their minds. Not only are the characters divided, but now the audience has no connection.
Focusing on Sarah and not having Sarah interact with her "team" (to me) is the downfall of the series. They've missed the point of why people love Sarah. Not only that, but by fearing that Sarah is taking over the show, and making her a "decorative lamp", you kill your only other reason to tune in. This can be said for Derek as well (who I loved when the introduced him in Season 1, and have missed since then).
korkster | February 25, 10:40 CET
I also miss the monologues, but the episode with Kyle Reese was one big monologue.
I'm ok with the show focusing on Sarah. I mean, it is named after her. But I also miss the episodes where it seemed that Cameron was actually trying to come to terms with being a robot. And I'd like to see John take a more proactive role in fighting Skynet. But I think some of that might be coming soon. (Hurry up!)
And although I don't have much hope for it's return, I'm still going to tune in each week.
NYPinTA | February 25, 11:12 CET
Little Green Kid | February 25, 12:55 CET
Well, reading the quote again it's actually a bit more ambiguous than I remember hacksaway but it does still mention "a logical conclusion" which doesn't immediately suggest cliff-hanger to me.
From here (possible mild spoilers in the complete interview):
Ideally he'll leave it open but with a proper resolution to at least some of the story threads. The writing's been on the wall for a while now re: renewal and to be honest, a cliff-hanger would feel almost disrespectful of the audience IMO (i'm actually not usually a big fan of cliff-hanger season finales anyway, I like the Buffy approach where every season is a complete story unto itself, as well as part of a larger ongoing serial).
Saje | February 25, 13:29 CET