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March 17
2009
Joss Whedon: Godfather of Sci-fi.
Article reviewing some of Joss's career so far.
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Pointy | March 17, 19:04 CET
I think the author has a very loose definition of red. There are a few characters in there that I would argue were blonde or brunette. For instance, I never thought of Tara as a redhead. She always seemed blonde (varying degrees of darkness, however.)
Whisper | March 17, 20:36 CET
Pointy | March 17, 20:48 CET
menomegirl | March 17, 21:03 CET
k8cre8 | March 17, 22:16 CET
I guess Dollhouse pretty much balances the scales, two straight-up sci-fi dramas and two mystical/fantasy dramas. Although 12 seasons in one case and half a season of each (so far) in the other genre's case.
Kris | March 17, 23:42 CET
Also didn't Joss want to disassociate himself from the final product of Alien Resurrection?
And wasn't in the case that Angel was cancelled due to some exec screwing up with contract renewals, rather than anything else?
Then we get onto the fact that the person writing this article never even saw Firefly!
Seems like a pretty poorly researched article to me. Then again maybe I'm wrong about everything. Of course I'm not a journalist and paid to research things.
dev | March 18, 01:50 CET
I think the moral of this story is, "Be careful drawing conclusions, they might well be a bit shallow". Without Ripley and Call the aliens would likely have made it to Earth and we'd all be incubating our very own bouncing bundle of face-hugger joy BUT Ripley[2] and Call are both very much the product of "messing" with nature - so the moral of the story to me is, "Messing with nature is dangerous BUT it's what we've always done AND there are rewards for doing so".
Bit slight all in all as a case for 'Godfather of sci-fi' (especially given that about half the examples aren't sci-fi to begin with) but in fairness it felt more like a blog post than an article, seen in that light it's easier to be more forgiving.
(and I liked jlv's 'Seeing Red' post too but even though it felt kind of jokey in tone, some are pretty thin - Glory, Tara, Amy, Eve ?? And maybe you could make a case for Adelle as 'auburn' but surely not red. Interesting idea though)
Saje | March 18, 03:52 CET
Blasphemy.
death is my gift | March 18, 06:59 CET
;-)
Pointy | March 18, 07:10 CET
DisChunk | March 18, 11:31 CET
DaisyButtercup | March 18, 13:53 CET
[ edited by Pointy on 2009-03-19 05:15 ]
Pointy | March 18, 21:14 CET
I agree it's a spectrum (heh, geddit ? Eh ? Spectrum ? ... i'll get my coat) but I still say Glory, Tara, Amy and Eve aren't on it at all and Adelle is only arguably at the very fringe (hey, it's a jlv post we're commenting on, a succession of bad puns just feels appropriate ;).
(the general thesis makes a lot of sense though because i've long thought that, given the choice, Joss would rather that all his characters be Scottish and a high incidence of red hair would be consistent with that entirely plausible, reasonable, even obvious scenario)
Saje | March 19, 04:20 CET
But that's true of all great artists, Saje, which is why the law does not give them the choice.
;-)
Furthermore:
1. Any definition of anything that excludes Olivia WIlliams is ipso facto invalid.
2. The worst of puns is the best of puns. G. K. Chesterton said that. About Charles Dickens. I do not equivoke-ate.
Pointy | March 19, 07:07 CET