Sorry, not paying for Dollhouse any time soon.

cronopiogal | April 02, 04:45 CET

cronopiogal,

Signing up for an email alert for the Dollhouse DVD doesn't cost anything. It also doesn't require you to buy it. Just sends you an email when it becomes available for pre-order.

I did pre-order the Castle DVD. Pretty good price too. Free shipping unless the price goes below $25.00.

Anonymous1 | April 02, 05:13 CET

I am liking Castle so much more than Dollhouse. But I don't need to own either one. Just can't afford much of anything right now.

madmolly | April 02, 06:24 CET

still, you can sign up and show support for DVD sales...
financial obligation = none.

"Dollhouse pre-sales demand in the millions!"
You can help that headline become true.

Wilhelm | April 02, 06:27 CET

Wilhelm,

That won't help. If they distribute "millions" of box sets and then fail to sell them, it makes the whole thing look more of a failure!

Bob D | April 02, 10:51 CET

Cronopiogal has already made clear that s/he would prefer if Dollhouse were cancelled, so I doubt contributing to positive press is much of an incentive.

Septimus | April 02, 14:44 CET

It's sad to see people telling themselves they like Castle, which is a terrible show, just because they love Nathan Fillion. Hold out for something better than a contrived procedural with incredibly annoying characters.

stphjay | April 02, 16:46 CET

It's sad to see people looking down on others for liking a show, just because they don't like it.

Chewy | April 02, 17:34 CET

Chewy-
I couldn't agree with you more. So many negative all around lately. I guess you can't please everyone.......

Spacegirl3200 | April 02, 19:25 CET

I'm not just looking down on people who like the show. I'm looking down on the people who make it, too. :) Nathan Fillion is lovely but he doesn't seem to be very good at picking tv projects that don't suck.

stphjay | April 02, 21:46 CET

*shrugs* I'm loving it as tv comfort food, and I'm not ashamed of that. I actually think the central 4/5 characters are written better than most on tv, but eh. Each to their own.

You know, I might even manage to buy dvds of both Castle and Dollhouse. Shock horror! Surely I am too dichotomous to exist...

skittledog | April 02, 22:33 CET

I'd certainly consider buying it on Blu-ray (and I'd definitely buy Dollhouse on Blu-ray)...

...I just have a hard time buying something on SD DVD after I watch it in HD...

AmnesiaInnocent | April 02, 22:33 CET

You know, I might even manage to buy dvds of both Castle and Dollhouse. Shock horror! Surely I am too dichotomous to exist...

Whatever you do, don't ship them together!

Sunfire | April 02, 22:37 CET

I don't find any of the characters on Castle annoying. I like most of them quite a lot.
Up until the most recent episode of Dollhouse, I found most of its characters pretty unlikable, though. I'm glad I stuck with it, despite that.

poisonyoulove | April 02, 23:58 CET

stpjhay sez:

Yeah, Firefly so totally sucked.

But seriously, with the exception of A++ listers like George Clooney and Julia Roberts, I think the idea of actors "choosing" their projects is a little bit of an illusion. As is the smart thing to do in any sort of career, you choose from the range of options available to you those things that will (1) allow you to eat and put a roof over your head, and (2) help you build skills and resources that will enable you to further expand your range of professional options in the future. If the only thing an actor building their career will allow themself to be seen in is a project that is sure to earn zillions of dollars and boatloads of awards, then that is an actor who isn't likely to get seen much at all.

BrewBunny | April 02, 23:58 CET

Amen BrewBunny, I couldn't have said it better myself.

I think at times it's easily forgotten that working actors have to...you know....actually work.

I am a big fan of Nathan's but not so much of Desperate Housewives. I actually couldn't really bring myself to watch it, even for him but I certainly wasn't going to begrudge him the chance to be on a mainstream popular show that was only going to help raise his profile just because it's not my thing.

DaisyButtercup | April 03, 00:24 CET

You guys like Joss Whedon!?

How dare you. He's such a hack....

oh wait. ;)

BrownCoat_Tabz | April 03, 00:51 CET

BrownCoat_Tabz, Please see yesterday's discussion about the need to garnish our Winking Smiley Faces. Don't know yet if the policy has made it into the Whedonesque Terms of Service ...

BrewBunny | April 03, 01:38 CET

;)

korkster | April 03, 02:47 CET

And I did not say that I didn't like Dollhouse. I watch it every week. Most of the characters are intriguing. But as much as I was a big fan of Faith, I am not a big fan of Echo. Not sure what it is that bugs me about her. But I do love Nathan and will watch whatever he's in to show support. I do love the genius that is Joss and will watch whatever he makes to show my support. But I don't have to love everything he does.

madmolly | April 03, 02:55 CET

Castle is on pre-order. So don't pre-order unless you intend to keep the order. Amazon gaurantees the lowest price. Worked great with Dr. Horrible.

Dollhouse is on email alert. Signing up for email alert on Dollhouse is just that signing up for an email alert. It is not an obligation to buy. It shows interest...you want Amazon to notify you when available for pre-ordering.

Anonymous1 | April 03, 03:50 CET

I think it has been made clear plenty of times that we can be a fan of Joss Whedon not be in "love" everything that he does. I get that so does everyone else. Same goes with all the Nathan fans & other Whedonverse actors....

It's all the "can't wait for the show to get canceled" & "it's total crap" or "he/she is annoying on that show" I am growing tired of reading the lazy criticism of Dollhouse, Castle, T:SCC & Chuck. If folks are going to complain on a message board, why not have it be constructive? Or is that asking too much?

Spacegirl3200 | April 03, 04:58 CET

I was talking about Drive and Castle, not Firefly.

How can people not find the Mother on Castle annoying?

stphjay | April 03, 05:19 CET

There's that word again!!!

I rest my case......

[ edited by Spacegirl3200 on 2009-04-03 05:28 ]

Spacegirl3200 | April 03, 05:27 CET

stphjay,

The mother is supposed to be annoying. Castle finds her annoying too. You know there are real mothers out there just like her. I think it is supposed to help us understand why Castle is the way he is.

Anonymous1 | April 03, 05:45 CET

To be honest, she does annoy me. But then I was pleasantly surprised how much I liked (and believed) the character of his daughter, so as far as his family goes I'm taking it as a zero sum game. There are always a few characters in any show that annoy me (Firefly is currently the only exception I can think of), so it's not like that's going to stop me watching.

And.... we're garnishing now? I missed that memo. ;*)

(Star anise.)

skittledog | April 03, 08:30 CET

Heh, nice one ;).

There are always a few characters in any show that annoy me (Firefly is currently the only exception I can think of), so it's not like that's going to stop me watching.

Especially when, as mentioned above, the character is clearly meant to be annoying.

For me the show's not awful by any stretch, I enjoy watching it mainly because Nathan's just incredibly entertaining to watch and it does what it does quite well it's just that what it does has largely been done before. The daughter's clever, mature and self-aware beyond her years in the mold of e.g. "Dawson's Creek" for instance. Annoying mothers, vindictive ex-wives, chalk and cheese partners with a will they/won't they sexual tension - not exactly brand new on the face of the Earth.

Apart from that, small gripes. After the pilot they've clearly had a note about what Beckett wears since she's gone from professional, conservative attire to looking like she stepped out of Cosmo (always wearing something colourful, generally more figure hugging). And they've very quickly dropped or at least stopped emphasising) one of the more interesting character traits of Castle IMO, this idea that he was actually a bit of a callous bastard, seemed almost to see people as characters in a story. Now apart from being a bit smug and a wise-ass he's likeable in the extreme.

The show's regressing to the mean in other words, shaving off its own more interesting edges.

Saje | April 03, 09:55 CET

This is how I see it.

Dollhouse is a show that I look forward to all week, anticipating what's going to happen. For me, it's just the right amount of bang to start off the weekend.

Castle is the comfort you curl up with when you realize that the weekend is over. Mondays are most dreaded for me, always bogged down with some sort of work or negativity... so Castle is the "hey, it's not that bad" light humor to cheer ya up.

korkster | April 03, 16:31 CET

Frankly, I'm kind of ... eh on both shows right now. They both have things about them that don't work for me, but because they both involve creative people whose work I dig, I'll keep them in my Tivo season pass for now. It's not uncommon for shows to be weak out of the gate and then season into kickass entertainment, so when I trust the team behind it, I'll give them some time.

But honestly, they're going to have to work hard to catch up with The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency, which is kicking ass right from the start. Love, love, love that show!

BrewBunny | April 03, 17:25 CET

As Simon Mayo puts its, "preorder is a stupid word." You either buy something, or you order it. If its not in store, you have still just ordered it.

Hunted | April 03, 18:25 CET