April 14 2009
Ausiello: Fox will not be renewing 'Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles'.
This news comes as no surprise.
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Polter-Cow | April 14, 21:26 CET
Desilu | April 14, 21:28 CET
SteveJ2008 | April 14, 21:30 CET
*sadface*
Dizzy | April 14, 21:32 CET
zz9 | April 14, 21:32 CET
Any chance we'll hear about Dollhouse before upfronts?
J.I.G. | April 14, 21:34 CET
Assuming it's cancelled I kinda hope Summer doesn't end up on '24' cos i've pretty much stopped watching that but whatever she ends up on I hope she's near the centre of the action, that woman can act (when I get the second season DVDs of T:TSCC i've a feeling there're gonna be a lot of subtle little things that I missed in her performance and either way it'll be cool to appreciate the things I didn't - could anyone but a professional dancer make Cameron's not quite human walk work so effectively for instance ?).
Saje | April 14, 21:34 CET
Chewy | April 14, 21:39 CET
scotws | April 14, 21:39 CET
Shelly | April 14, 21:39 CET
*ding ding ding ding ding* Sorry, I couldn't resist ;).
zeitgeist | April 14, 21:41 CET
Not yet it isn't.
Simon | April 14, 21:44 CET
SteveJ2008 | April 14, 21:47 CET
will.bueche | April 14, 21:47 CET
I gave my husband T:SCC season one for his birthday yesterday. He had lost track when they started switching the nights around and never got back into it. I figure even if he doesn't enjoy the rest of the season, it has Summer's dance audition as an extra...
I feel bad for all the fans, even though it never appealed to me.
redeem147 | April 14, 21:48 CET
It is rather annoying to know 90210 somehow is getting renewed, while worthwhile shows continue to get lucky if they even make it through season one, let alone a second season.
didifallasleep | April 14, 21:52 CET
ChromeShark | April 14, 21:56 CET
"Prison Break" has a Whedonesque link: Wentworth Miller (from Buffy's "Go Fish"). I was thinking that "Prison Break" should have had a cross-over with the last Terminator episode, since Summer's character opened all those prison doors.
OneTeV | April 14, 21:57 CET
Haunt | April 14, 21:58 CET
zeitgeist | April 14, 22:02 CET
I'll be incredibly saddened to see the demise of one of my favourite shows. :(
spike_lover | April 14, 22:09 CET
dreamlogic | April 14, 22:11 CET
QueenBee | April 14, 22:12 CET
ShanshuBugaboo | April 14, 22:13 CET
[ edited by gossi on 2009-04-14 22:15 ]
[ edited by gossi on 2009-04-14 22:16 ]
gossi | April 14, 22:14 CET
badwolf | April 14, 22:16 CET
'The Fox network is just a step away from shaking up its Friday lineup for the 2009-10 season, canning one show and considering a move to a new night for a second.'
So if TSCC really has been cancelled, could this mean a renewal for Dollhouse?
Sort of a good news/bad news scenario.
Progressive_Stupidity | April 14, 22:23 CET
As I mentioned at the time on Dollverse (in a round about way), they kicked T:TSCC to the curb and were looking at moving Dollhouse to another night. The Friday Night Sci-Fi idea has been officially abandoned for fall/mid-season within FOX.
[ edited by gossi on 2009-04-14 22:24 ]
gossi | April 14, 22:23 CET
Pure speculation here... If Dollhouse somehow manages to get renewed, do you think that might create bad blood between the two fandoms? Obviously, there's a lot of overlap between the two, but wasn't there some animosity between the Dark Angel and Firefly fandoms, when Firefly was originally ordered?
Knuckleball | April 14, 22:28 CET
gossi | April 14, 22:31 CET
That hasn't been decided. I'm choosing to believe we'll see a second season of Dollhouse.
Nebula1400 | April 14, 22:35 CET
zeitgeist | April 14, 22:35 CET
Jobo | April 14, 22:39 CET
Suzie | April 14, 22:42 CET
I know the ratings weren't there but it is so very frustrating that such a good show got canceled (though the first few second half of second season episodes weren't doing it for me, the last two were really good and its still way better than the majority of TV shows).
OTT Fan Complaint: My only hope is somehow Terminator will have sated the Fox exec's hunger of canceling good shows, allowing Dollhouse to survive. /OTT Fan complaint
SteppeMerc | April 14, 22:44 CET
[ edited by zeitgeist on 2009-04-14 22:51 ]
zeitgeist | April 14, 22:48 CET
BlueSkies | April 14, 22:53 CET
So guys, do we start mailing Lego Bionicles to Fox in order to pester them into reviving The Sarah Connor Chronicles?
Inara's Spongebath | April 14, 22:55 CET
I'm not a TSCC fan--I watched the first five episodes, and it just wasn't my thing--but I can't take any sort of joy in the cancellation of a show. I just think of the poor fanbase (which, from what I understand, is still clinging desperately to hope--so familiar).
Jobo | April 14, 22:56 CET
Like a million other people have said - Summer should join Dollhouse ! :)
a little pez witch | April 14, 22:56 CET
zeitgeist | April 14, 22:57 CET
Simon | April 14, 22:57 CET
SteppeMerc | April 14, 23:02 CET
jclemens | April 14, 23:02 CET
I only ever saw like the first two or three ep's of ses. 1 when it was shown here, but just wasn't my thing.
Maybe if it's ever re-run or I get the DVD. Who knows. XD
But yeah, that still kinda sucks for the fans of the show and the actors and everybody. :(
druzilla | April 14, 23:03 CET
hitnrun017 | April 14, 23:09 CET
[ edited by Dizzy on 2009-04-14 23:16 ]
Dizzy | April 14, 23:14 CET
I will have to Netflix it at some point. If the series finale was really better than Dollhouse #9, it sounds like it's worth seeing.
jkalderash | April 14, 23:15 CET
palehorse | April 14, 23:26 CET
silent knight | April 14, 23:57 CET
Nice finale though. I really liked how it ended. (Just too bad it is the end.)
NYPinTA | April 15, 00:02 CET
Time for Ausiello's semi-annual SCC termination report. False again. (Remember "sets were destroyed" report? Now you know context, people).
Bob D | April 15, 00:06 CET
As for the calm and rational acceptance that FOX shouldn't be expected to support an expensive series that is not finding an audience...? Well that may be, but such rationalizations will hardly ease the pain when (and yes I'm saying WHEN, not IF) Dollhouse gets cancelled. This is what FOX does. They make a good show at being genre friendly but fail to properly promote and support such shows, constantly shift and reschedule them (just to make sure they CAN'T find an audience), give endless "notes" to the series creators, and ultimately cancel shows prematurely. All presumably to make room on the schedule for the next wave of "genre friendly" programming which will repeat the cycle.
Yeah, sorry. Nothing even remotely approaching sympathy or understanding for FOX in any way.
Haunt | April 15, 00:43 CET
xerox | April 15, 00:44 CET
Hopfully season 2 gets a DVD release.I assume it will.
ChromeShark,T:SCC and Salvation aren't connected continuity wise.T:SCC ignores Terminator 3 and the new film.
Buffyfantic | April 15, 00:55 CET
[ edited by gossi on 2009-04-15 01:01 ]
gossi | April 15, 01:01 CET
I don't see why the network couldn't give it a mini-season (or maybe a big two-hour send off episode to coincide with Salvation). I hate holding a grudge against FOX but one can only be burned so many times...
Intrepid Reporter | April 15, 01:14 CET
Harmalicious | April 15, 01:37 CET
CarpeNoctem | April 15, 01:54 CET
Lunakitty | April 15, 03:14 CET
On a happy note, the one thing about this show that's gotten consistently good press has been . . . Summer! So hopefully that means people will be eager to snatch her up for other projects as soon as she's officially free.
erendis | April 15, 03:29 CET
Haunt | April 15, 03:34 CET
Animal Mother | April 15, 03:37 CET
and you wonder whyand you know definitively why you're yanking it.HBO? Sci-Fi Channel, TNT?
Tonya J | April 15, 03:42 CET
Revolver | April 15, 04:45 CET
Even if its only for another half season. But if we can keep both I want both :)
RheaM | April 15, 05:07 CET
Pointy | April 15, 05:16 CET
Whoa whoa whoa. Do you mean Joshua Malina? Was he in the last episode?
Whoamg I just checked his IMDb and he was. Okay, TSCC, you've earned a second chance. I'll be watching you soon. Look out.
Jobo | April 15, 05:24 CET
"The future, always in motion" and you do know that Jayneway totally messed up the timeline right. T3 has not happened yet nor Terminator: Salvation.
Stay tuned for Terminator: The Beginning. Where John Conner with the help of a liquid terminator, Skynet's good brother, a girl and her dog, John's future father and uncle build the original time machine. Or maybe Skynet (the evil brother) builds it and team Connor takes it. Also there is a warehouse full of Cameron terminator models somewhere in there and John Henry has the Cameron chip.
Really it all fits together. Because how could a terminator go back to kill John Connor who was the son of a future time traveler. Paradox. Stupid Jayneway.
[ edited by Anonymous1 on 2009-04-15 05:34 ]
Anonymous1 | April 15, 05:29 CET
Harmalicious | April 15, 05:33 CET
Yeah, sorry. Spelling (and ability to edit) fail.
Joshua Malina is totally my TV boyfriend. Loved him in Sports Night and West Wing.
I'm a fan as well. He has some great dialogue in the final Terminator ep. Plays hardball with Sarah Connor and manages to walk away without a pen in his kneecap. No mean feat.
Revolver | April 15, 05:56 CET
btw, re: Dark Angel: the show was announced as renewed in some trade paper a couple of days before the final announcement by FOX about the following fall season, but then wasn't. As far as anyone could tell (including people on the writing staff, they talk about it in some of the extras on the DVDs) it was a last minute decision. By that point FOX already had one (expensive) sci-fi show coming up (Firefly) and at the time it was said to have been a factor.
Mostly, DA's second season had declining ratings: the network meddled (surprise), the show was sort of retooled, inserting more fantasy elements with a bit less enphasis on "The USA is now a third world country after a terrorist attack blew all the computers, the government is bad and corrupted" (9/11 had just happened) and, guess what, moved to Friday nights. The ratings went down accordingly. After all was said and done, James Cameron went on record calling the FOX executives a "bunch of wankers".
nyrk | April 15, 06:26 CET
RheaM | April 15, 07:06 CET
John T. Folden | April 15, 07:33 CET
korkster | April 15, 08:28 CET
Eerikki | April 15, 08:59 CET
And I want to see BAG in something else soon.
Caroline | April 15, 09:22 CET
Yeah I haven't seen it mentioned much but it really was - it was haunting and evocative but also worked in action scenes and it had a whiff of Brad Fiedel's awesome score but without being a carbon copy.
T:TSCC was uneven, moreso in the second season so I must admit I can understand both cancellation and people not watching (though I don't like either) but it was a sci-fi action series that, at least twice, actually dared to become art IMO. Once with the swimming pool scene in season 1 and once in a brilliant scene between Cameron and John in the season finale (which I won't spoil).
If it's gone i'll miss it.
Saje | April 15, 09:47 CET
Sad news.
SmileTime | April 15, 09:59 CET
I guess I was hoping against hope for a renewal though.
NuVanessa | April 15, 14:32 CET
doghouse | April 15, 14:38 CET
zeitgeist | April 15, 14:48 CET
Oh good call, how could I forget Summer dancing ? Agreed, lovely moment.
Saje | April 15, 15:14 CET
I was quite fond of Cameron's "I love You"-moment in the season 2 opener and "Allison from Palmdale" and "The Tower is Tall but the Fall is short" are two very good hours of TV. There was some bad stuff along the way (for instance, I really didn't get much out of the "Sarah is crazy... or is she?"-trilogy when they moved to Friday, but ever since the Jimmy Carter-two parter, things started to click together. And now I miss a show that I have never really loved along the way. Crazy feeling.
wiesengrund | April 15, 15:55 CET
brinderwalt | April 15, 16:19 CET
Now that's not to say that T:TSCC won't be cancelled — I think it has very little chance of getting a third season. But it does rather bring into question just how reliable this Ausiello article is, as it quotes an unnamed source "close to the show" as saying that "Everyone has pretty much known for a couple of weeks."
I say wait for May 18th. Not because T:TSCC's chances are being underrated, but just because this article smells like unsubstantiated gossip to me now (and yes I do realise that Ausiello is a generally reliable and reputable source, but he isn't infallible).
dzr | April 15, 17:37 CET
Is it OK to insult Fox, if I leave the (assumed) humans running it out of the insult?
The only thing that will assuage my Fox hate now, is a full, untampered-with second season of Dollhouse.
RIP, T:TSCC. :(
Shey | April 17, 12:19 CET