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April 17 2009

(SPOILER) E!'s Kristin Talks to Dollhouse Cast at PaleyFest. Spoilers and Spoilers and Spoilers galore! Don't say I didn't warn you, not super happy I read it.

edcsLover9 | Dollhouse | 19:04 CET | 28 comments total | tags: dollhouse

I'm forcing myself not to read it! But I'll bookmark it anyway. ;)

J.I.G. | April 17, 19:09 CET

How spoilerish? Really spoilerish or predictable spoilerish?

Rikardo | April 17, 19:15 CET

Note - the thread may contain spoilers. 'Cos, posts.

gossi | April 17, 19:16 CET

Cant see it.

Darkness | April 17, 19:18 CET

I didn't think it was too spoilerish. There are some spoilers but not crazy omg we need a bigger boat spoilers.

wilder | April 17, 19:21 CET

There are minor character/relationship spoilers, no plot spoilers. It's really just the actors talking about their characters.

Invisible Green | April 17, 19:21 CET

There always seems to be a problem accessing an E! Online link from outside the States.

If you're in the UK like me, try this link.

Simon | April 17, 19:21 CET

E!'s website still doesn't work from the UK, if anybody is wondering. It's been broken here for almost a year and they still haven't noticed.

That said, I just read it. I don't think it's particularly spoilery, to be honest. I mean, it has upcoming episode stuff and character moments, but no huge reveals.

gossi | April 17, 19:21 CET

No, I would sy there are some significant spoilers, like the fact that someone hires someone in the next episode (and who those someones are, and what the hiring is for).

[ edited by Septimus on 2009-04-17 19:25 ]

Septimus | April 17, 19:23 CET

Yeah there's some more spoilery spoilers in there.

Sunfire | April 17, 19:27 CET

I have a bookmark folder dedicated to Dollhouse spoilers. Can't wait until the season's over so I can start reading them. Not that I want the season to be over. I just mean I can't wait to read them when they're no longer spoilers. And then I'll start a folder for season 2 spoilers, and so it starts all over again.

Yes, I'm optimic.

electricspacegirl | April 17, 20:52 CET

About Mellie and Paul beeing doomed, well it's a Joss show after all.

Evil Joss.

BTW it's the first time ever from outside the US (Holland here) I can access the site without problems..

[ edited by Krusher on 2009-04-17 20:58 ]

Krusher | April 17, 20:56 CET

Dichen and Fran look SO hot out-of-character. I like the idea of learning more about Topher's motives, his personal life, etc. As with Adelle and Laurence, I think it's importance to really humanize the "evil" officials of the Dollhouse.

4 Edits: Mostly failures.

[ edited by Liam Mars on 2009-04-17 21:54 and 2009-04-17 21:54 ] in an attempt to master spoiler tags.

[ edited by Liam Mars on 2009-04-17 21:56 ]

Liam Mars | April 17, 21:12 CET

@Krusher

I've always gotten a kick out of the fact that the concept of the Dollhouse lets Joss essentially create and kill a female character every week.

theMaC | April 17, 21:26 CET

Spoilery spoilers wrapped in felted non-spoilers.

korkster | April 17, 21:36 CET

I'd like to know more about Topher's motives and his personal life, because I still don't feel any sympathy for or even like his character.

Too bad we're not going to see any more Sierra/Victor though!

I can't imagine Boyd saying: 'Sierra hasn't been active for a while, why don't you use her?' That's very unlike Boyd...

I think Topher and Dr. Saunders may have some connection to each other we don't know about yet... I'm curious to find out!

[ edited by J.I.G. on 2009-04-17 21:50 ]

J.I.G. | April 17, 21:49 CET

I've always gotten a kick out of the fact that the concept of the Dollhouse lets Joss essentially create and kill a female character every week.

Yeah, because nothing is more amusing than dead chicks.

BrewBunny | April 17, 22:14 CET

Spoilery spoilers wrapped in felted non-spoilers.

Ah, but what about non-spoilery spoilers? Those definitely exist for me personally as a definition, but I think they are probably a totally useless thing for discussion since everyone seems to have a different Spoiler Tolerance Threshold.

Sunfire | April 17, 22:24 CET

Holy Spoiler Batman!!! I should not have read this!!!! I so doing so well with not being spoiled with Dollhouse stuff but this two weeks off was killing me. And right before tonight's episode? Grrr me!

On to talking about the spoiler though. I was wondering what was damn special about Echo, other than the fact that she glitches. I can't wait to find out, and I wish we culd see Nolan get his ass handed to him. I wouldn't mind legalizing water-boarding for him.

luv4whedon | April 17, 22:37 CET

Back in the old days, we'd be reading transcripts of the episodes before weeks if not months before they aired. Guess Mutant Enemy can now afford locks on their internal mailboxes.

Simon | April 17, 22:38 CET

Yeah, because nothing is more amusing than dead chicks.

Somehow that comment just made it so.

didifallasleep | April 17, 22:41 CET

Mailbox locks are so 2005. I'm sure they just made it clear that any interns caught trying to smuggle scripts out would be sent for a treatment.

Sunfire | April 17, 22:46 CET

Back in the old days, we'd be reading transcripts of the episodes before weeks if not months before they aired. Guess Mutant Enemy can now afford locks on their internal mailboxes.

Those were much, much worse days. And TV fandoms are made dumber, more juvenile, and less generous (because less receptive to surprise) by spoilers.

We definitely need a thread dedicated solely to measuring the precise immaturity and lack of willpower required to read wild feed transcripts instead of waiting 20 hours and watching the goddamn episodes.

And yes, this is in part self-directed: I was the worst among my friends, and as much as my hints made things irritating for them, I completely screwed myself out of peak aesthetic experiences by reading spoilers. No matter how much people pretend it's not the case.

And what am I doing in this thread? Desperately trying not peek.

waxbanks | April 18, 00:33 CET

remember everybody no new Dollhouse episode tonight.

RheaM | April 18, 00:44 CET

I knew something was going on between Topher and Claire. Someone said on a forum that it's too obvious of a pairing, and then no one wanted to discuss it any further.

I don't have to think hard to see Boyd suggesting that Topher use Sierra. I think Boyd probably has a good analysis of Topher's character by now, and would see it coming if Topher wanted to do anything hideously inappropriate.

I wouldn't assume that there won't be anymore going on with Victor and Sierra. The absence of new developments doesn't necessarily mean that the story will drop off completely.

I was surprised at first by the quote about Paul and November, but the basis for their relationship has already been made kind of obvious.

sarahi | April 18, 00:44 CET

Am I that spoiled that I didn't see any spoilers in there?

Ah, but what about non-spoilery spoilers? Those definitely exist for me personally as a definition, but I think they are probably a totally useless thing for discussion since everyone seems to have a different Spoiler Tolerance Threshold.

I think non-spoilery spoilers would be the twine that holds the non-spoiler-felted spoilery-spoilers together.

Well, regarding personal life... I can't wait to see Topher shop for groceries!

korkster | April 18, 01:48 CET

Oh yes, the wildfeeds. I'd forgotten. I read them nearly every time. In retrospect it looks ridiculous that I couldn't wait twenty hours.

Then again, I still read the Dollhouse threads as new episodes air on the East Coast (I'm in LA). Those are more fun though, because everyone goes "OMG! What a twist!" leaving me thinking "What twist! Argh! How can I wait anothe rtwo hours to find out?"

bonzob | April 18, 02:00 CET

I'm very intrigued by the prospect of Topher/Claire. It seems to be the relationship that would serve Topher's character best, what with her moral superiority and his persisting attraction to her. I also love what we've seen of Paul/"Mellie" so far.

Enisy | April 18, 12:48 CET

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