Tater Tops 2009: What's the Best New Show?
"Dollhouse" is an option on the E! Online ballot.
Also on the ballot with Whedon ties are "Castle" and "Fringe."
June 13 2009
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svt121 | June 13, 15:53 CET
cabri | June 13, 16:06 CET
Dollhouse, thus far, has failed to meet my expectations for how good a show I think it can be.
Castle, on the other hand, met or exceeded my expectations from the get-go.
Therefore: Castle.
brinderwalt | June 13, 16:25 CET
brinderwalt, I agree that Dollhouse didn't meet my expectations (at first) and Castle exceeded them (based pretty much completely on Fillion's work). But then: my expectations for Dollhouse were sky-high, while for Castle - just another procedural - they were very low. As far as I'm concerned, Dollhouse easily beats Castle in terms of simple quality of writing and story, which is what made me pick Dollhouse without much hesitation at all.
GVH | June 13, 16:30 CET
http://au.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/index.html
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zillah | June 13, 16:33 CET
I don't believe Summer's poll ever got posted, but she's winning anyway.
hacksaway | June 13, 16:48 CET
When I see a generic "which one is best" question like this one, I consider it to be a judgment about which show made the best use of its available resources (actors, sets, story, etc.) as a whole. Yes Dollhouse is written on a higher artistic level and employs the serial format (as of episode 6 anyway), but both these factors are questions of taste and not a reflection of superior quality.
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brinderwalt | June 13, 17:53 CET
twinkiefoo | June 13, 19:59 CET
Nebula1400 | June 13, 22:25 CET
So my vote goes to Dollhouse w/ only the qualms that I haven't seen the other nominated shows.
dottikin | June 13, 22:28 CET
snowinhell | June 13, 23:42 CET
brinderwalt, I'm not looking actually to go into the whole 'what constitutes quality fiction'/'can we judge fiction with anything approaching objectivism' debate we have here from time to time, but for the record: I disagree with that. I don't think that's completely a matter of taste. Sure, taste always figures into it ("it" being art appreciation), but I do believe there's gounds on which to show that Dollhouse is written not just with a different goal in mind (more artistic and complex), but also, by some form of consensus on how to judge fiction, "better".
ETR: typos
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GVH | June 14, 02:53 CET
The certainty with which the experts detect the liars is too extreme and difficult to credit as a real world science thing, and all the plots hinge on that one ability. However, Tim Roth's performance is just mesmerizing; he makes it and everything else believable. He's really something else.
ETA semicolon, because I am a freak.
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toast | June 14, 02:58 CET
LOL. I know that feeling. ;)
brinderwalt | June 14, 06:26 CET
It did better in meeting my expectations than Dollhouse did, but that's only because there weren't really any and I had incredibly high hopes for Dollhouse.
Anyway, slim pickings (though that's mostly because I don't know most shows on the list), which made choosing Dollhouse really easy. Maybe if Sit down, shut up wasn't canned just when it was getting better, it could have given Dollhouse some competition or (if I'm not mistaken and this is about the whole tv-season) the inclusion of True Blood on the list would have made the choise more difficult.
the Groosalugg | June 14, 06:47 CET
redeem147 | June 14, 06:51 CET
TDBrown | June 14, 08:59 CET
It took me a while to really enjoy Fringe. But the more messed up the show got the more my apprecitation grew.
And no need to go on about Dollhouse as everything there is to say about the show's been said.
I think of the 3 Fringe had the strongest whole year but its a little unfair as BOT only had 6 episodes so far (or was it 7) Dollhouse has had 12 while Fringe got 20. Fringe hasn't gotten anywhere nearly as deep as Dollhouse though.
I voted for Dollhouse but it may have been more honest if I had voted for Fringe, maybe not. I did let Fringe build up and my DVR for a while and I never waited longer than a day after Dollhouse aired before I watched it. And the 1 day wait, the one time was cause I got home from work late and only had enough in me for BSG and Terminator, and Dollhouse was way #3 to those 2.
theMidnighter | June 14, 14:02 CET
Maybe, but not the distinction that the one show is a procedural and the other is a serial, because down that train of thought lies error. MUWAHAHAHAHA...NARF!
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brinderwalt | June 14, 15:30 CET
edcsLover9 | June 14, 16:22 CET
NF is fine but I too don't think he's anything truly special.
vampmogs | June 14, 18:49 CET
FaithsTruCalling | June 14, 20:47 CET
katetwo | June 14, 21:01 CET