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June 14
2009
What TV Shows Should Be Animated To Stay Alive?
io9 gets to thinking about which SF shows could use a little animated spell to get healthy again.
Firefly gets discussed as well as
The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
brinderwalt
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| tags: io9, tscc, serenity, firefly
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brinderwalt | June 14, 03:41 CET
ShanshuBugaboo | June 14, 03:45 CET
Taaroko | June 14, 03:55 CET
ShanshuBugaboo | June 14, 04:18 CET
Perfect for Adult Swim, eh? EH? come on, you know you want it... ;)
BrokenThread | June 14, 04:19 CET
So I'm not the only one who's wanted that since the first installment came out.
The One True b!X | June 14, 04:30 CET
EDIT: And possibly Dr. Horrible, but they did such a good job with it live action that it'd be a shame to watch it continue on only in cartoon form.
[ edited by archon on 2009-06-14 04:54 ]
archon | June 14, 04:53 CET
vampmogs | June 14, 05:18 CET
They could pair it with Glee next season.
Fray was so good in comic form I'd almost be afraid to mess with it, but I know a lotta folks would love to have a DVD to put on their shelf alongside their Buffy & Angel sets. It would be interesting to hear who they cast after already establishing voices in my head already and for so many years.
I know the Buffy ship has probably sailed, but I'm still curious what would have resulted from The Animated Series that was planned, with Mutant Enemy writers, most of the original cast, and done as the highschool years with how the gang remembers things the monk-influenced/Dawn-including way.
I wouldn't do Angel animated. Dark Horse tried it two ways in comic form and IDW has had multiple series of it and...the show version of it was/is lightyears better. I'd just give up on Angel as something done with drawings at this point.
Sugarshock would be wonderful cartoon narcotics. Something online, possibly studio-interference-free, pure Joss, if the funding were available ? Out of all of Joss' already-established titles, I could see this going the Dr. Horrible route the most comfortably. Or Dark Horse could maybe help fund it and it could be direct-to-DVD.
Make Goners an animated direct-to-DVD original Joss project.
Kris | June 14, 05:23 CET
ETA As would Pushing Daisies.
[ edited by peacemonger on 2009-06-14 22:17 ]
fanbuoyant | June 14, 05:25 CET
But yeah, Firefly would also be amazingly awesome.
GreatMuppetyOdin | June 14, 05:27 CET
This. It would make squirrels and vikings cry.
hacksaway | June 14, 05:41 CET
The One True b!X | June 14, 05:48 CET
I would have to differ. A good many of the darkest pieces of fiction I have ever come in contact with were animated. Take for example Batman: The Animated Series or one of it's movie followups like Mask of the Fantasm or Return of the Joker (which stands out for its dark content, even for Batman standards). I think there is a huge amount of un-tapped potential for serious animated dramas and the like in the Western Animation medium.
brinderwalt | June 14, 06:27 CET
Of course they should get more than one voice actor for it. that watchmen thing was fine until the guy did the female voices.
Jayne's Hat | June 14, 07:12 CET
I'm all for having more dark and serious Western animation. There was a pretty cool wave of that back in the '90s which has apparently died out (unless there's something I'm missing), but for a while there was some cool stuff.
archon | June 14, 07:37 CET
Donnie | June 14, 08:59 CET
Lockescythe | June 14, 15:29 CET
NuVanessa | June 14, 16:58 CET
"I wouldn't vote for Goners to be, or not be, animated, because we don't know enough about whether or not it would work as one."
True. I was throwing it out there just as an idea to see it actually get made instead of never seeing it. But it's possibly best left unseen if, in this theoretical situation where animation turned out to be a viable option, it's completely wrong for it.
NuVanessa, I guess most in this thread are assuming in an ideal situation, how the Mutant Enemy properties would be produced. Direct-to-DVD animated films (like what Marvel and DC Comics have been putting out this decade in their PG and PG-13 rated line, or Samuel L. Jackson's R-rated Afro Samurai) can get away with a lot more than what's usually produced for being aired on television (unless it's a prime time animated Fox show, but Fox only seems to allow comedy in that vein, not drama...also, if we could rewind time and go back to the `90s when certain alternative channels were experimenting with animation for teens and adults, like when MTV had The Maxx and Aeon Flux, and HBO had the very adult Spawn animated series and to a lesser degree Spicy City--those would be ideal situations for a Joss animated show that wouldn't have to compromise). But even stuff that's produced for kids can subtly be intended for adults with the right people behind it. Bruce Timm, who produced/directed/wrote and pretty much ran nearly the entire DC Animated franchise (all interconnected shows with the continuity and characters) from 1992 to 2006, which included Batman: The Animated Series (and its darker animated theatrical and direct-to-DVD films), Superman: TAS, Batman Beyond, and Justice League, knew he had to satisfy the networks by appearing to be making a cartoon for kids. But he and his team wrote intelligent plots, got away with a lot of implied adult situations and other serious subject matter...toward the end of that franchise's life they got into heavy political commentary...it was fully engaging on an adult level, most episodes.
Even Buffy Animated probably would've been made equally for kids and adults. We just wouldn't have the words "bitch" and maybe "damn" in it anymore, plus likely little in the way of implied sexual situations, and little to no blood (unless the show was given a sweet prime time slot, but likely would end up being an after school or Saturday morning thing), but otherwise it couldn't be much more restrained and on a short leash than The WB already had it those first five seasons, where Joss had to fight to even feature a girl/girl kiss.
Kris | June 14, 17:19 CET
zee | June 14, 17:44 CET
There were 2 Hellboy straight-to-DVD animated movies and unfortunately they didn't do sell well enough and work for the 3rd one was put on hold. So unfortunately that's not exactly the business model to convince anyone to jump into making more animated movies. Also while Dark Horse was involved with the Hellboy movies, it was Starz Media Group who produced them and in the end the ones who decided not to continue them. I imagine for any other animated movies Dark Horse would also have to get another company involved to help produce it.
I would love to see a Fray animated series, as I think it would lend itself more to an animated series than a live action, which would likely be very expensive to produce.
Matt_Fabb | June 14, 19:04 CET
Matt7325 | June 14, 21:19 CET
Was looking forward to it too when they originally announced it. The actors would've been back to voice their characters for sure.
Kris | June 14, 21:52 CET
Both Doctor Horrible and Sugarshock! seem quite good fits for an animation. And I'll take more Firefly anyway I'd be able to get it. As long as the cast would be back for the voice work it would be awesome (better than either comics or radio, which I also would love).
the Groosalugg | June 14, 21:54 CET
Radaar | June 14, 23:58 CET
1.Fray
2.Farscape
3.Terminator (the latest film, not the series)
Little Green Kid | June 15, 00:15 CET
The current incarnation of Terminator is gonna be a trilogy of films, so no need to wish for an animated continuation for that (unless you want that too, fair enough).
Was cool to see Futurama renewed, see if they can recapture the spark of the TV series. I liked the films for the most part (especially the first, "Bender's Big Score"--though not because of Bender--and the last, "Into the Wild Green Yonder") and felt they were icing on the cake to the 4 voluems of DVDs we already got (or 5 seasons of the TV series, if you go by the erratic way Fox aired it), but I'm not convinced it needs a continuation until I see what they come up with for the TV revival. I love the characters though and it's lightyears better than The Simpsons.
Kris | June 15, 04:18 CET