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June 15 2009

Dollhouse and Whedonverse actors nominated for Tubey Awards. It's up for Best New Show and Worst New Show, among others.

Plus Enver is up for Favorite Actor and Dichen and Amy are up for Favorite Actress, whereas Eliza is up for Least Favorite Actress. Nathan Fillion, Adam Baldwin, and Summer Glau are also nominated (positively) for their shows.

This is the beginning of the first round; final voting will begin in July.

You wait ages for nominations and then three separate ones all come at the same time.
Best new show, for me, was Party Down. I love that show.
Wouldn't it be a lark if it won in both categories?
Favourite actress: Amy Acker
Best non-romantic relationship: Alan & Denny (Boston Legal)
Most anticipated new show: Caprica

The only real whitewashes for me...
I loved seeing Victor/Sierra as best almost couple (or whatever that category was). It upset me that Eliza was not up for Best Actress (but it meant I could happily vote for Summer), and I had a hard time deciding for Best Actor (I ended up voting my heart: Adam Baldwin).
Oh I am definitely anticipating 'V' the most (BOTH Morena and Alan? It has got to be amazing!).
That was fun, thanks for posting it Polter-Cow!

[ edited by embers on 2009-06-15 19:20 ]
Dexter didn't get a lookin for Best Cast? Wow. Colour me surprised.
gossi, Party Down was great, but I gave my vote to The Middleman. That was a tough category, though. Fringe and Leverage were also great.

Dollhouse got my votes for Most Wasted Potential, Favorite Actor (Enver), and Least Favorite Actress (Eliza).
I voted "Dollhouse" for best new show, Amy for best actress, and Victor/Sierra for best 'ship. Was torn between Enver and Neil Patrick Harris for best actor, but ended up going with Neil at the end. :\
Yeah, also with the Fringe and Middleman love. It's good a good year of TV.
They make us choose between Aly and Amy? No fair. (I ended up going with Amy, but man tough decision.)

ETA: And poor David is up for worst actor? I don't watch Bones, but I can't imagine him being so bad.

ETA:
Dexter didn't get a lookin for Best Cast? Wow. Colour me surprised.
Yeah, me too. Well atleast I got to vote for Michael for best actor and Dexter and Deb for best family tie (that was a difficult one, actually, many valid choices)

[ edited by the Groosalugg on 2009-06-15 22:08 ]
I'm a little surprised by the characterization of John and Cameron's relationship on Terminator as 'Non-romantic', though I guess it couldn't fairly be called romantic either.
Yeah, whoever suggested that in that category was in denial.
Well I hope I didn't go through all that for nothing. I couldn't find a "submit vote", so I just exited the page.

I gave Dollhouse my support for Best New show, but it was a tough call, with Leverage and True Blood in the mix.

Really don't understand Eliza in the "worst" category. What she's doing is incredibly demanding, & I think she's made only a couple of mis-steps.
Shey, she got my vote because, in my eyes, she's bringing down the show when she should be carrying it. I don't think it's that she's making missteps; it's that there have only been a couple times where she's excelled. Whereas the rest of the cast brings their A-game every time.
Polter-Cow, she's not supposed to *carry the show*, so if that's what you're looking for then in my eyes, you've been misunderstanding the whole point of the show. Joss put Eliza in that role so she wouldn't HAVE to *carry the show* IMO, give people like Dichen and Tahmoh even more screen time, and you'll see how one note they have been (not bad, just not as good as people have been giving them credit for while making Eliza (who has a heck of alot more to put up with) out to be not as good) Harry Lennix is the only one who's been consistently good in my opinion. (could that be because he has the only even keeled consistent character across the board? Maybe.)


Polter-Cow, she's not supposed to *carry the show*, so if that's what you're looking for then in my eyes, you've been misunderstanding the whole point of the show. Joss put Eliza in that role so she wouldn't HAVE to *carry the show* IMO, give people like Dichen and Tahmoh even more screen time, and you'll see how one note they have been (not bad, just not as good as people have been giving them credit for while making Eliza (who has a heck of alot more to put up with) out to be not as good)


Like it or not,the show was at least partially envisioned by Joss and Eliza as a star vehicle for her where she would be given the chance to act outside of the typecasting restraints she's had to deal with during most of her career. Unfortunately much of the first season seemed to re-inforce, in far too many people's eyes, why it is people have tended to cast her in similar roles.

Also, as good of an actress I think Eliza is (and I do think that, by the way) Dichen and Tahmoh both have her beat in at least one very important respect: They both have more expressive faces which make it a lot easier to read their inner-dialogue just by looking at them rather than need some form of outer verbal exchange to help clarify, as Eliza often does.
Also, as good of an actress I think Eliza is (and I do think that, by the way) Dichen and Tahmoh both have her beat in at least one very important respect: They both have more expressive faces which make it a lot easier to read their inner-dialogue just by looking at them rather than need some form of outer verbal exchange to help clarify, as Eliza often does.

Tahmoh? If there's one thing I didn't like about Tahmoh's Paul it's that he only had one face: Worried. A bit like Lena Heady.

I think Eliza did quite a beautiful range, with "True Believer" and "Haunted" imo being really the high points of her acting. Very different faces, very different emotions. That wipe at the end of "Haunted" always gets me. And her portrayal of a blind woman is also way awesome. And very unlike Echo, Caroline, Omega, Eleanor Penn or anything else she's done all the season.
Scratch that about Tahmoh; he's in the same catgory as Eliza in that regard. I was thinking Polter-Cow meant Enver(who is more of a face actor like Dichen).


I think Eliza did quite a beautiful range, with "True Believer" and "Haunted" imo being really the high points of her acting. Very different faces, very different emotions. That wipe at the end of "Haunted" always gets me. And her portrayal of a blind woman is also way awesome. And very unlike Echo, Caroline, Omega, Eleanor Penn or anything else she's done all the season.


Yes, but still not on the same level of expression as what Dichen and Enver have exhibited.

[ edited by brinderwalt on 2009-06-16 15:09 ]
See, Dichen always kind of looks dead in the eyes to me no matter what she's doing.

That's the fun about forums. People get different things out of one same thing. I'm not looking for a fight.

[ edited by edcsLover9 on 2009-06-16 15:26 ]
Well, I find it easiest to compare when Eliza and another cast member play the same role and in the two I recall from DH, she was bested cleanly by both Dichen and Amy (likely Enver would too, just hasn't been given the chance).
She was? How was Dichen's portrayal of "Taffy" any better than Eliza's? I thought Eliza did it better.
I think unfortunately, Dichen's portrayal of Taffy set the tone for my view of two-noteness from her. She played the geek, and then all the other sort of *bad-ass* people from her were exactly the same.
I think it's interesting how people judge actors' quality. To me it seems script-dependent to a large extent. I find some actors, like David Boreanaz, have screen presence, where I notice them whether they're driving the action or not. I first noticed this in the episode of Angel where David's making breakfast around Wesley and Cordy, who are bickering as usual. David didn't talk until the very end, but he was always RIGHT THERE, imo at least.

I like all three of the actors on Dollhouse. Just because David B. was the star of Angel, it didn't keep Fred, Wesley, Cordy or Gunn from being execellent also. Ensemble casts draw strength from all their parts, if they are done well.

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