11 Vampires Cooler Than Edward Cullen - BtVS

They really went through the trouble of creating a list? All you need is a simple "any." :P

Wow. People expend a lot of time disliking Twilight. Don't these people have jobs? Or hobbies?

I wouldn't consider hating Twilight a hobby of mine but I do passively despise everything it represents. I can't in good conscience endorse this list however since neither Angel nor Darla made the cut and that, dear friends, is a heaping helping of Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor yelling WRONG.

project bitsy | June 19, 05:32 CET

"In my world, Billy Idol stole Spike's look, not the other way around."

Actually, Buffy implied this was true in the Buffyverse as well.

bobw1o | June 19, 05:41 CET

I hate, hate, hate Twilight for too many reasons to list. So I won't.

But Eli rules! LTROI is a monsterly great movie.

Dana5140 | June 19, 05:47 CET

Agree with Spike being on the list but not Drusilla.

Vergil | June 19, 06:07 CET

I agree Dana. Eli FTW. It's actually a pretty good list of Vamps save for the childish ones. Though I get the intent behind them being there.

EX | June 19, 06:08 CET

Aw, no Damon Salvatore or Stefan (from Mercy Thompson series, not Damon's wussy brother), Jean-Claude from Anita Blake (early books... nothing later), or Count Blah from Greg the Bunny?

TehPenguin | June 19, 06:18 CET

If they want to get into books, Thomas Raith from the Dresden Files. I'm a heterosexual man, and I'm pretty sure I'd swing both ways for Thomas.

And Eli was awesome. I loved that movie. Augh, tragic that the only cinema in town that showed it (fifth largest in America, feh) is shutting down.

kishi | June 19, 06:26 CET

Spike should definitely be on the list, but Angel deserved a place in it more than Drusilla did.

Enisy | June 19, 07:06 CET

There is not enough hate and disgust in the world for Twilight. I'm shocked and appalled how many girls and women are buying this dreck.

IrrationaliTV | June 19, 07:31 CET

Um, all of them

Incidentally, did you guys hear that a bunch of rabid fans chased the guy who plays him and he ran onto the road and got hit by a taxi? No joke. He's alright

Let Down | June 19, 07:41 CET

Sad that this list forgot about the various badass Vamps from 'Near Dark'.

As a btw...if there is one good thing to come out of the success of Twilight, is that it looks to have put the kibosh on the long-in-development "Near Dark" remake.

mangydog | June 19, 08:05 CET

Dr. Acula! :D

*is ashamed that her baby sis is one of those 'fans' who even dares say Twilight is far better than BtVS/Ats* I blame it on the teen factor!

Mirage | June 19, 08:33 CET

I'd replace the two comic Counts with Barnabas Collins and Count Orlok from "Nosferatu" (yeah, yeah, I know he was really just Dracula by a different name, but still, one of the creepiest film vampires ever), but otherwise, I can go with this list. Of course, as already mentioned, you could pretty much pick any eleven screen vamps at random...

Rowan Hawthorn | June 19, 08:34 CET

Mirage: Im still in my teens and I can't even sit down and get through the movie, Twilight. Let alone the actual books.

RheaM | June 19, 08:44 CET

Then it has to be peer pressure! ;) LOL Or she just likes 'em.

Check this out.

Mirage | June 19, 09:12 CET

I don't think Twilight is hateable. Just boring ;)

[ edited by Small Blue Thing on 2009-06-19 09:20 ]

Small Blue Thing | June 19, 09:20 CET

Oh, and by the way, Billy Idol actually did spoiled the style.

Small Blue Thing | June 19, 09:22 CET

I don't think Twilight is hateable. Just boring ;)

After I found out how the other books play out I found it to be quite hateable misogynist crap. But I haven't read any of it, so there you go.

wiesengrund | June 19, 09:32 CET

I read the books before they came popular and enjoyed them a lot, I just laughed my way through them and thought they were great escapist reading.

But now that young girls take it seriously and see Bella as a role model, I fear that they may believe men like Edward (who will love them unconditionally without them actually doing anything) actually exist. That really worries me, because this is not a good book for young girls to emulate. It's a really fun book for adults to enjoy with the right attitude.

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I work in a bookstore and young girls worship these characters. I worry especially for the 10-13 yr olds reading it and I hope to God it doesn't influence how they develop relationships with boys. I don't want them to believe that a boy would never hurt them if he said he loved them (thinking they've found their 'Edward') and I don't want them hurting themselves if someone breaks up with them (like Bella does in the books). I know in the books this is done in the name of fantasy but I fear that it may inform young girls in their relationships. It's scary to me because there aren't many good role models for young women in the media at the moment. Not like Buffy anyway.

Sorry this is NOT what this topic is about, I seriously got carried away! Apologies.

noonien | June 19, 10:18 CET

I do expend too much time hating Twilight. I consider it my favorite hobby.

GBG | June 19, 11:48 CET

wiesengrund, I bow before your link *adds to Bookmarks*

Mirage | June 19, 12:06 CET

Angel should definitely be on that list.

Great link wiesengrund!
I even bought three of the Twilight books! (just before insanity swept over most of the 10-14 yr olds in the female population) *hangs head in shame*

I may use them for fuel in the cold winter months.

Shep | June 19, 12:37 CET

What would be nice about the reboot movie (ugh) would be if the Twilight crowd went to see it and then got curious about the series, and then in watching all 7 seasons of Buffy got exposed to a far, far better way of envisioning themselves, their place in the world, and their relationships...

Okay, I can dream, right?

qui_ca | June 19, 13:00 CET

Joining in the "Twilight presents a dangerous, misogynist role model for young girls" chorus.
I think TananaC put it most succinctly.
And thanks for the great link, mirage .... Craig Fergeson dissing the Twilight vampires, gives me hope. ;)

Back OT: .... only eleven? Someone wasn't trying hard enough. Both Angel and Darla should definitely be included, plus all Ann Rices vamps. Even the wussy Louis could kick Edwards' sparkly ass.
ETA: And Bill from True Blood. He's shaping up to be one scary vamp, under that southern gentleman exterior.

[ edited by Shey on 2009-06-19 13:03 ]

Shey | June 19, 13:01 CET

Count Chocula = Deliciousness

I approve of this list.

Daburcor | June 19, 13:15 CET

I thought this was cool until reading 11. Count Chocula.
I guess this is proof that everyone has an opinion, right or wrong. Serious or silly.

cheryl | June 19, 14:12 CET

This Twilight, it vibrates?

Caroline | June 19, 14:23 CET

Has everybody already seen this fictional interview with Buffy, Bella and Sookie?
It's hilarious!
http://st-salieri.livejournal.com/306303.html

Xane | June 19, 14:54 CET

Thanks a lot wiesengrund!

This list is very thin , leaving behind, at least Julian Luna, Daedelus and Eddie Fiori from Kindred, Count Duckula and I would add a Brazilian representer: Bento Carneiro.

Brasilian Chaos Man | June 19, 15:11 CET

What the hell is Twilight?

The Great Gonzo | June 19, 15:19 CET

What is with calling True Blood "The Sookie Stackhouse Series"?

FaithsTruCalling | June 19, 15:37 CET

Thanks Xane for the two great stories.

[ edited by Vergil on 2009-06-19 15:37 ]

Vergil | June 19, 15:37 CET

What the hell is Twilight?

I believe a more cool question should be Who the hell is Twilight?
I'm betting in Caleb, but probably it's wrong :)

Brasilian Chaos Man | June 19, 15:54 CET

Some IP posted to Wikipedia that Twilight was Harth Fray, but that seems problematic to me.

jclemens | June 19, 16:56 CET

My first idea, jclemens, right after I saw some flying boots hoovering Buffy's team, was it being Fray.

Brasilian Chaos Man | June 19, 17:04 CET

jclemens, that would be great! I also think it's problematic but if anyone can find a way to work it, it's Joss.

Harth is Twilight. Wow that's even better than Ben is Glory. ;D

Willowy | June 19, 17:13 CET

The 80s dressed vampire Willow went with the first time Buffy went to the Bronz was cooler than Edward Cullen

Harmony's vampire minion played by Tom Lenk was cooler than Edward Cullen.

The skanky Vampire "Sex Worker" who sucked Riley's blood was cooler than Edward Cullen.

The Nerdy Vampire who the Judge killed to assert his authority after Spike assembled him was cooler than Edward Cullen.

The grunge vampire looser who wouldn't turn Darla was cooler than Edward Cullen

I think I've made my point now

mr_waterproof | June 19, 17:36 CET

Huh. Not a bad solution to the "Twilight" mystery, jclemens. Interesting.

I can't resist joining in the OTHER Twilight loathing party. I think that series is utter crap - I found the writing atrocious - and misogynist crap at that. I feel sorry for the actors in the movie, though, especially that guy who plays Edward. There may be nothing scarier and more dangerous than worked up female tween fans. Seriously. He has officially lost control of his private life, more than what happens to most actors.

Oh, and I agree completely with Dana on Eli in Let the Right One In. God, that movie (and she) rocked. Amazing. Speaking of Swedish actors, I must say, too, that Alex Skarsgard is dynamite on True Blood. That guy has some serious charisma.

[ edited by phlebotinin on 2009-06-19 17:53 ]

phlebotinin | June 19, 17:50 CET

This isn't 11 vampires "scarier than" Cullen, it is "cooler than".

Count von Count and Count Chocula definitely make the list.
(When Xander first met Dracula, who was the first vampire he thought of? Count von Count!)

OneTeV | June 19, 18:05 CET

phleb! Was just thinking about where you've been and why you haven't been over to flickr lately! Nice to see you.

Willowy | June 19, 18:09 CET

OTOH, mr_waterproof, the dorky vamp with the Hanson shirt that catches out the Buffybot and sends Razor & Co. to Sunnydale wasn't cooler than Cullen.

In fact, he may be the only vamp in the history of the form who isn't.

Vague That Up | June 19, 18:59 CET

Xane, that was fantastic, thanks.

ManEnoughToAdmitIt | June 19, 19:03 CET

Happy that Spike and Dru were mentioned, but no Angel(us)? That's just wrong! I also find it hilarious that Count Von Count is cooler than Edward Cullen. ;)

Jossfan_21 | June 19, 19:12 CET

Folks, the book for LTROI is even better and far more fleshed out that in the movie. We learn a LOT more about Eli- but see the movie first so that you are not influenced by the book. True story- I wrote Roger Ebert to let him know the movie did not contain the iron rod scene he mentions when he reviews the movie. He made mention of it in his review, and it never was actually was in the movie, only the book! That is how strong those scenes are. But it would be better to see the movie without knowing that those scenes are missing. And I have given away nothing by saying this.

Alex Skarsgaard is also very good as Eric. I laughed out loud at him streaking his hair is the opening ep of S2 last Sunday, even as he was terrifying. With aluminum foil in his hair. LOL.

Eli is one of the great movie vampires, and one of the most real.

[ edited by Dana5140 on 2009-06-19 19:21 ]

Dana5140 | June 19, 19:20 CET

Anyone knows if the cast for the US remake of Let The Right One In is already decided?

Brasilian Chaos Man | June 19, 20:35 CET

I am the scary math teacher. Ha, ha, ha! With apologies to Count von Count.

Rusty626 | June 19, 20:47 CET

Angel and Darla need to be on the list.

And Eli (Let the Right One In) for that matter. And with child vampires, of course, you must mention Claudia.

Louis de Point du Lac is also a million times better than Edward Cullen (boy, was that movie terrible--I had my reservations about it, but I didn't expect it to be *that* bad).

NileQT87 | June 19, 21:04 CET

Most of the people I know who dislike Twilight do so because they feel it is really nothing more than a glorified "Mary Sue" fanfic, where the main character is the all-powerful focal point of the entire story. It's diva drama. That and the fact that sparkly vampires are just too silly to take seriously. [Althought watching it with the rif-tracks is hilarious!]

My girlfried, in her brilliance, keeps talking about writing her own "Emo Chupacabra" series to compete with Twilight. If you're going to exploit that much angst, why not do it with a heavy spread of cheesy? :)

Regarding the list, I'm just disappointed that Barnabas Collins was overlooked. Dark Shadows doesn't have nearly as much exposure among modern geeks as it deserves.

RayHill | June 19, 22:32 CET

What is with calling True Blood "The Sookie Stackhouse Series"?

Because the books the show is based on are called that.

escapist_dream | June 20, 00:27 CET

Count von Count would destroy Edward(considering he would try to pose his way out of it). Sorry for so much bile but the Twilight movie just represents everything that people get wrong with supernatural stories and I had hoped we had all gratefully forgotten.

silent knight | June 20, 03:08 CET

Again, this is a "cooler than" list which means its completely subjective. Spike was just cool. Dru was so batty she was cool. I loved Angel, but he was such a "hero with a dark past" prototypical character that there wasn't a whole lot of "coolness" there aside from he was handsome and wore black. Angelus was a the opposite "unrepentant artistic lover of evil" that was probably scarier than Spike, but again... kinda generic.

Anyone else find it odd that we find Spike so cool when he is the ultimate personification of overcompensation? Just a thought. For the record, Spike is very cool.

azzers | June 20, 04:12 CET

Well, I think most of us decided Spike was cool in 'School Hard' and it wasn't until season 5 that we found out that his Spike persona is him overcompensating for his pathetic former self. I wonder if so many of us would think Spike was cool if we'd first seen him as the prissy upper class British guy and then seen him morph into Spike. Anyway, Spike rocks

Let Down | June 20, 05:34 CET

I dunno, Let Down -- how many of us think Wesley is cool?

ManEnoughToAdmitIt | June 20, 06:49 CET

Well, I don't know either which is why I said I wonder. You make a good oint. But, still, I'm not sure that Wesley was quite as pathetic as William.

Let Down | June 20, 07:54 CET

Darn close...

ManEnoughToAdmitIt | June 20, 23:49 CET

The only vampire that should glitter is Harmony!

wilder | June 21, 23:57 CET

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