The plot hole that bugs Peter David doesn't bug me. We know that Wesley read everything that's ever been written about Angelus. Wouldn't some of that mention that he, Spike, Dru and Darla ran around together?

I would've expected it to come out like this, instead:
Wesley: William the Bloody?
Angel: Spike.
Harmony: Blondie-bear?
Because the Watchers always call him that first.

LudditeRobot | October 03, 00:10 CET

In retrospect, yeah, that *does* sound better!

Oddjob | October 03, 00:11 CET

I thought I was gonna like Eve and hate Harmony this season. Instead I adored Harmony and thought Eve was major boring and annoying. Eve's not a very well presented character so far, and the woman performing her is just obvious eye candy with a cocky desire to be melodramatic but no flair for it. Everything Eve's presently doing? They coulda put Harmony in that position, given McNabb more face time, and the story wouldn't have been affected at all. Make Harmony both Angel's secretary AND his connection to The Partners.

Had they kept Lilah Morgan around maybe the chemistry would be different. This Eve character leaves me lukewarm. They shoulda paid Stephanie Romanov what she was worth to keep her on staff. Either that or like I said, give Sarah Thompson's face time to McNabb. I'm not sayin make Harmony cocky and powerful. She could be Angel's link to the powers, but her attitude about it would be exactly the opposite. She wouldn't use her place as if there were influence, because quite frankly there is not.

If'n ah wuz Whedon. *smirk*

Wesley would have referred to Spike as Spike. Not as William the Bloody.

1. Wesley's not a Watcher anymore, as will become more evident later in the season. So he wouldn't say something just cuz other Watchers might have said the same thing.
   
2. Calling Spike William to his face would be like calling Angel Liam to his face. The Wesley from season three of Buffy would have done that, but not the more mature man the character of Wesley has become.
   

Had Wesley referred to Spike as William, THAT would have sounded wrong. It's fine the way it is. Peter David is looking for errors where there are none.

The rebooting of Gunn's character is gonna take some getting used to. Yes, the old Gunn would take the dare. So this makes sense in a way. However, I can't help but think what they're doing to Gunn is just cuz they've written themselves into a boring corner with the guy. Kinda like Xander in season seven. They wanna turn Gunn around 180 degrees. Let's hope they don't make us all too dizzy while they're at it.

ZachsMind | October 03, 01:49 CET

The main thing on the line is that the repetition of Spike's name followed by the Blondie Bear line is a better rhythm for the joke while the William the Bloody is just a fan thing. Peter Davis is indeed looking for errors where there are none but that seems to a Buffy-nation pastime.

I am very curious to see where the rebooting of Gunn is going to lead us. Hopefully, it will not lead to more courtroom sequences. I've often wondered if there is anything that Whedon cannot write and last night I finally got my answer.

I agree that situation with Gunn was brought about because there was little left to do with the character as he existed but I don't have a problem with that. Sometimes you run out of things to do with a character, and how great of Joss & Co. to realise that and try to go off in new directions rather than just flogging a dead horse like most long form dramas.

[ edited by unitas on 2003-10-03 03:40 ]

Unitas | October 03, 05:00 CET

I personally didn't have a lot of problems with the courtroom scene. I thought it was well-written within the confines of the show, and I certainly wouldn't say that it was a flop. Probably a little out-of-context for a show about a Vampire's search for redemption, which probably put the audience off a bit, but assuming Joss had any intention of writing a stereotypical "courtroom drama" I saw no evidence to make me think he couldn't.

That being said, I was wondering if the things Gunn was saying re: the law, were true.

ringworm | October 03, 09:37 CET

I am in much agreement with Zach...the old Wes would have said that, but Wes is not what he used to be...look at the guy...he has been clocking "the field time" and he is not an outsider looking in on that world, studying it, he's living it...he is among them...calling him Spike and not William...just what I would expect.

Coll | October 03, 15:45 CET

If they can just zap lawyerly knowledge into someone's head, why not do it to everybody? Why don't they use Cerebro there to just put whatever they need in someone's head?

That device seemed like a cheap, well, device. I don't care for Gunn anyway, but if they were gonna improve his brain, why not use some Shaman and a mystical mind-meld? Something more geared for his personal use, like he was chosen for it, instead of it just being convenient.

Willowy | October 03, 18:31 CET

I thought of it as a kinda of Shaman just not the more stereotypical cloak-and-big-voice type. Besides, it is just a device for trasforming the Gunn character. The big thing is where do we go from here? (Why does that sound so familar)

Unitas | October 03, 21:27 CET