August 06 2009
Fox's Kevin Reilly and Peter Rice talk Dollhouse at the TCA Press Tour.
Kevin Reilly, Fox's Entertainment President, said "Joss is an incredible creator of TV shows and the show got better and better as the season went on". Peter Rice, Fox's Chairman, added "In the second half, he really found the show and started having fun with it... It's going to be much smoother sailing this year". iFMagazine indirectly quotes Reilly as saying the first season's numbers would "give him confidence to order the back nine [of season 2] and perhaps even a third season".
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@theonetruebix | August 06, 10:12 CET
Still, best to see it as a good thing I suppose.
Saje | August 06, 10:19 CET
What's the point of hieing someone like Joss if you're going to micromanage him? If you wnat it done your way, then do it yourself!
There has been a big (in the industry anyway) fuss recently here about the BBCs drama development process, with accusations that numerous execs give out endless notes on a show, before passing the project up to the next commissioning level, who then come out with their notes and so on.
So it's not just Fox...
zz9 | August 06, 10:22 CET
Lots more at this link. Read.
@theonetruebix | August 06, 10:49 CET
My jaw has dropped down to the floor.
sumogrip | August 06, 10:58 CET
Was that actually said or is that what ifMagazine thought was said? But any road I've added it to the entry as it's bound to be picked up elsewhere.
Simon | August 06, 10:59 CET
@theonetruebix | August 06, 11:11 CET
I am happy to hear anything positive about the life expectancy of Dollhouse.
Apropos of almost nothing at all, I had a dream this morning that Enver Gjokaj was helping me make the bed and spread out the handmade quilt - which surprised the hell out of me, since I... well, since I've never seen Enver make a bed.
I can't think what it might mean.
QuoterGal | August 06, 11:13 CET
Yeah, a real mystery there.
@theonetruebix | August 06, 11:14 CET
You need your sheets changed?
Simon | August 06, 11:17 CET
But I said to one of the cast members the other day - I think they will get the back 9 episode order. I also think they may get a season 3. It's a weird show in a commercial sense (come on, it's a Joss show, of course it is), but the key difference this season - and, you know, I've seen this with my own eyes - is everybody is much more confident about it creatively. Including the network. I think the big surprise will be the shift in Whedon fan response to the series.
gossi | August 06, 13:23 CET
didifallasleep | August 06, 13:48 CET
Donnie | August 06, 13:50 CET
I'm biting. What shift do you see in our future, gossi?
haney-hop | August 06, 13:52 CET
gossi | August 06, 13:53 CET
Yes, by Enver, apparently. Who knew?
QuoterGal | August 06, 14:51 CET
jcs | August 06, 14:54 CET
hacksaway | August 06, 15:30 CET
silent knight | August 06, 15:31 CET
gossi | August 06, 16:14 CET
archon | August 06, 16:36 CET
Numfar PTB | August 06, 16:43 CET
baxter | August 06, 17:07 CET
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@theonetruebix | August 06, 17:09 CET
gossi | August 06, 17:11 CET
zz9 | August 06, 17:51 CET
cabri | August 06, 18:39 CET
... So will this be when they pull the rug out from under us and kill off our favorite show when least expected? It'd be a move worthy of a Joss script, after all ;)
GVH | August 06, 18:41 CET
Exits. Returns, after a pause, to say
"It" being "ass."
Pointy | August 06, 18:58 CET
Let Down | August 06, 19:04 CET
"As for the Friday time slot, Reilly says the low expectations on Friday night also factored into the second season renewal.
“There’s less pressure on it and when we told Joss what we were going to do, ‘we can give you better time slots, but you’re going to be under a lot of pressure’ I believe what he said to me, ‘I’m actually comfortable staying on, rather than having a bigger rating and the pressure of not being able to see the order through,’” adds Reilly."
Let Down | August 06, 19:05 CET
I hope it comes true. How sweet would it be to have Joss on your TV for 5 more years??? *bliss*
korkster | August 06, 19:24 CET
zeitgeist | August 06, 19:28 CET
@theonetruebix | August 06, 19:33 CET
[ edited by Jobo on 2009-08-07 04:39 ]
sumogrip | August 06, 19:39 CET
Anyway, looking forward to "Dollhouse's" second season. You know, I think it's going to rock big time!
Madhatter | August 06, 20:07 CET
Jobo, last time I checked I had only seen Dollhouse t-shirts. But my last time was pre-CC, so who knows.
korkster | August 06, 20:15 CET
I bet his hospital corners are amazing.
... it kind of reads to me more like they had a conversation about why FOX wanted to stick with Fridays, and that Joss grokked it and agreed ...
Yeah, I read that more as "we could offer you a new timeslot [but we think it'd be a bad idea]" and Joss agreeing.
Well, it seems like Fox are actually doing what we've hoped for all along - looking at the "long tail" of Joss' stuff and taking a risk on that basis. Turns out all that stuff Fox said about experimenting with new ways of doing things wasn't just marketing bollocks, who knew ? Anyone ? *ignores zeitgeist's hand in the air* Yeah, see, a complete surprise to us all.
(course, i'm still reserving judgment slightly - cos talkin' ain't doin' - but the signs look promising)
Saje | August 06, 21:58 CET
korkster | August 06, 22:28 CET
@theonetruebix | August 06, 22:40 CET
orangewaxlion | August 06, 22:40 CET
orangewaxlion, I think Reilly gave the Dollhouse campaigns too much positive credit, but I don't blame him for letting the the water go under the bridge. Personally, and I believe my initial reaction was also an added problem, is that it brought so much focus to the Dollhouse and their birthing-pains that it actually hurt the initial episodes... more than they deserve.
But now, that's all done with. And as I sit here, tattooing Fox to the inside of my left arm, I think we've all reached a *better* place, and because of that, Season 2 will blow us away.
korkster | August 06, 22:52 CET
Let Down | August 07, 00:25 CET
Currently got the same feeling I had the days before the Dollhouse renewal, with all the promising articles turning up. Hopeful!!!
Jaymii | August 07, 02:38 CET
zeitgeist | August 07, 09:09 CET