My own recent experiences have proven that even the tiniest women are stronger and braver than men, no matter how big and macho the men are.

Nebula1400 | August 28, 03:25 CET

Not that we generalize here ;)

azzers | August 28, 03:27 CET

I voted for River!

CowboyCliche | August 28, 04:08 CET

Not that we generalize here ;)

OK. No. I have just been through a couple of experiences, though, where the men essentially ducked with their tails between their legs, while the women stood their ground. We we badass. The men involved were just bass. Or ass.

Nebula1400 | August 28, 04:10 CET

River, of course. This will be the answer and will continue to be the answer until they pit River against say... Godzilla. Maybe.


You know what would be a good battle? Buffy and the Buffybot vs. Godzilla and Mechagodzilla.

wouldestous | August 28, 04:15 CET

There are some very funny comments in their comments section.

Somehow badass is not the term I think of applying to Kirk.

barboo | August 28, 06:01 CET

I voted for Kirk since it was Shatner. I'd vote for River if it was 'shudder' Pine.

[ edited by redeem147 on 2009-08-28 06:37 ]

redeem147 | August 28, 06:38 CET

Just teasing Nebula. I think everyone ends up with a few of those experiences on both sides.

azzers | August 28, 06:58 CET

Quite. Bravery obviously isn't a function of gender (though physical strength, on average, is). It's as ridiculous to claim ALL women are stronger/braver than ALL men as it is to vice that versa.

Anyway, River, for consistency (Kirk's a brawler and he's got grit but he's not psychic, doesn't seem to know martial arts and isn't almost preternaturally agile).

Saje | August 28, 07:28 CET

isn't almost preternaturally agile.

Not so sure about that. ;)

redeem147 | August 28, 07:51 CET

Some of those comments were a riot!! I especially loved the Kirk youtube video someone did! Love both Kirk & River but yeah, River would kick his ass - especially because Kirk would be too busy trying to flirt with her!

Firefly Flanatic | August 28, 07:55 CET

We know from his many fights in the engine room that Kirk always swings and misses, yet there's a thud sound added in post. So clearly River would win in a flesh fight.

will.bueche | August 28, 08:19 CET

Unless she fell for those mysterious charms of his and swooned. No?

jcs | August 28, 08:47 CET

This was funny:

" You people are forgetting one big thing, Kirk is a Starfleet captain, and as a Starfleet captain he has the most powerful force in the universe on his side: the deus ex machina. There's no way River could beat Kirk, since he'd re-route the matter-antimatter quantum phase tachyon pulse through the positronic gamma singularity core via the singularity matrix resonance conduits and she'd be disintegrated at a subatomic level before she even got close."

To which the next post said:

"That's more of a Picard thing. Kirk has the double-fist back thump and some paradoxes from his Philosophy 101 class at the Academy. Works every time."

Personally, I am really interested in the River Tam v. Dark Willow fight. That might be very interesting indeed.

Dana5140 | August 28, 10:16 CET

How could they possibly not be on the same side? Harumph.

Gemini Webster | August 28, 10:32 CET

And River can kill him with her brain. ;) I agree that it would take Dark Willow to give River serious competition.

Shey | August 28, 11:50 CET

Oh, please. Aeryn Sun is about fifty times the badass that Kirk is.

Gouki | August 28, 13:08 CET

And only half the badass that River is.

Dana5140 | August 28, 13:27 CET

I dont't know, River never killed people during and right after giving birth.

Gouki | August 28, 14:34 CET

Gouki, not that we know of anyway... :) Perhaps once season two is greenlit, we'll find out otherwise.

Deanna_Lynne | August 28, 16:07 CET

Do you remember a scene where Kirk tries to run up a wall and falls while the guy he is fighting it just standing there? I can't ever see River doing that.

Nebula1400 | August 28, 17:36 CET

Can River get her shirt torn in the fight?

/Just wondering....

zz9 | August 28, 17:58 CET

Kirk is the biggest hero when the matter is getting girls to save his people. In that business, only Bond could beat him.

[ edited by Brasilian Chaos Man on 2009-08-28 18:12 ]

Brasilian Chaos Man | August 28, 18:12 CET