Whedonesque : Comments on 22353 : Save Her?

I hope her name isn't Hazel.

Meanwhile, ditchthetech.com has a new video. And there's a new pointer in its source code.

The One True b!X | November 13, 21:37 CET

You mean the @AlexfromPR twitter account? The one that leads to the blog?

(I've only just twigged who the person in the blog header resembles.)

jamesthegill | November 13, 21:41 CET

Interesting. Hmm...Don't have time, gotta go to work. Thanks to the folks putting all the effort into these though, they're fun.

Kris | November 13, 21:48 CET

Is this going to help us over throw Fox?

embers | November 13, 22:10 CET

Much thanks to whoever is putting these up (they're keeping me very entertained) As for the passcodes, I'm stumped... Anyone having any luck?

property of Mr Gordo | November 13, 22:18 CET

I don't know if I'm onto anything or not, but I noticed when typing random letters into the "codename" box that (without pressing shift) certain letters are capitalized and certain ones are lowercase. I typed in the alphabet and the only lowercase letters are acdemnos, which are the letter in "codenames."

Anyone have anything else?

iluvmusicals | November 13, 22:32 CET

The other day I called the phone number and got a weird message back. I don't know what it means, I just know it thanked me for taking an interest in the corp, told me to wait for a message and then made a staticy sound. Kinda reminded me of a remote wipe sound. xD

I don't think it means anything, but maybe we could try calling?...again?

xWolffspridex | November 13, 22:54 CET

Wow Heiti is key. Great.

Simon | November 13, 22:56 CET

And Sara at Spectrin? Didn't expect that. :)

wiesengrund | November 13, 22:59 CET

You got remote wiped? Maybe calling that number is a bad thing. Don't want to end up like the dude in Epitaph One.

hacksaway | November 13, 22:59 CET

Anyone know the alt code for a greek alpha? I wanna try it, lol.

Xantastic1316 | November 13, 23:07 CET

The person in the AlexfromPR blog header looks a lot like the girl in the new ditchthetech.com video to me - I wonder if that's who we're trying to save?

CZGoldEdition | November 13, 23:07 CET

At least that's what it sounded like Hacksaway! Maybe that's why we aren't suppose to pick up the phone...

xWolffspridex | November 13, 23:08 CET

The Passcode is Username: 69B Password: 478 (from @tombness)
This gives "Access Granted" and has a new message:
Sara at Spectrin
Heiti is Key

If you go to Spectrin, you'll find Sara Kinglsey, Emeritus Investigator. The only email on the site is sarak.spectrin@gmail.com

Not sure about the reference to Heiti though.

[ edited by JenskiJen on 2009-11-13 23:26 ]

JenskiJen | November 13, 23:10 CET

Found the codes following the twitter threads.

Spectrin website is intruiging.

viewingfigures | November 13, 23:11 CET

I got remoted wiped yesterday too! I answered the phone even though it was displaying a number I didn't recognize off hand (it was the number from the Rossum site, though). A pre-recorded message informed me how much Rossum valued all its shareholders and told me to please hold. Suddenly the audio cut to garbled static, followed by a message instructing me to await further contact and to have a bright future.

Also, RE: those finding information about Heiti and Spectrin. What's that about? What passcode worked for you? I've been hearing 69 or 69B and 478 but those just generate an error - not validated message for me.

CZGoldEdition | November 13, 23:14 CET

Is this our Sara? Or just a REALLY bizarre coincidence?
http://www.spectrin.com/emeritus.html

This is kinda scary, but really fun!! :) Sadly, it gives me some hope that somehow, the show won't be cancelled after all, that this is some devious ploy to get us up and at it.... A girl can dream :/

And I won't pick up the phone.

Carnelionne | November 13, 23:20 CET

Sara's page at Spectrin shows someone's having fun... or can't write. Anything she wrote couldn't be referred to in de Chardin's writings, since he lived in the World War I era.

ETA: ...unless that's part of the mystery. De Chardin wrote of an evolved human consciousness he called "The Omega Point."

[ edited by ManEnoughToAdmitIt on 2009-11-13 23:28 ]

ManEnoughToAdmitIt | November 13, 23:29 CET

@ManEnoughToAdmitIt - The company seems to investigate the supernatural, so it's possible that Sara's older than we think. Especially given that "Our current company was chartered in 1724 and we are proud to be New York's oldest investigative firm." I'm thinking along the lines of Mr Ambrose's new service offering.

I wonder if "Spectrin's direct corporate ancestor (Hunter & Lockerbie)" is a clue, or if any of the Open/Closed cases are relevant?

JenskiJen | November 13, 23:33 CET

Suddenly the audio cut to garbled static, followed by a message instructing me to await further contact and to have a bright future.

Haha, I think there are a bunch of sleeper agents here at Whedonesque now. No one say anything about flowers!

hacksaway | November 13, 23:34 CET

...Or Sara's simply a tad older than she looks...? Is there a clue provided in the various photographs of cases that are either open or closed? Any of the years or instances ring a bell?

Anyone else disappointed over the fact that Sara's email is @gmail.com?

(Sorry, posted simultaneously with the two above)

[ edited by Carnelionne on 2009-11-13 23:34 ]

Carnelionne | November 13, 23:34 CET

I only know that the only open case had a picture of one of those storage containers. One of the metal ones?

xWolffspridex | November 13, 23:40 CET

'Sara at spectrin' anagrams to 'A Panic Restarts.'

ETA: No logical anagrams for 'heiti is key' unless they're trying to warn us about yetis that ski.

[ edited by Xantastic1316 on 2009-11-13 23:51 ]

Xantastic1316 | November 13, 23:47 CET

Sent an email to Sara citing Heiti. I'll post if I get a response.

Also, I have no idea if this is relevant or just a coincidence, but I googled "Spectrin" and "Heiti" and one of the top responses was a Biology Image Library image of cancer cells by Heiti Paves. The full image (accessible via Google Cache) mentions that the "Cell surface ruffles (red) on Cos7 (African green monkey kidney cell line). GFP expression in cytoplasm. The membrane was stained with anti-spectrin antibodies and anti-mouse rhodamine secondary antibodies. Fluorescence microscopy, 40x objective lens." Heiti Paves is an Estonian scientist, whose work was recently featured on Wired.com. If nothing else, the photos are wicked!

[ edited by JenskiJen on 2009-11-14 00:16 ]

JenskiJen | November 14, 00:01 CET

I did too JenskiJen a while ago, great minds think a like. ;)

xWolffspridex | November 14, 00:04 CET

There is a client log in button within the site.

viewingfigures | November 14, 00:17 CET

Should someone request "Tips" from Spectrin (spectrin.com/tips)? The same "sarak" address is provided, and you're asked to give some details about your company and the problem you're encountering. I don't have time now, but I might pose as a company in some kind of PR trouble.

[ edited by PlanetOfHats on 2009-11-14 00:27 ]

PlanetOfHats | November 14, 00:26 CET

Google tells me that Sara Kingsley is also the character name of a Doctor in Star Trek: The Next Generation. She was the head physician at the Darwin Genetic Research Station in 2365. She led an experiment to produce "superhuman" children who would be immune to virtually all forms of disease. Source.

And the title character in a series of mystery novels "The Sara Kingsley Mystery" by Anne Wilson.

JenskiJen | November 14, 00:46 CET

I sent an email requesting "Tip Sheets" from Spectrin. I'll definitely update if I hear back.

One other thing that is totally random -- someone mentioned when the Rossum website first went up that one of their Locations was in a very small town in Iceland. From what I've seen in all my searches of the word/name, "Heiti" is very Icelandic.

Oh, and from Rossum's map of locations, it looks like one of their offices is in Guantanamo? :)

ithilien | November 14, 01:01 CET

I emailed Sara. I'll let you know if I hear anything back.

I was also wiped last night. Didn't recognize the number but it literally called back 3 times so I finally picked it up.

E-Rawk | November 14, 01:07 CET

In her spare time Ms. Kingsley publishes fiction under a nom de plume

Heiti is key

I'm trying to find a connection, but not having much success.

HEITI: substitution of one noun for another

And on the Sugarshock side of things:

In Viking societies, many people had nicknames heiti, viðrnefni or uppnefni which were used in addition to, or instead of their family names.

Xantastic1316 | November 14, 01:22 CET

So what Topher should have said, E-Rawk, is "Don't pick up the phone even if you get really curious about who's calling you so much!"

And what you're saying, Xantastic, is that Rossum is really a Viking front company? Easily dispatched, then. All we have to do is get in touch with Dandelion's secret government agency and she'll play the saddest song in the world at them. Should clear the whole problem right up, unless Rossum is actually run by squirrels.

ManEnoughToAdmitIt | November 14, 01:48 CET

Pretty much, manenough. Or, "even if it is really annoying that they keep calling and you're afraid that someone you know is in trouble and calling from a phone booth or something" though that might be too vague/specific.

E-Rawk | November 14, 01:59 CET

I have nothing to add, except a vague sense that "nom de plume" and "heiti is the key" adds up to some sort of roman a clef thing (maybe related to LOCKERbie?)... yeah, I got nothing. But this is cool.

Septimus | November 14, 04:01 CET

Yeah, mostly I'm just theoreticizing (and made-up-word-i-cizing too) but I'm probably blundering through all the wrong territory. *shrugs* This is fun whether I'm right, wrong, or some other third thing.

Xantastic1316 | November 14, 04:23 CET

Actually, all of the Spectrin people's last names have meanings of some sort (Hunter, Kingsley, Candel, de Lard)... so, they could be easily roman a clefed...

Septimus | November 14, 05:08 CET

Interesting that "Heiti" is Icelandic and one of Rossum's regional offices is in Akranes, Iceland. Just haven't figured out the connection yet.

MikeATL | November 14, 06:37 CET

The Spectrin site says that in case of emergency one should "Conduct a problem assessment. Ensure proper documentation of dates and times of events; log any missing or new assets;" so I present to you the years listed in the case gallery. These don't seem likely to be the "dates and times" of significance, though. Note the change in punctuation. I have also listed a description of the picture accompanying each, although I suspect this is not significant.

1811: CASE 17A15. OPEN. [hospital]
1847: CASE 23H02. CLOSED. [train]
1933: CASE 41KL9B. CLOSED. [plane]
1936: CASE 499J; CLOSED. [alley]
1962: CASE 59002; OPEN. [metal room]
1983: CASE 6612D-2; CLOSED. [street]

Edit: my other idea is that 'heiti' could be some sort of decoding key (Lewis Carroll used such a system, for example), but I haven't reached anywhere with that idea.

[ edited by Rosetta on 2009-11-14 08:57 ]

Rosetta | November 14, 08:38 CET

If anyone wants to listen to the phone message that you get if you've called the number on the Rossum website, you can download or listen to it here. Beware the sleeper agent transfer!

It might also be useful to note that the website is copyright 2004, and the last message to the shareholders is dated 2003.

Also... AlexfromPR's birthday is December 4 (the day Dollhouse returns)... coinkydink?

JenskiJen | November 14, 10:09 CET

Have a close look at the lower back, reflected in the mirror, of the chap to the far left of the 1811 open case.

Also, some folk above have commented on Sara's age. She is listed as an Emeritus Investigator. "Emeritus" means retired but still allowed to practise. (Is it just me or does she also look the spitting image of Tamara Taylor?)

And Robert A. Hunter is a specialist in vivoelectrics - a recent medical advancement whereby small electrical currents are used to help foreign tissue adapt to an individuals DNA structure or measure alerations in body chemistry.

Plus, did anyone else note on their website that, they specialise in property, specifically abandoned property?

I'm thinking either this will be the company that will take down Rossum or the company to supercede them. Didn't Joss say that by the time the last episode of Dollhouse airs we will already know what his next project is? A Temporal Displacement Investigative Agency? I'd like me some of that.

I still have no idea on "heiti" - except to reiterate that there is a user log in button within the page - sadly it is not working presently.

Oh and way back up this thread - LOL @ Xantastic1316 - Yetis That Ski.

viewingfigures | November 14, 12:16 CET

(Is it just me or does she also look the spitting image of Tamara Taylor?)

From Wikipedia: Tamara also played a small role in the movie Serenity.

Didn't Joss say that by the time the last episode of Dollhouse airs we will already know what his next project is? A Temporal Displacement Investigative Agency? I'd like me some of that.

That does sound awesome. And why would they have open cases as early as 1811? That's not a regular practice, is it? And while I'm at it, "We hope to have a voice in your timeline soon." and @AlexFromPR insisting that the person in the video looks like her, but that someone must be playing a sick joke on her. The only real question is, if this is Joss' next project, is it going to be peripherally connected to Dollhouse?

I still have no idea on "heiti" - except to reiterate that there is a user log in button within the page - sadly it is not working presently.

I find it interesting that the error message changed at some point in the last 18-ish hours. It said 'Error' the first time I looked and now it says 'We are sorry, there is currently an issue with this page. Please try again later.' Not a significant difference, but the mere fact of it being changed so soon after people started breaking the WipeTheFuture (heh, WTF) codes seems to indicate that it definitely is the next link in this chain of websites.

LOL @ Xantastic1316 - Yetis That Ski.

A fine example of me blundering in the completely wrong area. (Which I might still be doing.)

Xantastic1316 | November 14, 14:33 CET

Still thinking about and frustrated over what we may or may not be seeing. According to my friend wikipedia, a
"heiti is a synonym used in Old Norse poetry in place of the normal word for something. For instance, Old Norse poets might use jór "steed" instead of the prosaic hestr "horse"."
(Now, with an English degree, I'm sure there's a term for that that I should know, but alas, no.)

Also, heiti is an Icelandic word which roughly translates to "named" or "called" (but sans past tense) Eg heiti Carnelionne would translate to I am named/called Carnelionne.

Now, if translating heiti to name or call, you could get
"Name is key" or "Call is key"...

I know, I'm reaching.

Also - loving the work that have been done on Spectrin! (Although I sadly do think the yetis might be a stretch, too...)

Carnelionne | November 14, 16:47 CET

I've just emailed Sara form Spectrin posing as a LA based company in need of their 'services', I'll let you know if I get anything back.

Edit: @AlexfromPR has just told us there's a (Rossum?) branch called Heiti

[ edited by property of Mr Gordo on 2009-11-15 23:54 ]

property of Mr Gordo | November 14, 17:00 CET

http://alexandradawson.wordpress.com/

This is @AlexfromPR's site, and two things struck me:
a) does Cifer Tek RIP mean anything? (see her pic to work)
b) In the blog Central Park Huntin', she meets a lovely man named Mateo... I really want him to be a doll...

edit: I know I'm really slow in the uptake, but the pic of Alex on her site and the person in the ditch the tech snippet is of the same person, right? (She even sounds Canadian to my foreign ears.)

[ edited by Carnelionne on 2009-11-14 17:23 ]

Carnelionne | November 14, 17:17 CET

@AlexFromPR mentioned a cab driver with a Nordic accent. Seems like Norse might be the right track? *again with the shruggage*

Xantastic1316 | November 14, 17:24 CET

@AlexFromPR also said she would be updating her blog today, to post about all the 'strange questions' people have been asking her on twitter... Hopefully this mean more clues to the whole Heiti thing.

Has anyone got a reply from Spectrin/Sara K yet?

property of Mr Gordo | November 14, 18:30 CET

I emailed sarak, saying I wanted to hire their company, but have not received a response yet. Also asked for the tips sheet, so we will see if it goes anywhere.

Deanna_Lynne | November 14, 18:54 CET

Coming late to the game, but abso-freakin-lutly lovin'
it... Ummm, has anyone noticed the "Spectres" in some of the photos on the case files at Spectrin?

1847: CASE 23H02. CLOSED. [train] - there's someone standing on the catwalk thing above the train, plus there's like a distorted area of the mist/steam/fog to the right of the train.

1983: CASE 6612D-2; CLOSED. [street] - the ghostly figure in the middle of the street.

It wasn't until I was going over the photos a second time, that I noticed most of that... including the guy in the hospital photo with the scars/hole/growth on his lowerback

Yeah... I'm just grasping at straws...

Avarice | November 15, 01:26 CET

We all are, Avarice, we all are.

Xantastic1316 | November 15, 01:38 CET

I can't get ditchthetech to work - I guess I don't have the right plugins in my browser?

sab39 | November 15, 01:41 CET

Um, did the ditchthetech peeps just get killed? Also, this is starting to feel like the Nine Inch Nails ARG for Year Zero.

The Goose | November 15, 02:09 CET

Eek, got ditchthetech.com to work, that doesn't sound good for that poor girl.

I think we need a hashtag to try to keep the discussions on this together on twitter so it's possible to follow what the hell is going on. I suggest #heiti - something tells me it's key...

sab39 | November 15, 05:25 CET

I just checked and the client login form is up now at Spectrin.com!

ithilien | November 15, 06:45 CET

@AlexFromPR has now updated her blog where she talks about 'crazy twitter people'

Edit: The client login at Spectrin.com is now open. Could Heiti be the password/the key?

[ edited by property of Mr Gordo on 2009-11-15 12:29 ]

property of Mr Gordo | November 15, 12:14 CET

If it's a client login... I was thinking maybe the login/password could be one of the case numbers OR maybe 69B 478 was the missing girl's case number (assuming she was a client) Does anyone know WHY 69B 478 was the correct login for wipethefuture?

property of Mr Gordo | November 15, 13:38 CET

property of Mr Gordo said:

Does anyone know WHY 69B 478 was the correct login for wipethefuture?

no idea, just something I've noticed:
69B 478
69 before 78
6+1=7
9-1=8

Kerstin | November 15, 16:01 CET

@property of Mr Gordo - the 69b and 478 codes were taken from information on twitter supplied by alex in the city. She was talking about bus routes and the codes were extracted from those clues. - Not by me. Much bigger brains did the heavy lifting with that one.

viewingfigures | November 15, 18:53 CET

Is there something else in the codings or something on the Spectrin web page? I wonder because of all the links specifying an online contact FORM, then leading to just an e-mail address. Or maybe I'm just too pedantic for my own good.

Coleberg | November 15, 19:04 CET

@Coleberg - so far we know that "Heiti" is key.

If you access the terms and conditions element of the Spectrin website, right at the bottom of the page, there is a client log in account feature. Although where the headline titles are there is also a small image of four blue squares (far right) and that will provide the same function. As to the new codes I don't know. Alex in The City has promised us some photographs tomorrow so I think there will be further clues then.

viewingfigures | November 15, 19:16 CET

Sorry, as Confucius never said, poor jargon come from mouth of imbecile. By codings I meant the setup of the web page, that's not the right term, source code? Wherever the thing about civilisation being destroyed in 2019 was found on the ditchthetech website. But in Spectrin.

I can't find the login on the terms and conditions page (found the one in the top bar), just curious if there's any clue in the extra link.

Coleberg | November 15, 19:50 CET

Someone at another message board found the login:

username: sarak
password: nomdeplume

Makes sense I guess, since "heiti" means something kind of like a nom de plume.

[ edited by ithilien on 2009-11-15 20:45 ]

ithilien | November 15, 20:42 CET

I can't seem to get to the Client Login page. I keep getting a message that says:

Secure Connection Failed
www.spectrin.com uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed.
Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)

Any ideas?

JenskiJen | November 15, 20:55 CET

wow! used the name and password ithilien indicated, and found Sarah's notes from an investigation in Akranes. No word on Heiti, but some interesting stuff about people seeming possessed, taking on other personalities, and tattooing themselves.

Check it out for yourselves, see what you think. This whole viral game is really heating up! :)

glorificus314 | November 15, 20:58 CET

You'll have to make an exception to your browser's security settings to accept a self-signed certificate from that site.

The One True b!X | November 15, 20:58 CET

@Glorificus "Heiti" is the name of the Arkanes branch office.

Looks like someone had a return call from Spectrum and received the following message.

"Thank you for calling Spectrin LLC. Your call was important to us. All of our agents will be busy, please stay on the line. Due to heavier than expected call volumes, your call will be answered last Tuesday at 10:54AM."

viewingfigures | November 15, 21:07 CET

@viewingfigures Where was there a contact number for Spectrin?

Also this whole thing creepifying yet extremely entertaining!

property of Mr Gordo | November 15, 21:21 CET

@Property of Mr Gordo If you look at the bottom of the Spectrin site you will see "terms and conditions" click on that and you will be lead to an area where the phone number is listed.

viewingfigures | November 15, 21:29 CET

Am I getting a different terms and conditions page? There's no e-mail link or phone number on http://spectrin.com/terms.html as I see it.

Coleberg | November 15, 21:57 CET

@Coleberg and Property of - Doh. My bad. I thought that was where I had seen it - I think I have been going slightly mad following all the links. The best I can offer is that I must have seen the number on one of the many messages going back and forth on twitter. Don't know where. Sorry.

viewingfigures | November 15, 22:02 CET

I'm not seeing a phone number, either.

Deanna_Lynne | November 15, 22:03 CET

What's really blowing my mind is that if you look on the Wayback Machine at archive.org, the Spectrin website really does seem to have existed, more or less in its current form, since 2004 or 2005. Either someone went to a lot of trouble to get this company to look older, or this project has been in the works for a strangely long time. I'm a little freaked out.

ithilien | November 15, 22:45 CET

Whoa. How amazing is this!

Alex in the City has had a couple of replies to her last blog which bear checking out.

The company that set up The Spectrin account on the Wayback Machine quoted in the post by ithilien leads to yet another website and yet another telephone number. (I'm on that page as I type this - don't want to be at fault again for any errant number searches.)

viewingfigures | November 15, 23:11 CET

ithilien That's so weird!!! The confusion is hurting my head... Wonder what comes next.

Edit: Also for those who were looking for the (seemingly non-existant) online contact form... There used to be one on there back in 2004 (again with the freaky-ness) though I doubt it would work now.

[ edited by property of Mr Gordo on 2009-11-15 23:53 ]

property of Mr Gordo | November 15, 23:21 CET

Tried the online contact form from 2004 and it brought me to a page that said it wasn't archived. the other website isn't coming up for me. i assume b/c I don't have flash 5. Anyone have that number to call?

Deanna_Lynne | November 16, 00:26 CET

Has anyone else tried emailing Rossum yet? I tried the 'contact' number, but haven't tried PR yet.

cinnamon_clover | November 16, 02:01 CET

@cinnamon_clover: Yeah, I emailed Rossum yesterday, but I haven't heard anything back yet.

Deanna_Lynne | November 16, 04:51 CET

So yesterday I emailed Sara at Spectrin the following:

To: sarak.spectrin@gmail.com
Subject: Staves

Hello Ms Kingsley,

Please provide information regarding which staves to use against possession. Thank you.

Today she responded to me:

Hello, Ilion!

Thank you for contacting me, though I am quite a bit baffled as to why. Your subject line is Staves...I find it odd, since 'staves' are Icelandic runes that can be used for all manner of things. The stave that you're inquiring about can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aegishjalmr.svg
Being as I have only just returned from an investigation in Iceland that involved both staves and botany, it's troubling. I've been recieving a ton of email alluding to Iceland over the past few days, and as I have only just returned to my computer, you can understand why I am a bit overwhelmed. I am currently organizing and uploading the notes from my trip. Since I have over 6 days of diary entries and research to sort through, this shall take me a while. If you have further information regarding the Aegishjalmr, please get in touch!
Sara
................................
Sara Kingsley
Emeritus Investigator
email: sarak@spectrin.com
General: www.spectrin.com
Clients: www.spectrin.com/client_login.html

ilion | November 16, 06:34 CET

Wipethefuture.com now just has a black screen with the words: POWER MATTERS.

Deanna_Lynne | November 16, 07:58 CET

@ ilion how interesting!

not specifically related to the ARG, but my Dad brought me back a necklace with an Aegishjalmr pendant when he traveled to Iceland last year. I thought it looked like a snowflake, but my Dad (also a Whedon fan) explained it meant protection from demons and evil forces. Cool that it'a now a clue in the Whedonverse! :) Gave me a new reason to wear it!

glorificus314 | November 16, 17:59 CET

Odd.

@AlexfromPR has just posted on twitter that Rossum's new tv spot is on this week

viewingfigures | November 16, 19:16 CET

viewingfigures I have a feeling these 'TV spots' will show up here in the land of web sometime soon.

Also coincidently @SENDanielPerrin also tweeted about (his dislike of) Rossum adverts a few days ago.

property of Mr Gordo | November 16, 19:43 CET

@property of Mr Gordo - have you tried the link suggested by ilithien above at archive.org , regarding the Wayback Machine?

I tried to recreate the link but failed but it was posted yesterday at 22:45

The clue I found there by one of the dates highlighted by an asterisk took me to another website and that was when my brain melted.

viewingfigures | November 16, 20:38 CET

@viewingfigures What was the other website that you found?

glorificus314 | November 16, 20:51 CET

@glorificus314 - the website is called arachnocraft it is amazing.

Remember how excited everyone got over the Rossum website and now Alex in the City is chock full of info. Well...

How do I know it's connected? Look who some of their clients are. Also look for Julie & Friends. And look who she has performed with..

Let me know how you get on. I'm still a quivering wreck.

viewingfigures | November 16, 21:30 CET

@viewingfigures I think that might be a legit media company. I'm really not seeing anything there.

ilion | November 16, 21:53 CET

@ ilion - it was the way I found the website that made me suspicious. Also go to the "about" and then "experience" part of their webite and look at their client list. There should be a very familiar name.

If I am just fumbling about in the dark it seems like a bizarre co-incidence. Plus I do think the figures on the mobile phone packaging look familiarish.

I also tried emailing the company but I'm outside the U.S. and when I emailed earlier in the game I didn't get a response. There is a phone number for within the States.

[ edited by viewingfigures on 2009-11-16 22:17 ]

viewingfigures | November 16, 22:13 CET

@viewingfigures Woah! I can easily see how you'd be overwhelmed! Already a few suspicious clients, can it be possible all of these companies were constructed for and relate to the Dollhouse? Crazy!

Do you think Arachnocraft is the company where Alex in the City works?

Jeez, not only is this site huge, it looks really legit! I keep thinking I'm being played, that this company is real, and has nothing to do with the show... and then I find stuff like this:

Hidden (highlight to read):
if you look at the photgraphy section, alex in the city's "uptown" photograph is there, and I seriously got a chill when I saw the picture of a junkyard-version imprint chair.

@illion, that was my first impression too, but once you do some digging, a lot of the wording and such seem very connected to the ARG. Creepy stuff!

@viewingfigures I'll keep sorting through all this, and let you know what I find!

glorificus314 | November 16, 22:34 CET

@viewingfigures I went through the Julie and Friends website, and looked through the people she performed with. I didn't see anything unusual, though. What were you referring to?

glorificus314 | November 16, 22:47 CET

I couldn't even find the familiar name in the clients list.

ETA: And the photo there, while similar, is not the same one as Alex' "Uptown"-photo.

[ edited by wiesengrund on 2009-11-16 23:00 ]

wiesengrund | November 16, 22:58 CET

@glorificous - um, this is going to sound weird and I think my brain is being messed with. First off there was a link to Spectrin within the client list that has vanished. And the wording on the Julie & Friends website has been updated since last I looked. Although did you still catch one of the names of the performers?

However I also tried that old link I refered to previously in a message by ithilien and it still led me back to a page of Wayback Machine. it lead me to a page of dates when internet activity was recorded - one of the dates lead me to the spectrin contact page and next to the terms and conditions it said the name of the internet designer - arachnocraft - previously when I clicked that link it took me directly to the site - now that link is not allowing me access.

viewingfigures | November 16, 23:04 CET

@wisengrund If you look here, there should be a familiar name on the right side of the page. http://www.arachnocraft.com/branding.php

glorificus314 | November 16, 23:04 CET

@viewingfigures, I found the Spectrin logo on it's branding page, on the right, but that was it. (see the link I left above to @wisengrund) There was also some wording that seemed pointed throughout the site.

I'm still not sure who you were referring to on the Julie and Friends site, though I'm completely sure she's not real - wikipedia had never heard of her, lol.

Did you see that imprint chair I mentioned, though? Seriously, that freaked me out.

glorificus314 | November 16, 23:09 CET

@glorificus314 - on the subject of that spectrin logo - try to find it again. I couldn't. Also on the Julie & Friends website Jewel is namechecked.

I feel like someone is trying to freak me out.

[ edited by viewingfigures on 2009-11-16 23:17 ]

viewingfigures | November 16, 23:18 CET

@viewingfigures - i definitley think i'm missing something, lol.

what does Jewel (as in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_(singer) have to do with Dollhouse?

Hah! you're right! It's gone now! It was there an hour ago! This is crazy!

[ edited by glorificus314 on 2009-11-16 23:28 ]

glorificus314 | November 16, 23:29 CET

I just left a voice mail at Arachnocraft (which is definitley a cell phone, by the way - I have the exact same voice mail) asking for more information about their services, past clients and photography.

glorificus314 | November 16, 23:37 CET

@glorificus314 - I just thought Jewel was connected to the whedonverse rather then just the show. And earlier it didn't list the musicians as having played on the cd, it said that list of artists were on the cd.
posted by viewingfigures - November 16, 23:33 CET

[ edited by Simon on 2009-11-17 11:23 ]

viewingfigures | November 16, 23:37 CET

I do believe arachnocraft isn't part of the ARG portion of the game - just for info. They're a legit company with legit clients so you might be barking up the wrong tree there.

gossi | November 16, 23:39 CET

On the Arachnocraft website, on the Meet & Greet page, the image in the banner looks just like a pic on @AlexfromPR's blog.
:O

Emzzie | November 17, 00:24 CET

yeah, gossi, i'm not sure why a legit company would have an extremely basic cell phone voice mail system for it's contact number. It didn't even say what the company was, just the phone number.

Also, the wipe chair in the "photographs" section seems pretty pointed.

glorificus314 | November 17, 02:35 CET

WipeTheFuture.com has changed again -- now it just says:

EVIL MULTIPLIES

ithilien | November 17, 04:16 CET

Rossum corp has an employee access, but when I click on it, it just says 'Disk full'. Anyone gotten any further?

cinnamon_clover | November 17, 04:39 CET

@cinnamon_clover

Yesterday on that same Rossum Website it gave an actual log in page and there was a place to enter username and password and an additional link to request a new password. Seems to now be reading Disk Full as you said.

viewingfigures | November 17, 10:46 CET

Hmm, been doing some digging, and looking into Dessy (creator of Arachnocraft).

I found this creepy link while googling Arachnocraft, a white page that just says in the header "move along." The site is: http://www.dessyt.com/ , and the google descrip. clearly links Dessy to Arachnocraft to the page.

Also, found on the UnFiction forums, someone dug deeper into Dessy's site, and found this: an interactive book of her work at Arachnocraft, including a specific page dedicated to Spectrin, with details. http://www.dessyt.com/book2.swf

glorificus314 | November 17, 10:50 CET

Wah. Wipe the future has changed again - it now has a login screen and needs a password.

viewingfigures | November 17, 16:03 CET

Anyone else think that @AlexfromPR's note from "Matt" has something to do with the username/password at WTF? (heehee) He signed it "#Matt", which strikes me as weird.

iluvmusicals | November 17, 21:27 CET

If no one has figured it out yet...

Username: #matt
Password: dendrobium

Sorry! The password should be lower case.

[ edited by Chrisham2 on 2009-11-17 22:20 ]

[ edited by Chrisham2 on 2009-11-17 22:29 ]

Chrisham2 | November 17, 22:20 CET

I've linked to this thread on the sidebar at the front page as to make it easier for people to find. So this might as well be the official ARG thread for the time being.

Simon | November 17, 22:25 CET

That username/password does not work for me.

The One True b!X | November 17, 22:27 CET

Oh, lower case on the password.

The One True b!X | November 17, 22:27 CET

So that username and password gets us . . .
1 quart witch hazel
1tbsp glycerin
1tbsp propylene glycol
1 pinch Rh--[the rest is crossed out]
[something crossed out--last word looks like "unknown"]

And at the bottom of the page, in letters so dark you can barely see them: sara. cuts on.

Any theories on what it means? I'm mystified . . . but at least the website is aptly named. WTF, indeed. :-)

erendis | November 18, 00:19 CET

Well, it's an anagram for Actors Anus.

The One True b!X | November 18, 00:27 CET

Some clever folk on twitter have worked out that list is what you would require for a tattoo, skin care properites and such, but have a look at the Rossum site, there is a new login there toothis game is blowing my mind it's so awesome.

viewingfigures | November 18, 00:27 CET

@The One True B!x. LMAO. Plus coughing fit, so, well done for that my son.

viewingfigures | November 18, 00:29 CET

I got nothing for the anagram :( And I'm so confused in all this, never even really understood where the dendronium came from...
Has someone figured out how to crack the Rossum login? I apologize if I ask about yesterday's news, but this is all a little mind-boggling for me. BUT crazy fun! Will we find out who's behind all this?

Carnelionne | November 18, 01:06 CET

I saw someone tweet to AlexFromPR. It just said "Dendrobium?" so I guessed that...

[ edited by Chrisham2 on 2009-11-18 01:22 ]

Chrisham2 | November 18, 01:22 CET

Hey Carnelionne - dendronium was Alex's fav flower from the bouquet Matt sent her. She specifically mentioned it on twitter (orchid). I haven't figured out how to crack the rossum login yet either....I think it must have something to do with the recipe on wipethefuture, just like the prior password-protected info on wipethefuture led to spectrin login. But I could be horribly mistaken.

cinnamon_clover | November 18, 01:25 CET

Is this the recipe used for the birthmarks?

wiesengrund | November 18, 01:48 CET

OK, I'm jumping in here. My thought on the new piece...
"Sara. cuts on. Someone stated that the list includes things that you need for a tattoo....so I wonder if Sara K is the one who is doing the tattooing. She does give the rune symbols on the spectrin website.
Just a thought...

WitchyGrrl | November 18, 20:55 CET

Someone on Twitter figured out the login info to Rossim. Here is the one they uncovered:
User name: koji.takahashi Password: 962 For some reason you have to enter it, be denied, ask to reset your password and then reenter all of the information to get in.
So interesting!

WitchyGrrl | November 18, 21:16 CET

I think the "cuts on." part does refer to Tuscon. After that appeared on WTF, many people asked her about Tuscon and now she says "i'm considering flying out tomorrow to investigate."

And I've forgotten how Spectrin has been involved in all of this. What has the site led us to (besides Sara)?

Frakking typos...

[ edited by Chrisham2 on 2009-11-18 22:00 ]

Chrisham2 | November 18, 22:02 CET

You can only access the Tokyo house with that login, but the info there is interesting/creepy.

E-Rawk | November 18, 22:51 CET

Possible anagram within the game. It may not be but suggestions in the meantime. Clue, if that's what it is was given minutes ago. So you decide.

two boots pizza rocks

viewingfigures | November 18, 22:53 CET

One of the pics on the Tokyo site has a room #, 59002. That is also the case # of the second open case on the spectrin site, from 1962.

E-Rawk | November 18, 23:07 CET

NO one's commenting here about the game but there is a new video on www.ditchthetech.com Scary stuff.

WitchyGrrl | November 21, 15:06 CET

Not sure if this has been brought up but some great Nancy Drew types at Unfiction figured out it's WhyIWatch behind the ARG, which can be seen here, here, and here. So, nice job to her.

JAYROCK | November 21, 16:59 CET

i can't log in at Spectrin anymore with user: sarak and password: nomdeplume ...does anyone know the new user/password?

riotgrrrljaz | November 21, 22:18 CET

I have a new login for wipethefuture.com
username: #matt
password: imtrulysorry

E-Rawk | November 24, 06:39 CET

The ARG has now ended, according to DitchTheTech. For those of you like myself, who want to catch up on what happened, you can follow it at the UnFiction forum. Many thanks to WhyIWatch and everyone who was behind the ARG and those who doggedly followed the clues!! It was great fun. :)

JenskiJen | December 01, 23:15 CET

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