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November 15 2009

Should Felicia be an Angel? One of Charlie's that is.

EW ponder who should play the Angels in the reboot and Felicia gets a mention.

I'm glad she's well-known enough to be considered, but I really dearly hope not.
Ooohhh she'd kick butt as an angel.
Lots of comments with people asking for SMG, Eliza and Summer also.
SMG would be great...but maybe Charlie's daughter...named Charlie...and she can take over as the voice.
But Felicia would be a better choice because she is an unexpected choice
Heck yeah! She may be considered too old (she's on 30!), but there's not enough of her. Plus, she's an amazing actress, far better than Eliza (and, in my opinion, if someone like Amy Acker had of fronted the series, it might have done better, but, alas, it wouldn't have been around without Eliza and her deal with FOX)!
I'd certainly watch it if one of the Whedonverse alum were in it, especially Felicia Day--otherwise, it doesn't much interest me.
Of course I'd love to see more Felicia, but I don't think this is the series I'd like to see her in.
the concept of Charlie's Angels kind of squicks me out, there's all of this misogynistic vibe happening, i mean one 'all knowing' man controlling these three women. yuck.
My first thought when I read about the remake was Summer, since it's Josh Friedman. What's with all the remakes anyway?
I think it's because the world's ending and therefore originality seems like a waste of effort. It's all explained in that new documentary, '2012'.

And yep, Summer's never going to be a bad choice. One of the commenters suggests Kristen Bell which is also a good idea. But then another says Summer is "too homely" so on average, you still shouldn't read comments on other sites on the internet.
So now they are rebooting reboots from just a few years ago?

Maybe felicia could make it better. a Felicia, Dushku, Geller team would make it better still, but I am sure that would never happen.
Maybe it's time for Emma to don the rollerskates again.
Ooh, rollerskates in conjunction with "Charlie's Angels" reboots made me think of Ellen Page. She'd never do it but she'd kick ass if she did.

Ha! This made me laugh.

Even without massively pandering they got a link (kinda).

(Harry Lennix could only play Bosley in a "reimagining" of the role though, too much substance to be the buffoon)
Someone sent us an email a wee while back saying Joss should remake Airwolf.
My inner 14 year old completely agrees.

(still one of the best TV theme tunes I reckon. That and 'Shoestring')
a Felicia, Dushku, Geller team would make it better still

I think that would be called Giles' Slayers. With guns. Hmm.
I think, the concept, in basic theory (with the little I know of it), could prove to make a decent hour of television. I think the name Charlie's Angels is a little to stigmatized, though.

How about "Joss' Angels: With a bit of Josh F. thrown in."?
That's it! Anthony Stewart Head as the voice of Charlie...although I think SMG should be Charlie just to mess with us.
Yeah, that's a change that could work well. "Charlie" is non-gender specific after all.
hrm, it honestly never caught my attention that the series could have been misogynistic Cazador. While the cutesy/simpering "good morning Charlie" was a little off putting, I always interpreted it from the perspective that it was the women who were always the ones doing anything. Actually going out there and being heroic and doing the detective work and/or crazy degree of role play being bounty hunters and whatever else they did on the show/movies...

Sort of like how in early Buffy even if Giles was sort of her patriarchal know-all, she was the actual Slayer with agency and what not. Plus as names go Charlie could serve both genders so if John Forsythe isn't up for at least a vocal cameo (that guy is 91?!) they could have the new Charlie be a woman. (I suppose even Barrymore herself depending on how much/little they want to tie this to the films?)

In any case, I'd actually be up for more women in action roles. Felicia is a brilliant suggestion since we're already aware of how versatile she is-- though I really don't remember how much slaying stuntwork she did on Buffy in hindsight.

I wonder how that'd work in terms of casting, if they want to stick to the classical three silhouette or if they'd want a bigger cast to not overwork the leads. There are so many Whedon-affiliated/adjunct actresses who could do with a a stable job where they'd get more exposure and show off their skills. It'd be great to not only keep Dichen in the country but maintain at least some ethnic minority presence on TV, Amy Acker is pretty much awesome all the time and it'd be sort of neat to see her as a major lead-- which she doesn't seem to be playing on Happytown, Summer nearly seems too obvious given how the Sarah Connor's guy is involved, Emma Caulfield would be great if they want at least one talented actress who can still pull off Farrah hair...

I absolutely agree that Kristen Bell would be great but if they want at least one token younger woman (which I'd prefer rather than populating it entirely with Gossip Girls-esque teen-ish agers) then maybe Michelle Tratchenberg even? I forget which of the NBC shows have been spared cancellation.

And this is totally off the point but maybe any of the women cast in Pushing Daisies ever? I actually just got really giddy over this idea but Gina Torres still plausibly kicks ass, Kristin Chenoweth marginally looks like Cameron Diaz and is hilarious regardless of the fact she might be a bit older, Anna Friel... well I just like her and know that she does accents really well.

I actually can totally see this show being something I'd love to watch, but I can just as easily see it ending up being an abomination (despite having some talent involved at the top) where they end up with three actresses chosen mostly since they have three different hair colors. (Which I will admit was a factor I was considering.)
Speaking of 'this made me laugh', from the comments:

Summer Glau is too stiff and frankly, too homely.

My inner 14 year old completely agrees.

(still one of the best TV theme tunes I reckon. That and 'Shoestring')


Uh...Saje? You talking about Simon's comment about someone suggesting Joss redo Bellasario's Airwolf or are you commenting on the Charlie's Angels theme? Cuz I tend to prefer Sylvester LeVay's score for the former over the 70s disco vibe of the latter ;)

[ edited by BlueEyedBrigadier on 2009-11-16 03:59 ]
A Jossian Airwolf would be right up there with a Jossian Wonder Woman for this child of the 80s!
orangewaxlion, I get what you're saying because I watched Charlie's Angels when I was young because I liked seeing girls solve cases, but I do have a vivid memory of an episode in which the Angels spent the first two minutes trying on bikinis because they thought the case was in Hawaii or something, but then that case got canceled and they went somewhere else. Yeah. It was pretty bad.

Summer Glau is too stiff and frankly, too homely.
WHAT?? That's it, I'm never going to read comments on other sites again. There are some really crazy people out there.
"Charlie's Angels" was pretty sexist but that's really not the same thing as misogynist IMO (which surely has to be more actively anti-women rather than implicitly for men - or not so implicitly in the case of e.g. trying on bikinis). And despite the eye candy aspect (and one/more of the Angel's often being a damsel in the episode) it still featured 3 women as heroes and they often did it alone (i.e. without male help). To me it was a necessary early step on the road towards Buffy and Xena in the same way that Mr Humphries (from Britcom "Are You Being Served ?") was towards 'Queer as Folk' or Michael C Hall's character on 'Six Feet Under'.

Summer Glau is too stiff and frankly, too homely.
WHAT?? That's it, I'm never going to read comments on other sites again. There are some really crazy people out there.


In the cold light of morning (OK, half-light but trust me, it's very morning) I wonder if that's a joke ? Joss kids on his 'Firefly' commentaries about how Summer, Morena and Gina are "homely gals". 'Stiff' might be another jokey comment I just don't remember. Don't get me wrong though, the internet is still full of fail.

You talking about Simon's comment about someone suggesting Joss redo Bellasario's Airwolf or are you commenting on the Charlie's Angels theme?

Whoa, 'Airwolf' had a theme tune too ??

;-)
I think Nathan Fillion would make an awesome Stringfellow Hawke in a Joss rebooted Airwolf series.
Unless they re-imagined it on a scale equal to BSG, I'd give this one a pass. The movies were mind-numbing fluff, IMO.


far better than Eliza (and, in my opinion, if someone like Amy Acker had of fronted the series, it might have done better, but, alas, it wouldn't have been around without Eliza and her deal with FOX)!
Frick | November 15, 20:42 CET


I personally could really do without the Eliza bashing, it's bad enough to have lost Dollhouse. And having read every comment on DH that didn't have a spoiler tag, I think you're in a distinct minority, thinking her acting was anything less than amazing. Especially considering the unprecedented demands of the role.
Just sayin'.
I've only seen the movies and a rerun on Nick at Nite at some point I think so I'm mostly looking at the underlying concept rather than whatever they've really done with it. (The movies were kind of fun fluff, a bit more ridiculous with the second one, so I can't imagine them trying to exactly replicate that.)

Plus given the years of solo heroines since the original TV iteration I just assumed they absolutely would have had to figure out how to balance selling their sex appeal and action sequences (or crime fighting and/or mystery solving. I never did exactly learn or remember the premise)
I really doubt it'll have the same vibe as the original or if it does it'll be tongue-in-cheek and self-aware in the way the rebooted movies were (or the first one anyway). Or like dodgy Angels semi-homage 'She Spies'. Either way, Josh Friedman earned enough credit from me through 'The Sarah Connor Chronicles' that i'm willing to extend any project he's involved with the benefit of the doubt.

(and they were private detectives BTW, one or all of them being ex-police who Charlie lured to the private sector by offering jobs that were more exciting than filing clerk which is apparently what most female police officers ended up doing back then)

I think Nathan Fillion would make an awesome Stringfellow Hawke in a Joss rebooted Airwolf series.

He already has experience playing a war veteran who was on the losing side (though not necessarily the wrong one), seems like a shoe-in. And I nominate Nick Frost as Dominic Santini.
Sarah would be perfect as the voice! Just call her Charlie and don't apologize for it. She literally has a great voice for that kind of role. I think the whole premise would set off fewer feminist alarms if Charlie was a woman. Plus, a voiceover role would be something she could do without giving up much time with her daughter (which I get the sense she'd find a value-add) and still leave her schedule open for other projects as well.

If I were casting the actual "angels", I'm gonna go with... Felicia Day, Alona Tal, and Shannon Woodward.
I think Nathan Fillion would make an awesome Stringfellow Hawke in a Joss rebooted Airwolf series.

He already has experience playing a war veteran who was on the losing side (though not necessarily the wrong one), seems like a shoe-in. And I nominate Nick Frost as Dominic Santini.


While made of awesome, Saje I get the distinct impression that if Joss ever had the idea and the ability to redo something like Airwolf, Stringfellow Hawke would get a sex change...or Caitlin O'Shannessy would play a bigger role sooner than she did in the original series ;D

Actually...not a bad thought, really. Studies have shown females would make better combat pilots due to a better centre of gravity and overall size to fit in aircraft cockpits. Plus, if the feminized Hawke was something like a Second Iraq War vet (not quite Vietnam, but enough potential stigma from certain quarters), the underlying tensions about fighting in a questionable war would still be applicable. Plus exploring the issues of being a female combat vet...

Getting back to topic, basically any of our favourite ladies of Whedonverse television could fit. Though I personally would like to see Summer do something like this, so she can do strong but not superhuman, cyborg or pleasantly warped :)
...if Joss ever had the idea and the ability to redo something like Airwolf, Stringfellow Hawke would get a sex change...or Caitlin O'Shannessy would play a bigger role sooner than she did in the original series ;D

Or how about Gina Torres as Dominique Santini ? ;)

(it probably would be the the 2003 invasion or if not that then black-ops with some massive betrayal by the government. Even the youngest Vietnam vet pilot would be mid to late 50s now which is never going to fly - ahem ;) - on US network TV)

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