December 01 2009
(SPOILER)
Five page preview of the Willow one shot comic.
The comic goes on sale December 23.
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Preview looks interesting.
Buffyfantic | December 01, 09:14 CET
Emelye | December 01, 09:25 CET
JTown | December 01, 09:49 CET
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quantumac | December 01, 11:11 CET
Brasilian Chaos Man | December 01, 11:30 CET
That's kinda doubtful considering this is set in the past (as in they're not broken up in the future) and we're about to see Willow's relationship with Saga Vasuki. Me personally, I'll go Willow/Kennedy over Willow/Scary Snake Lady any day.
Great preview and Kennedy had some amazing lines here.
Emmie | December 01, 11:42 CET
I've read a bit of Golden's work, but not "Dark Congress." I'll have to check it out.
JTown | December 01, 11:46 CET
Brasilian Chaos Man | December 01, 11:55 CET
I think it could be possible since Willow, in the issue three, said to Buffy that Kennedy and her were taking it slow and that the young slayer was in her bubble or something like that.
rua1412 | December 01, 12:30 CET
Also, Willow keeps denying as soon as the term "goddess" shows up. I think if not a goddess, Willow is something huger than she imagined--a force as we saw in Retreat. I'd also argue a force like the Slayer force. Maybe we'll also find out why she (presumably) cut off contact with her family or gets so upset when called "Ms. Rosenberg" as "her mother's name".
Very interesting stuff.
JessicaMelusine | December 01, 12:31 CET
Emmie | December 01, 12:39 CET
Riker | December 01, 12:43 CET
Emelye | December 01, 13:00 CET
Quantumac- what you said.
Dana5140 | December 01, 15:13 CET
DAMN O_o
Ashley | December 01, 16:40 CET
Riker | December 01, 17:27 CET
DaddyCatALSO | December 01, 17:39 CET
riotgrrrljaz | December 01, 17:47 CET
holeworld | December 01, 21:03 CET
I dig Moline's art and as always I'm loving Joss's dialogue. I'm also very intrigued to learn about Willow's relationship with Vasuki (that women gives me the creeps *shudders*) and wonder if we’ll get any surprise appearances by other characters?
I also love seeing the slayer organisation only a few months after Chosen and how close Willow was to it before departing.
I wish this issue was coming out earlier in the month!
vampmogs | December 01, 23:08 CET
Cue the usual complaints about art (so far I think it's better than Moline's "Time of Your Life" art, but he hasn't been the same in his Buffyverse work since Fray IMO. And I don't just mean that his style has changed/evolved, 'cause that's gonna happen with a lot of artists--I just don't think things look as tight as they used to in his work). Also, he does a quality Kennedy.
More statements from the writers (in this case Joss, and possibly for the first time in-book/in-show--I think previously it was Jane, Marti, and other writers in Seasons 5, 6, and possibly 7 that were doing "Hello! Gay now!" and "I'm a breast girl, myself" bits of dialogue) asserting that Will is all-the-way-gay. Unless that wheelchair-bound spirit guide's interpretation is off, but if it isn't, I suppose we would have seen a more mixed forest if Willow was bi. Not a complaint, just an observation. Cool with however they wanna paint it at this point.
Spirit guide ("Muffitt", according to Saga Vasuki ? Sounds more like a pet name, but that might be right) reminds me a little bit of Dandelion, from Sugarshock, in some of her randomness.
Maybe what some folks are finding disturbing/uncomfortable in the full-bodied Vasuki pic is the end of her tail and the implication of what she could do with it.
I see they've opted for the Mystique-from-X-Men-films-style of breasts (no nipples) to get away with a bit of nudity (though non-human) in an otherwise PG-feeling comic. Yay for semi-non-prudishness ! Now if only they would un-censor the few swear words--maybe in the hardcover collections ?
The Willow/Kennedy dialogue moved along smoothly, at a nice clip. I like Kennedy here, in all her just-mastered-monogamy, unapologetic honesty (heh, I know, some of that was just her teasing Willow).
This is kinda cheese, but after reading Kennedy's last line (and the last line of this preview), did the "Don't you/forget about me" song from the end of The Breakfast Club cue up in anyone else's head ? Even the lighting in the Willow/Kennedy scene in the comic seems to match the lighting at the end of that film.
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Kris | December 02, 00:53 CET
I think this is our Willow/Kennedy version of “Willow Lovers Speak” which she develops every time she has a new partner. Willow sounds distinctively different in how she talks to Oz, Tara and Kennedy. With Oz it was a lot of cutesy words, with Tara it was a lot of “baby” this and “baby” that and with Kennedy it seems like a mix of nicknames and cuteness.
Before Tara I would have never pictured Willow speaking like she does in that relationship and now her voice has changed again. It’s an interesting phenomenon, I hate it because I find Willow really tacky when she does it lol, but I wonder why the writers do it?
vampmogs | December 02, 01:33 CET
dispatch | December 02, 01:45 CET
Emmie | December 02, 01:56 CET
vampmogs | December 02, 02:20 CET
Ken-Doll is cheese, but I'll take it over "baby" too (not indicative of a preference for Kennedy over Tara). Not to harp on that aspect of Willow/Tara specifically, but in real life and fiction in general, I'll never understand the use of "baby" as a term of endearment said by one adult to another. I know it's super-common, but still--it's sexy/cute/appropriate to liken your lover or spouse to an infant/underaged ?
For whatever reason I excuse it a little more when sung (Bon Jovi comes to mind as one popular artist who uses it a lot--but thousands of others do too), but even then if I stop and think about it...blech.
Kris | December 02, 02:23 CET
How does that make anyone feel sexy? :O
vampmogs | December 02, 02:29 CET
And yeah I'm finding Ken-doll and 'Willpower'(come on who would ever think of that as a nickname) a bit barfsome too.
I'm trying to get over the artwork, really I am. But when the characters change so much from panel to panel I really do wonder if they shouldn't get some more consistent art going. I guess the pace is taking its toll.
Also is anyone else having problems with the cover art? I mean don't get me wrong, I like naked ladies as much as the next queer gal but what the frig is going on with Willow's neck??.
On another gay note I also find Willow's reaction to the 'dyke' thing a bit weird, can'treally put my finger on why, I think I just presumed Muffit way also a dyke and therefore less with the judgemental. I think I just like to assume everyone's gay until proven otherwise. I get disappointed a lot.
In conclusion to this ramble, I've apparently become harder to please and more critical as the comics go on. Oops.
digupherbones | December 02, 02:29 CET
digupherbones | December 02, 02:36 CET
hopitopia | December 02, 04:24 CET
digup[herbones: "mo"= homo= homosexual...
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Dana5140 | December 02, 04:43 CET
zeitgeist | December 02, 06:12 CET
Pointy | December 02, 06:27 CET
That said, I'm in the camp of "anything but 'baby'". My enjoyment of Dirty Dancing is forever marred by that ridiculously campy line. Granted it was her nickname, but still...
I'm okay with "Ken-doll" or "Will-power", just because they are such obvious plays on the characters' names.
wenxina | December 02, 08:26 CET
It's interesting that I like Kennedy's brand of wit here, since most of her dialogue in s7 grated on me. Then again, I most liked her in "Chosen" and that was also Whedon-penned. I do wonder where things with Saga Vasuki will go and how much it will tie into No Future For You. I most liked Karl Moline's style in Fray, but I don't hate the look of this one-shot. Jentry's work on the regular series is great for consistency, but I like seeing another artist's take on the characters ever so often (even if the characters do look different panel to panel).
Is it just me or does Saga Vasuki seem more like the kind of character one might expect from Angel the series rather than Buffy? There have been some pretty powerful people/demons in the Buffyverse, but Angel and his gang encountered a lot of larger than life characters.
CrazyKidBen | December 02, 09:45 CET
And as to Kennedy and monogamy, well, I can imagine she was quite the flutterbee before, and that being with Willow has taught her a lot about how to "do" relationships.
As to foreshadowing an implosion, well, in my own limited experience (one serious relationship starting at age 30 and ending at 46) it strikes me that the reasons for eventual breakups are usually there at the start, they don't usually come out of nowhere at the end of however many good years happen.
Saga Vasuki, well, BtVS had Beljoxa's Eye and the like. Stressing again that it and Angel share a universe, however different the stories got.
DaddyCatALSO | December 02, 17:14 CET
Suzie | December 02, 18:22 CET
It is good to see more of a presence in fiction of folks using wheelchairs recently. Artie is a main character on Glee (I know the actor can walk though), but I can't recall seeing any main characters in popular TV shows who consistently required use of one (there must have been some shows in the past, no?).
Kris | December 03, 00:16 CET
Suzie | December 03, 08:14 CET
CrazyKidBen | December 07, 11:09 CET