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December 05
2009
Dollhouse (alternative) opening credits for season 2.
This is a fan work, but that's how I think the opening should look like (I mean Dollhouse is clearly an ensemble show).
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(But could the names not match the pics? That was a bit confusing to start)
Coleberg | December 05, 15:29 CET
brad_schl | December 05, 15:30 CET
I don't think the act applies to fan videos.
Simon | December 05, 15:30 CET
ETA: When just considering the wording of that cited law.
[ edited by the Groosalugg on 2009-12-06 00:49 ]
the Groosalugg | December 05, 15:46 CET
Simon | December 05, 15:55 CET
Every time the actual credits come on I cringe. I realize it is explaining the premise through Echo but it just comes off once again as "The Eliza Dushku show!"
The show is an ensemble now full of of some great characters and incredibly talented actors. Put them in the credits.
Rhodey | December 05, 16:11 CET
Agree with brad that it would've been nice to see the names cue up with the actors as you see them but still, awesome job :)
miVi3k | December 05, 16:26 CET
Septimus | December 05, 16:27 CET
impalergeneral | December 05, 16:37 CET
impalergeneral, I agree. I took Joss' 50 second openings for granted. We got an entire song for Buffy, Angel and Firefly. With Dollhouse, the epic is yet to come. It'd be awesome if the full version plays in the series finale.
[ edited by Jayme on 2009-12-06 02:43 ]
Jaymii | December 05, 17:39 CET
I think Eliza Dushku is doing a fine acting job on Dollhouse but she isn't, like the adverts/credits would seek to have us believe, carrying the show on her back or anything.
And let's face it, Dollhouse shares a night with Ghost Whisperer, which, let's admit it, is a better option for the audience that just wants to watch boobs.
ryy | December 05, 17:53 CET
ShanshuBugaboo | December 05, 18:48 CET
I mean c'mon! How fantastic does it look closing with all three?! :P
[ edited by Rhodey on 2009-12-06 03:54 ]
Rhodey | December 05, 18:54 CET
Would it be nice to see the others? Well yeah, but as long as the actors get the credit they deserve in the episodes themselves then the opening credits could be 30 seconds of grass growing for all I care.
Plus I think the credits fit the show. The different personalities that Dushku has played, it gets the point across, which it really wouldn't do if you just saw other people instead of other personalities.
Sometimes I wish that every show would go the LOST route and just flash the name of the show and be done with it.
TangoDH | December 05, 20:07 CET
[ edited by Madhatter on 2009-12-06 05:44 ]
Madhatter | December 05, 20:41 CET
I don't know, maybe because we have to sit through every time we watch the show.
For me TV intro's are what help give shows it's own identity and build a certain familiarity with it. I can't imagine Mad Men, BSG or FNL without their's. Same goes for Buffy, Angel and Firefly. They're part of the show.
Rhodey | December 05, 21:46 CET
Madhatter | December 05, 22:23 CET
robfearon | December 05, 22:35 CET
Sorry to disagree, but those credits would only appeal to fans (and not all fans) and they would be confusing to new viewers (and some old viewers). The actual season 2 credits give you a good idea of what the shows is about (and are much better).
Zoic_Fan | December 05, 22:47 CET
I don't think the actual credits give a good idea about what she show is about at all. That might apply to the first five episodes of Season 1, but since then, the show has, thankfully, become much more than just Eliza being a different person every week. There have even been some episodes that barely feature her (for example Belonging), not to mention that Echo certainly isn't this shows greatest strenght and the thing that people respond to the most. Yeah, I realize that she is supposed to be the main star, but why not also give (visual) credit to other people that surround her and help to make the show interesting and compelling?
Anuris | December 06, 08:46 CET
Zoic_Fan | December 06, 09:28 CET
They could have gone with the full cast in the credits – and I wouldn't have had a problem with that, but the direction they went is also perfectly valid. No matter how often the phrase "ensemble show" is trotted out, to the last episode, Eliza will never be just another actress in the cast. It was her deal with Fox - the show doesn't exist without her. She plays the main character. She's a producer on the show. All of the complaining about it after the fact just strikes me as ungracious, but you know... the ulcers are there for the making.
BringItOn5x5 | December 06, 09:48 CET
Also, there is so much concern about the people who are not familiar with the show when in reality those people don't give a damn about it (which was clearly shown by the shows low and declining ratings). I know that in general, casual viewers are important and to a great part determine whether a show is successful or not, but maybe it would be better if Dollhouse put more effort to please the people who are already watching it than those who aren't. Maybe that way the show wouldn't have lost more than half of its original viewers and even with a niche, but stable and loyal, audience could manage to continue. But this is part of a bigger problem that started with Fox initially interfering in the show and continued with many consecutive mistakes done in its promotion...
As for Eliza, I have nothing against her, on the contrary, she may not be the next Meryl Streep, but I like her, I'm greatly thankful to her for bringing Joss back to TV and I look forward to her future projects. She is the main character and producer and deserves to be acknowledged as that, but why shouldn't the other actors, who to many viewers are the main attraction of the show, be also acknowledged? What is ungracious about wanting their faces to at least glimpse in the main credits? Eliza can get the most space, be shown first and even get her producer credit but why shouldn't the other actors be thrown to the mix as well? Isn't THAT ungracious to THEM? After all, what would Dollhouse be without them...?
[ edited by Anuris on 2009-12-06 19:47 ]
Anuris | December 06, 10:43 CET
BringItOn5x5 | December 06, 12:01 CET
Truthfully, they could flash the word "Dollhouse" on the screen like SG:U and I'd actually be much happier. As much as I liked Buffy and Angel's openings, I always fast forwarded while watching because I didn't need to see the same thing 4 times in a row and I'm a marathon viewer.
Regarding the video itself, I agree with the criticism that it makes no sense to show the ensemble if you're not going to match up the names. It's a good fan effort, but if you're not a fan, you're confused. If your premise is "ensemble show", then explain who the ensemble is.
[ edited by azzers on 2009-12-06 21:08 ]
azzers | December 06, 12:03 CET
Bones' first season also had odd titles over the wrong faces as well, IIRC.
Jaymii | December 06, 15:33 CET
AngelDiva | December 06, 18:22 CET
WilliamTheB | December 06, 18:24 CET
Anna Pickard | December 06, 23:48 CET
I don't know, maybe because we have to sit through every time we watch the show.
Well you dont have to look at them every time, I know that I don't. Sometimes I even mute it because the "la la"-ing through the music really gets on my nerves.
I for one like it better when shows just do a quick simple flash of the title, as I tend to enjoy shows that like to flip through genres. . Having some depressing opening (Like Buffy's "The Body") and then having some upbeat or cutesy theme song seems off.
TangoDH | December 07, 00:04 CET
In addition I don't believe you can wish people get ill and suffer discomfort and then accuse them of being ungracious. If you disagree with someones opinion just say so don't attack them personally or the admins might have something to say about it.
silent knight | December 07, 18:03 CET
There's a time to let people know that what they're saying – or how they're saying it – is being taken as offensive. We've both done that now, so fair enough. I'd also suggest though that you can disagree with someone's opinion without invoking the threat of admin action. Sometimes when we disagree strongly enough, we tend to lean into it a little heavier, no?
BringItOn5x5 | December 07, 22:58 CET