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October 30 2003

Overnights for "Life of the Party". According to Mediaweek, Angel got 4.1/6 and The O.C. 6.5/9.

So if we go with the overnights based on figures obtained from MediaWeek:

Conviction 4.4/7, Just Rewards 4.7/7, Unleashed 4.2/6, Hellbound 4.4/6, Life of the Party 4.1/6.

It's still really too early to tell where the ratings will end up though Zap2it says The O.C.'s overnights were on par with what it was getting during the less competitive summer months.

If this holds as the average throughout the season, the question is whether this is enough ratings for everybody?
This looks like pretty good news for Angel. The OC didn't hurt Angel that much, and hopefully the WB just wants to keep on beating UPN, because Angel is destroying Jake 2.0, and even gets higher ratings than Enterprise now.
Yeah... Angel didn't loose a lot of it's viewers to the OC as I had expected it to which is a good thang. I'm pretty sure the WB is happy with the ratings that Angel is getting.
I just got back from a board where somebody is actualy blaming it on Spike. Yes. According to them, it is because it is a post-Spike episode.
Meaning the ratings are GOOD because of Spike, or they are BAD because of Spike?

I'm an unabashed Spike fan, always have been. But I've also always been a fan of AtS, particularly last season. However, no matter what your feelings on the character of Spike, you have to admit that his addition to the cast has potentially brought in a lot of new viewers. I'm kind of a rarity, being a diehard Spike fan since Day One who also happens to have enjoyed the spin-off series. Most Spike fans (and a large portion of BtVS fans for that matter) just didn't tune into AtS. Angel's fanbase has consisted largely of fans exclusive to that series, with not much crossover appeal between the two networks (oddly enough).

Spike may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he brings with him a ton of new blood... in theory at least.
Well, they just implied that since the last episode was Spike centric, people left. Apparently, nobody watches previews in the land where they live.

I can't wait untill somebody goes "the ratings are down because there was a Spike-centric episode 3 episodes ago!".
"the ratings are down because there was a Spike-centric episode 3 episodes ago!".

Well, it is a possibility you know. I nearly didn't watch last nights ep, cause I hated "Hellbound" so much. And yes... I did see the promo, but they are so misleading now a days.
'"the ratings are down because there was a Spike-centric episode 3 episodes ago!".

Well, it is a possibility you know.'

Ha! I should have bet money on this! You know, I honestly thought that people would have thought it was ridiculous to say, hypotheticaly, that an episode's ratings could be down because of a Spike one that happened 3 episodes ago and and somebody says "well, it is a possibility, you know."
Next they'll blame Spike for SARS, the fires in California, and the bad economy.

[ edited by NirvanaPunk on 2003-10-30 22:33 ]
Wow... someone's wounded tight. I was joking a little. And come to think about it... the fires in California is Spike's fault. Knowing him, he probably was smoking his cig and as usually with his lack of respect for people and nature, just threw it in a bush somewhere, hence the fires. See, and you folks wonder why I don't like the blond one
But, wait! How will we explain SARS? *g*
"And come to think about it... the fires in California is Spike's fault. Knowing him, he probably was smoking his cig and as usually with his lack of respect for people and nature, just threw it in a bush somewhere, hence the fires."

Well Harmony did burn a pile of Spike's things near a wooded area in Buffy Season 4...
The thing we should be most worried about is the 1.8 million less viewers from Smallville to Angel...Angel only kept 70% of the Smallville viewers...At least we know that a full season has been ordered, but unless ratings creep back up (which is entirely possible) this may very well be Angel's last hurrah...But we all faced this at the end of last season as well...
Yes, Simpleba, but Smallville's ratings went down as well this week.
Seventy-percent sounds pretty damn decent to me. What's with all the hand-wringing? The season has barely begun!

Honestly, we (Buffy fans) can be so obsessive at times...
"Honestly, we (Buffy fans) can be so obsessive at times..."

lol, that's why i love us.
"lol, that's why i love us. "

You love "us" too? I thought I was the only one. Yes damn it... I admit it. I luv the lot of you, even you retched Spike loving fools.
Well, Angel's ratings didn't suffer all that much, and this was the OC's first new ep so maybe it won't stay that strong. And Smallville getting a bit of a hit too.....overall not looking so bad for Angel.
Now if the WB's new shows tank they might look a little more favorably on old 'steadies'.

Oh and the 'It's Spike's fault' actually made me laugh out loud.....
It's pretty obvious ratings are not the most important reason that the WB is keeping Angel going. This is a prestige show for the network. It's also pretty obvious they want more ME product too. I'm beginning to think most Whedonverse fans might have some self esteem issues.
For comparison, here you can see the overnights for the 4th season (and links to the other seasons). You can also compare average ratings this season (through Oct 19) of all shows.

[ edited by tolkhan on 2003-10-31 10:04 ]

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