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April 02 2010

Plea to Marvel Studios: Let Joss Whedon helm The Avengers! The Guardian's Ben Child states his reasoning behind vouching for Joss to get behind the camera for the much-anticipated superhero tentpole of 2012.

Reason 4) Joss + ensemble cast = magic
Everything I have seen from Joss' directing has been amazing, especially his first feature film Serenity. Let Joss direct!
Make it so. Not because I particularly specifically want to see an Avengers movie, but because I want to particularly specifically see a Joss Whedon movie with some high concept stuff in it.
Plus imagine what he could get out of Robert Downey Jnr and Chris Evans!
I want Joss to direct a movie with lots of money behind it that gets hyped and advertised the heck out of.

Also, it will be amazing.

But he needs something high profile.
Here's to hoping they'd take a chance on Joss.

Who was Jon Favreau before he directed Iron Man? Yes, I and a lot of you probably know that he wrote Swingers, but how much weight did that little movie like that carry with Hollywood producers? According to IMDB, the only thing he directed that I've even heard of, before Iron Man, was Elf. Someone took a big chance on him.

Or how about Christopher Nolan? Who was he before he directed Batman? Yes, a lot of us probably saw Memento and thought it was genius, but it was also a fairly small film, and very unconventional. (A story about a man with no memory that's told backwards?). Someone had to take a chance on him too.

Marvel, Vote Joss in 2010!
I would go NUTS if Joss got that gig!!! ***Crosses fingers***

(But I have to wonder, would it be "The Avengers" or would it be "The Wasp and some other super heroes"?)
Also means that Joss will be working for Disney again.
Joss + RDJ = *Thud*.
Not being into comic books, I know nothing about The Avengers and have very little interest in the film. So, from a completely personal standpoint, I would rather see Joss work on something that is original. If he did get the gig I am sure I would go and see it, but I wouldn't be as excited about it as something he had written. I doubt I would have any interest in seeing it if he was not directing, unless it got very good reviews.

Having said that, it would be great for him to get some mainstream recognition and get more opportunities to make the things he wants to make in the future. I'm sure if he managed to get a directing job like this a while back he would not have had so many film ideas that never made it to the big screen.
Also means that Joss will be working for Disney again.

Technically, the Marvel deal with Paramount still holds for "The Avengers." Marvel still operates as its own entity even though Disney owns it. I did read an IESB article that Disney is trying its hardest to undermine Paramount's deal to distribute Marvel's remaining films like "Thor" and "Captain America", even though they say that Paramount's deal with Marvel stands firm.
Spoil my fun :p. Has anyone here watched The Lion King II: Simba's Pride? What is Joss' song like?
Uhm, the writer of this seems to not realize that directing a movie doesn't mean re-writing the screenplay. Yes, bad directly can ruin a great script (Such as the buffy movie) but it doesn't really work the other way around, he wouldn't be writing the movie and I'm too big a fan of Joss to be content for him to spend at least a year working on something he hasn't written. If he wrote the script I'd be estatic for this, even though I'm not a big marvel/avengers fan.
Uhm, the writer of this seems to not realize that directing a movie doesn't mean re-writing the screenplay.


I'd hope that in Joss's case it does.

His roots are in script doctoring, and if he said "hey, this kind of sucks, can i rewrite all this crappy dialogue while still keeping the overall shape of the script", then I'd hope they'd let him do it. They'd be stupid not to.

Isn't that basically what he did for Speed? Kept the basic story, but totally gutted the dialogue and changed the way a lot of scenes happened? Since it's The Avengers, Marvel probably has a lot of plot points they need to hit that will be non-negotiable, because the story has to connect to the story in other movies. But within that framework, I'd hope they'd let him go hog wild.
I'm not worried about Joss not writing the script, Robert Downey Jr. improvised like half the dialogue in Iron Man (seriously, when promoting the film he told stories about how he'd crumple up the script pages in front of Favreau before they started filming for the day). As long as the basic plot structure is good, I'm sure Joss and the cast will play around with the dialogue, if not before filming then during filming. Plus, there will be plenty of time for Joss to tighten the script if he wants to. Thor is filming now and Captain America is still in the casting stage, it'll be a while before Avengers can start filming.

And I agree with those who mentioned the mainstream recognition this will give Joss. If you're not excited about The Avengers helmed by Joss, be excited for all the original stuff he'd have the freedom to do after he directed the Avengers. My hope would be he'd get into a Christopher Nolan-type pattern, alternating between super hero films and his own original material.
I would absolutely love to see this come to fruition. Joss needs to be recognized outside just the Whedonverse for how awesome and talented he is from time to time. I think dispatch has the right attitude on this, I'm sure if he was directing and he noticed some clunky grinding dialog he could do a couple precision strikes and make it more, umm, whats the word... shiny :)

Seriously they threw out his script for X-Men but the 1 thing they kept of his was the only enjoyable part of the film for me. (For those that don't know it's when Cyclops asks Wolverine if he is who he says he is to which Wolvie responds "you're a dick" and Cyclops is suddenly convinced)
I hadn't heard that information about Robert Downey Jr. in regards to the Iron Man scripts, but I can see it.

Marvel had Favreau write an Iron Man comic, and fan reaction was so bad that he quit in the middle of the project and vowed to never write comics again.
Marvel had Favreau write an Iron Man comic, and fan reaction was so bad that he quit in the middle of the project and vowed to never write comics again.


Favreau didn't write the film though; he directed. Downey did indeed improvise (wonderfully) but that doesn't necessarily mean the script was crap. I won't pretend to have a handle on everything a director brings to a movie but since Iron Man was such a smashing success--it was literally a pitch-perfect superhero film without anything even for a longtime comic reader like me to quibble about--I think Marvel would be smart to consider Favreau to helm Avengers, especially since Downey's Iron Man will be a major player in it. Joss doesn't seem enthusiastic about the idea of the Avengers from his online comments, he wouldn't get to write the script, and Favreau already has proven he can knock this kind of thing out of the park.
I was excited about this until I realized we aren't talking about Mr. Steed and Emma Peel. I'll go see any movie Joss directs, but feeling a bit let down. owell.
Favreau's already said he won't direct The Avengers (he will be an executive producer on it). If he wanted the job, I'm pretty sure they would've given it to him. Here are some quotes from Favreau about the Avengers:

They'll have to [find a different director], because I'm not going to be available," he explained. "It's something I'm being the executive producer on, so I'll definitely have input and a say."

"It's going to be hard, because I was so involved in creating the world of Iron Man and Iron Man is very much a tech-based hero, and then with 'Avengers' you're going to be introducing some supernatural aspects because of Thor," he continued. "How you mix the two of those works very well in the comic books, but it's going to take a lot of thoughtfulness to make that all work and not blow the reality that we've created."

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