April 08 2010
(SPOILER)
Bones 100th episode (directed by DB) airs in the US tonight.
Also, a Hollywood Reporter article here and a Wall Street Interview with Hart Hanson here.
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Wasn't Simon going to post something special about it, like he promised to with How I Met Your Mothers?
slayercommathe | April 08, 08:35 CET
Simon | April 08, 08:42 CET
slayercommathe | April 08, 08:45 CET
Pointy | April 08, 08:48 CET
Simon | April 08, 08:49 CET
I can't wait either. I'm spoiled but it'll be so different seeing it instead of reading about it.
And Pointy ... it is a shame that he's so good looking. The rest of the cast too. ;)
Simon, they also had a big party last night for the 100th airing. And there was a lot of coverage for that as well.
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resa | April 08, 08:53 CET
[ edited by Wyndam_ on 2010-04-08 18:14 ]
Wyndam_ | April 08, 09:13 CET
slayercommathe | April 08, 09:34 CET
Buffyfantic | April 08, 09:44 CET
resa | April 08, 10:42 CET
lmblack21 | April 08, 11:24 CET
Saje | April 08, 13:30 CET
Linnea1928 | April 08, 13:37 CET
zee | April 08, 14:15 CET
slayercommathe | April 08, 14:49 CET
Personally, I am totally OK with his good looks. :)
jcs | April 08, 16:09 CET
Wyndam_ | April 08, 18:13 CET
Oh ... and I loved the episode. Very sad though. I can't wait to see how it all plays out.
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resa | April 08, 18:25 CET
Sadly, Bones' response is very Bones. Booth's approach isn't so much Booth, except that we all knew he thought he loved her after his coma-- which may still have caused him to do that.
IF the writers do a Frasier, I will not be happy. This appears to be where they are headed. I do not want to wait until the end for this to be resolved. Why can't writers write better relationships? Joss, please advise David, thank you.
VeryVeryCrowded | April 08, 18:27 CET
Buffyfantic | April 08, 18:30 CET
I truly enjoyed this episode, was glad to see Eric Milligan back in saddle, pleased to find out what Angela was like when younger, and enjoyed the relationship aspect of the story, until it ended so sadly- but it ended the way it had to; Brennan remains so analytical in her approach to life, and when she said "I don't know how to change" i thought Booth was going to tell her "I'll help you." But he didn't; he accepted that (for now), and I am not certain him "moving on" will lead him to any greater happiness. Just more story options for the moment.
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Dana5140 | April 08, 18:47 CET
kefka | April 08, 18:54 CET
And when I ask Joss to advise David, I mean in a Wash/Zoe way. Joss is capable of writing relationships that feel comfortable, that seem comfortable, and that are satisfying. I understand he also has this problem with causing characters pain, but I don't know if this is his only means of writing relationships. I honestly don't think so. I think the deaths are not because Joss is incapable of writing good relationships, but because of other reasons. It just seems that killing the significant other is a good way to get to the severe pain that he wants to cause the other character. Probably pain that they deserve (or in Buffy's case, must have because of their position in life).
VeryVeryCrowded | April 08, 19:20 CET
IrrationaliTV | April 08, 20:16 CET
Arabchick | April 08, 20:19 CET
Harmalicious | April 08, 22:06 CET
"Psychosis" isn't right. She's possibly wrong (certainly in TV land she'll be wrong i'd imagine, in reality it might make more sense for her to know her own mind better than we - or Booth - do but in fiction I doubt the idea of an otherwise good person - i.e. not a villain - being so damaged they're incapable of being in love will be allowed to stand) but she's surely not psychotic, except maybe in a very broad "delusional" sense (and even that's, as I say, begging the question).
He will move on... she will finally come to terms with her feelings just as he finds someone else. I hope it's a bit less straight forward than that.
Me too. In fact, that might be a jump the shark moment for me (which has happened with maybe 2 or 3 shows ever). Strangely, where everyone else is waiting to see her come around i'm hoping that Hart Hanson has made the pretty brave and more or less unique decision (AFAIK anyway) of having a five year "will they/won't they" where the answer turns out to be "No, they won't". Unrequited loves that are eventually requited are ten a penny on TV, this has a chance to be something genuinely different (and just, frankly, when I thought 'Bones' had pretty much run out of steam).
The "Year One" characters were pretty entertaining though and it's always good to see Zach even if he does now seem to be a shoe-in for the "special" episodes (which feels a bit like a sop. Or maybe i'm just still bitter ;).
Saje | April 08, 22:24 CET
Shep | April 08, 23:31 CET
Watcher's Pet | April 09, 05:44 CET
Harmalicious | April 09, 06:17 CET
For those avoiding spoilers I thought I'd add this nice little bit about David.
And she shot him down because she doesn’t think she can do it, when we all know she can. That frustration is what will keep the audience coming back, to see how they overcome that – no matter long that takes.
On my second viewing, I noticed David Boreanaz fighting back some tears in the closing scene. Were you expecting that heaviness of emotion?
David was both directing himself and acting, so the whole thing was a surprise – even a little bit to him and Emily [Deschanel]. When they’re in the scene playing that moment, emotions come up that surprised them and certainly surprised us. I think it was very, very subtle – he didn’t really want to cry, and I don’t think he did. Something just popped up there for a minute, and he wipes his eye. I love how he kept it together even though his world had come apart. It was a nice balance he struck. We were thrilled with the job he did on that episode.
When Brennan asked if they could stay just friends, Booth seemed almost unable to agree. Could he get to a point where he simply can’t work alongside her?
It’s certainly possible. Booth wants to be that great guy who is not going to quit, and certainly not in the performance of his duty, so he feels he can really rise above it all. Whether he’s able to ultimately succeed in that is something we’ll be exploring.
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resa | April 09, 06:39 CET
Simon | April 09, 08:05 CET
I beg to differ, I'm all for it eventually being "yes they will" I don't think it's cliched or repetitive just because it's been done a lot before.
Of course Watcher's Pet, as I say, most people seem to prefer that idea, differing's super-cool, no begging required ;-). To me it is repetitive seeing the same resolution (almost) every time and because it happens (almost) every time I usually find the "will they/won't they" thing itself incredibly tedious. If you always know the outcome there's absolutely no dramatic tension there. Which is why the potential of, rather than just milking it still further, actually coming to a different conclusion than the usual "happy ending" seems interesting and fairly bold to me (particularly in a show which, fun as it is, is fairly conventional in most ways). From that quoted interview with the exec producer it doesn't seem like that's their intention though. Pity IMO but at least you lot'll be happy when they eventually get together ;).
Saje | April 09, 08:33 CET
My fondest wish is that Booth moves on and finds happiness and that they both come to terms with what has happened and manage to hold on to their unique relationship. What I don't want is for them to grow apart because of what happened last night. Their relationship is what keeps me watching the show. Their current relationship - not the potential of a romantic one.
missmuffet | April 09, 09:14 CET
Or maybe i'm just still bitter ;)
This. Except without the smiley. Grrr.
jcs | April 09, 09:44 CET
resa | April 09, 10:34 CET
This. Except without the smiley. Grrr.
Heh. There's maybe an element of grimace to it too jcs (still not 100% sure whether it's better or worse that they then basically retracted it in the show itself, not too many episodes later. Kinda makes me wish they'd thought it through better to start with).
My fondest wish is that Booth moves on and finds happiness and that they both come to terms with what has happened and manage to hold on to their unique relationship. What I don't want is for them to grow apart because of what happened last night. Their relationship is what keeps me watching the show. Their current relationship - not the potential of a romantic one.
Yep, this pretty much, that's well put missmuffet. The way she leans into him and takes his arm as they walk away made me think that could be on the cards.
But then I sometimes entertain the (probably unoriginal) pet theory that 'Bones' is partly about uniting modern America with Booth as the red states and Brennan as the blue. So if they don't get together it's tantamount to declaring civil war.
Saje | April 09, 10:39 CET
Harmalicious | April 09, 12:39 CET
with Booth as the red states and Brennan as the blue.
I don't know, Angela & Hodgins seem a little more typically "blue state" to me than Bones. Not many like her 'round here.
jcs | April 09, 12:42 CET
Harmalicious | April 09, 13:05 CET
He's a very familiar face to those of us in Philly.
IMForeman | April 09, 13:25 CET
Simon | April 09, 13:28 CET
I've always been a bit undecisive about the relationship of B&B. I love their friendship, but always felt that they were too different to properly work as a couple, yet I still resolved myself on the fact that they would get together in the end or at some point. This season changed it for me, because they finally properly acknowledged that Booth is in love with her and I adore the way DB plays unrequired love so that worked out great for me. But I still didn't really believe that Brennan was in love with him, so the end works really well for me. And because I'm a sucker for friendship turned romance (Angel/Cordy is my 'ship, is that okay to say?) I won't mind if they actually get together later, after a great journey for Brennan like Harmalicious said
Great job of DB on both directing and acting.
(edit) Forgot to say that the only problem with the flashbacks I had was the fact that Caroline was there. I love her, but I'm not sure that fits with The Man in the Morgue, I need to rewatch that with this episode in mind.
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Nocticola | April 09, 14:03 CET
I don't know, Angela & Hodgins seem a little more typically "blue state" to me than Bones. Not many like her 'round here.
Yeah, in reality, probably (as with House, in the real world very few - no ? - people are as hyper-rational as Bones) but she and he serve as the extremes of the thought experiment, in my dubious pet theory anyway ;). She's all head and evidence, he's all heart and faith (and she's generally much more liberal - in the non-US-political sense - than he is).
I like the worldview tension between Booth & Bones when it feels even-handed, but I get a little twitchy when they portray her as maladjusted compared to everyone else. You know, 'cause there are lots of things I like about her worldview. :)
Exactly. It wasn't that Zach left, it was the way the show judged him for being who he was. More and more as it's gone on it feels like Brennan is the abnormal screw-up who needs to be fixed and Booth is the voice of "normality". Now most people aren't much like Brennan IMO so most people will accept that as just being right, that there's more wrong with her than him. But personally I identify way more with her than him (don't, to be honest, even like him all that much - he's not really the kind of guy i'd get on that well with I don't think) so to me it feels kinda like the "cool kids" at school all over again (figuratively speaking anyway).
(though that said, one of the things I liked about this episode is the way it showed, by looking back, how everyone has been positively affected by their association with the others on the team - Brennan is more able to read intentions and has a better understanding of people, Booth cares a bit more about big 'T' truth and has more respect for evidence, Hodgins is less angry, Angela is more focused etc. Cam is, well, exactly the same. Because Cam has her shit well down ;)
Saje | April 09, 16:58 CET
One of the reasons I have been so undecisive about the relationship is the fact that their world views are so different and I haven't been sure how you can show them functioning as a couple despite that, but I have never really felt like it's about necessarily fixing Brennan because she's fundamentally wrong somehow, I mean, my world view is more like hers than Booth's, but I do think I relate to Booth more. I don't really know how to explain it. It's just a point of view I don't really understand.
About Zach, I never really had a problem with the way he was written out of the show. I think it's partially because I got spoiled for it before seeing any season 3 so I watched the whole season with that in mind and to me it fits. Why I think it fits, I'm not too sure, but to me it does and it's enough for me. I guess I thought it made sense that he had been so influenced by Hodgins' conspiracy theories that he believed Gormagon.
Nocticola | April 10, 01:00 CET